WDW's non-MK parks' identities fading?

[EPCOT Explorer]

Exactly!

Is it futuristic-just a little.

Does it fit-yes

EPCOT is to be futuristic,entertain and inform. EVERYTHING should entertain,but not everything needs to be futuristic AND Educational. As long as it serves the purpose somehow.

But then it clashes with the theme. Which is gratingly apparant, especially for a company like WDW and WDI that makes things work.

I would actually put cohesiveness of theme before educating, informing and entertaining.:shrug:

 

[WDW Vacationer]

But then it clashes with the theme. Which is gratingly apparant, especially for a company like WDW and WDI that makes things work.

I would actually put cohesiveness of theme before educating, informing and entertaining.:shrug:

Read the EPCOT Center dedication:

May EPCOT center entertain, inform, and inspire, and above all may it instill a new sense of belief and pride in man's ability to shape a world that offers hope to people everywhere.

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

Read the EPCOT Center dedication:

Yes, I know that, of all people!:lol: But to do that mindlessly? Just plunk down attractions that do those things without regard for what's around it? That won't work either.

That's what's so interesting about EPCOT. It's a VERY delicate balance.

 

[Figment632]

Yes, I know that, of all people!:lol: But to do that mindlessly? Just plunk down attractions that do those things without regard for what's around it? That won't work either.

That's what's so interesting about EPCOT. It's a VERY delicate balance.

Evan we are waisting our breath, if after all this they still don't get that Nemo Doesnt belong in FUTURE WORLD they never will!

 

[WDW Vacationer]

Yes, I know that, of all people!:lol: But to do that mindlessly? Just plunk down attractions that do those things without regard for what's around it? That won't work either.

That's what's so interesting about EPCOT. It's a VERY delicate balance.

Ok,so based off of your argument,JII does not fit into FW. Isn't that one of the most beloved attractions of yesteryear?

EPCOT has always and still does maintain a delicate balance.

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

Ok,so based off of your argument,JII does not fit into FW. Isn't that one of the most beloved attractions of yesteryear?

EPCOT has always and still does maintain a delicate balance.

The current one? Nope. I admit that it doesn't. There's no Future there either. Nor does TT, for that matter.

Now...JII of Yesteryear? Yes. To borrow the line from SSE, "it was inventing the future one step at a time"...but with imagination. See the science scenes. See the Imageworks. See the setting, a retro futursitic "Dream Port".


Nothing is exact, I give you that. Even the old JII is a loose fit....However, it still just seems like some current FW attractions were not even conceptualized for a futuristic setting. It feels tacked in, and randomly.

 

[WDW Vacationer]

The current one? Nope. I admit that it doesn't. There's no Future there either. Nor does TT, for that matter.

Now...JII of Yesteryear? Yes. To borrow the line from SSE, "it was inventing the future one step at a time"...but with imagination. See the science scenes. See the Imageworks. See the setting, a retro futursitic "Dream Port".


Nothing is exact, I give you that. Even the old JII is a loose fit....However, it still just seems like some current FW attractions were not even conceptualized for a futuristic setting. It feels tacked in, and randomly.

Does the seas seem tacked on-yes. But it fits just as well as the original Imagination.

What other attractions don't fit?

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

Does the seas seem tacked on-yes. But it fits just as well as the original Imagination.

What other attractions don't fit?

The Dreamfinder called....He is insulted.:lookaroun:lol:

I really don't see how TSwNaF fits like JII fits, thematically. On principles and ideals, yes, I do see that. But thematically? How? Really? A original and immersible and utterly fantastic visual and thoughtful experience versus a brief "adventure" through the Seas. (I will admit, it is good show) and some educational snippets. Explain, please, Tyler.:wave:


Not fitting? Only three...TT, JII, and of course, Nemo. (thematically speaking. They all entertain well. Inspire? Maybe. And educate...Well, depends on what you want to listen to.

 

[WDW Vacationer]

The Dreamfinder called....He is insulted.:lookaroun:lol:

I really don't see how TSwNaF fits like JII fits, thematically. On principles and ideals, yes, I do see that. But thematically? How? Really? A original and immersible and utterly fantastic visual and thoughtful experience versus a brief "adventure" through the Seas. (I will admit, it is good show) and some educational snippets. Explain, please, Tyler.:wave:


Not fitting? Only three...TT, JII, and of course, Nemo. (thematically speaking. They all entertain well. Inspire? Maybe. And educate...Well, depends on what you want to listen to.

The Seas is equally as immersible. The whole pavillion is based off 1 set of characters as is Imagination.

To the second part of your post,that is what I've been saying. As long as it does one of those things it is ok! Could some things be better backed up?-Yes. But they DO fit somehow and EPCOT has not lost its identity as it entertains,informs and inspires. Also it is meant to evolve,which it has done nad is a good thing.

 

[WDW Vacationer]

The Dreamfinder called....He is insulted.:lookaroun:lol:

I really don't see how TSwNaF fits like JII fits, thematically. On principles and ideals, yes, I do see that. But thematically? How? Really? A original and immersible and utterly fantastic visual and thoughtful experience versus a brief "adventure" through the Seas. (I will admit, it is good show) and some educational snippets. Explain, please, Tyler.:wave:


Not fitting? Only three...TT, JII, and of course, Nemo. (thematically speaking. They all entertain well. Inspire? Maybe. And educate...Well, depends on what you want to listen to.

Just want to make it clear that I do love the original,don't get me wrong.:lol:

 

[WDW Vacationer]

You will make a good lawyer!:lol:

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

The Seas is equally as immersible. The whole pavillion is based off 1 set of characters as is Imagination.

To the second part of your post,that is what I've been saying. As long as it does one of those things it is ok! Could some things be better backed up?-Yes. But they DO fit somehow and EPCOT has not lost its identity as it entertains,informs and inspires. Also it is meant to evolve,which it has done nad is a good thing.

I won't argue that the Seas are not Immersive . Immersible...That involves water, ironically enough.:lol: However, the illusion of being under water is gone, a shame. It would have helped.

As long as it does one of those things!?!? Nope. Not in my book. I look for something better than that. One thing is too easy. It's like cross referencing in research, or in a debate. Why not tie something together better and more thoroughly? That's what USED to be done, not only in EPCOT, but across the board of WDI and Walt Disney Productions. If we use that "one of those things" mentality, we could theoretically plop down a Storybook Castle in FW East as part of WoL , have Aurora talk to us about the importance of getting a nightly 8 hours of sleep. :lookaroun:lol: Fits the message of health...entertains...informs....but the theme?:shrug: Won't work. I see the same with Nemo.

 

[WDW Vacationer]

I won't argue that the Seas are not Immersive . Immersible...That involves water, ironically enough.:lol: However, the illusion of being under water is gone, a shame. It would have helped.

As long as it does one of those things!?!? Nope. Not in my book. I look for something better than that. One thing is too easy. It's like cross referencing in research, or in a debate. Why not tie something together better and more thoroughly? That's what USED to be done, not only in EPCOT, but across the board of WDI and Walt Disney Productions. If we use that "one of those things" mentality, we could theoretically plop down a Storybook Castle in FW East as part of WoL , have Aurora talk to us about the importance of getting a nightly 8 hours of sleep. :lookaroun:lol: Fits the message of health...entertains...informs....but the theme?:shrug: Won't work. I see the same with Nemo.

Have you been in the queue?

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

Just want to make it clear that I do love the original,don't get me wrong.:lol:

As do I. I like the current one too, but that's most likely because I am still overjoyed that Figment is back.:lookaroun:lol:

You will make a good lawyer!:lol:

Thank you....I certainly hope so.:wave:

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

Have you been in the queue?

:brick: Of course. Yes..THAT works. But the old TLS? Did you go into SeaBase?

That felt real.

Now, you go into the Pavilion, feel underwater, take a clammobile, and bang....Sun.:shrug:

That wasn't the point of my post, though.:lookaroun

 

[WDW Vacationer]

I enjoy it,but not as much.

I always ride it 4 times just so attendance will be up and it wont close.


I know,silly.:lol:

 

[WDW Vacationer]

:brick: Of course. Yes..THAT works. But the old TLS? Did you go into SeaBase?

That felt real.

Now, you go into the Pavilion, feel underwater, take a clammobile, and bang....Sun.:shrug:

That wasn't the point of my post, though.:lookaroun

Well,thre is not much I can say to that part. I think you are stretching to defend.

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

I enjoy it,but not as much.

I always ride it 4 times just so attendance will be up and it wont close.


I know,silly.:lol:

Yeah, nothing even borders on the scope of the original.

That's dedication. :lol: I think we average about two rides a trip.:shrug:

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

Well,thre is not much I can say to that part. I think you are stretching to defend.

:shrug:

I should have been clearer, I admit, but what am In stretching here? How can you stretch opinion?:lookaroun:lol:

 

[WDW Vacationer]

Yeah, nothing even borders on the scope of the original.

That's dedication. :lol: I think we average about two rides a trip.:shrug:

Like this trip-8 people times 4=32. I feel I've done my duty and have defended my buddy Figment.:lol: