WDW Laying off Cast Members

Duckberg

Active Member
to CLARIFY?

Another one of my leaders just got fired with at least 10 more I know of, and they're not done yet.

This is being called the Pearl Harbor of WDW ... they're just sweeping through and firing left and right.

disneydata, to clarify have the layoffs ended with the managers getting severence packages & layoffs continue on managers front & back of the house that get nothing? What about layoffs of non-manager CM's @ WDW? Duckberg :lookaroun
 

coasterphil

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I am not unsympathetic to those being laid off, I was once laid off myself back in 2001, but weren't these layoffs expected since the announcement in February?

1 - they offered buyouts to 600
2 - 50 accepted the buyouts, leaving 550....
3 - today's estimate is 450....

We don't know how many were let go in Anaheim, or do we?

Should more people have accepted the (more than likely) higher buyout package?

Sorry if I seem purely logical, but thats my nature - I do feel sorry for those who lost their jobs.

-Joe
The people being let go this week aren't executives that were offered a buyout. They are low/middle management and office staff that just a few weeks ago had been told the growing rumors of layoffs were ridiculous and there was nothing to worry about.
 

disneydata

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The managers currently being laid off were offered NO separation package. They are being paid one week of pay for every year with the company. They are technically going on a 60-day leave of absence with no guarantee of returning (none of them are likely to return).

I also found out sometimg interesting. The firing decisions were outsourced to an outside company. They silently started interviewing managers, area managers, etc and put together the list if those to be fired.
 

Duckberg

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outsourced Firing

The managers currently being laid off were offered NO separation package. They are being paid one week of pay for every year with the company. They are technically going on a 60-day leave of absence with no guarantee of returning (none of them are likely to return).

I also found out sometimg interesting. The firing decisions were outsourced to an outside company. They silently started interviewing managers, area managers, etc and put together the list if those to be fired.

Outsourced firing while not the NORM, does happen. It can reduce wrongful termination lawsuits, it also reduces the emotional barriers. WDW does not have to face the employee by having another group do the HATCHET work. Duckberg :lookaroun
 

spaceghost

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Well, I sympathize with those affected. I was laid off about 6 years ago. It was no fault of my own, I had excellent reviews, had been promoted, etc., but the company lost its biggest contract, which employed over half the staff there. Hundreds of people were laid off. Its just the way it was. As it so happens, it worked out for the best as I got the job I have now which has better pay, better hours, and is way more stable.

That said, if 450 people out of 62,000 were laid off, that is a drop in the bucket. Its less than 1% of the staff at WDW. I appreciate that to those affected, including their families, this is catastrophic, but in the current economic climate it had to be expected. I don't care what anyone says, people are not traveling or spending as much as they did in the recent past. Yes parks attendance may be up recently, but that is being driven by steep discounts and local visitors who are inclined to have shorter stays, stay off-site, not eat at the parks, etc., thus not spending as much as non-locals.

Were the right people let go? I don't know. Are there other things that could have been done to save money? Maybe. Maybe some of those things have already been done. The devil is in the details. But to imply that Disney is "wrong" because they laid people off just doesn't fly. Its what is happening right now. (And this specifically has nothing to do with the economy being run without regulation. More regulation would probably have prevented at least part of the situation we are in. However, now that we are here, businesses need to make real decisions on how they can see there way through things, and that was part of what is happening here.)
 

wdwmagic

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I've had some updates on the situation from some involved.

The layoffs at WDW so far have been in 2 groups. The first were layoffs as a result of positions being eliminated. These were in areas such as finance, research, scheduling and other back office areas. The layoffs in this category were done according to which roles were being eliminated, performance didnt really play a part.

The second group of layoffs (which are emerging today) are mainly front line managers in the parks. The areas involved are merchandise, food, operations, entertainment etc. The layoffs in these areas were performance based. They were managers who were rated as being poor by Human Resources over a number of years.

To address another point that raised in this thread, Disney HR are calling the shots on this. It isnt an outside company.
 

CBOMB

Active Member
I know people who survived th depression. Almost all of them learned to be more self-reliant and became stonger. And if that didn't complete their maturing, WWII did the rest. If people spent half the energy the do complaining (in good and bad times) preparing for economic downturns nobody would have every recession turn into a trauma. Plan ahead, plan ahead, plan ahead, especially in fat times because they never last.

So please stop going on about how incapable people are because if there is one thing we can learn from history is that people are stronger, more resourceful and capable than even they know. As long as they don't let the negative people drag them down.:brick:

~Befriend a WWII Vet, they could teach you a lot.........sonny~
Ask your friends who survived the depression if they would like to do it again. Some folks didn't survive the depression, their lives were ruined along with their families well being. Nothing like a good old World War to build strength, and character though.

It's hard to plan ahead during the fat times when Disney is paying your salary. There really isn't that much fat to put back from week to week. I have a feeling the folks now out of a job were not six figure executives.

I'm retired so I don't have to worry about loosing my job, but I sure do feel the suffering of others out there that face a very difficult road ahead. It's always heart warming to hear how people overcome adversity. It's especially heart warming when we are not that person.
110% correct and well stated.
The whining alot of folks do is also nausiating to me. During this particular "downturn" folks have had a whine fest. :snore: it gets old.
Your compassion is overwhelming.
 

jt04

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Ask your friends who survived the depression if they would like to do it again. Some folks didn't survive the depression, their lives were ruined along with their families well being. Nothing like a good old World War to build strength, and character though.

It's hard to plan ahead during the fat times when Disney is paying your salary. There really isn't that much fat to put back from week to week. I have a feeling the folks now out of a job were not six figure executives.

I'm retired so I don't have to worry about loosing my job, but I sure do feel the suffering of others out there that face a very difficult road ahead. It's always heart warming to hear how people overcome adversity. It's especially heart warming when we are not that person.

Your compassion is overwhelming.

Everybody feels for those who are suffering and are compassionate towards anyone going through tough times. (As I am now by the way!) I don't think you are special in that regard. What bothers me is people who are only negative in their outlook and make a bad situation worse. I've been in difficult times and the negativity of some people only made it worse, not better.

Your compassion is underwhelming.
 

smk

Well-Known Member
Ask your friends who survived the depression if they would like to do it again. Some folks didn't survive the depression, their lives were ruined along with their families well being. Nothing like a good old World War to build strength, and character though.

It's hard to plan ahead during the fat times when Disney is paying your salary. There really isn't that much fat to put back from week to week. I have a feeling the folks now out of a job were not six figure executives.

I'm retired so I don't have to worry about loosing my job, but I sure do feel the suffering of others out there that face a very difficult road ahead. It's always heart warming to hear how people overcome adversity. It's especially heart warming when we are not that person.

Your compassion is overwhelming.


Well said. Very well said.

To all those who know and love the people let go today, I feel your pain and want you to know that I am sorry you and your families are about to be tested in this manner. Be good to each other. Peace.
 

miles1

Active Member
First WELCOME Orange Bird,second GOOD post. Question, when do you think the layoffs will come down to CM's who serve under these managers & sub-managers etc. now being terminated???? Duckberg :cool:

No offense Duckberg, but I've just read through this entire thread and I believe this is the fifth time you have asked this question. I'm sure if anyone here knew the answer they would have responded.

I'm sure the CM's and relatives that are posting here are upset enough without having to speculate publicly about loosing their own jobs.

Just wait it out. Unfortunately for those involved, the answer will come soon enough.
 

Duckberg

Active Member
I've had some updates on the situation from some involved.

The layoffs at WDW so far have been in 2 groups. The first were layoffs as a result of positions being eliminated. These were in areas such as finance, research, scheduling and other back office areas. The layoffs in this category were done according to which roles were being eliminated, performance didnt really play a part.

The second group of layoffs (which are emerging today) are mainly front line managers in the parks. The areas involved are merchandise, food, operations, entertainment etc. The layoffs in these areas were performance based. They were managers who were rated as being poor by Human Resources over a number of years.

To address another point that raised in this thread, Disney HR are calling the shots on this. It isnt an outside company.

Thanks, your post provides a good clarification Duckberg :cool:
 

CBOMB

Active Member
Everybody feels for those who are suffering and are compassionate towards anyone going through tough times. (As I am now by the way!) I don't think you are special in that regard. What bothers me is people who are only negative in their outlook and make a bad situation worse. I've been in difficult times and the negativity of some people only made it worse, not better.

Your compassion is underwhelming.
I don't recall ever saying or implying I was special. Imagine being negative about folks losing their job.

While my compassion might seem Underwhelming to you, at least it's sincere.
 

TheBeatles

Well-Known Member
Disney historian Jim Korkis is no longer with the company as of yesterday.


If this is true..... :brick::brick::brick::brick::brick::brick:

I just met him a couple days ago and looked forward to visiting him at work.

It seems every person who has helped me out down here has been let go.

Great.
 

WDW1974

Well-Known Member
Ask your friends who survived the depression if they would like to do it again. Some folks didn't survive the depression, their lives were ruined along with their families well being. Nothing like a good old World War to build strength, and character though.

Well said. There are countless millions of people with great character who never had to go through severe adversity. The idea that we should all basically 'butch up' sounds well and good, but people are dying because of this situation ... everything from suicides to heart attacks to strokes increase in times of turmoil.

And I think any rational person would understand why it's best to test your mettle without going to hell and back.

It's hard to plan ahead during the fat times when Disney is paying your salary. There really isn't that much fat to put back from week to week. I have a feeling the folks now out of a job were not six figure executives.

That feeling is quite accurate. ... It's amusing when you can't get by on what you are making and you turn on CNN and see talking head experts tell you how you should have savings to cover everything for eight months and the necessities of life for three years.

I want what they're smoking.


I'm retired so I don't have to worry about loosing my job, but I sure do feel the suffering of others out there that face a very difficult road ahead. It's always heart warming to hear how people overcome adversity. It's especially heart warming when we are not that person.

Isn't it though? It's always great to judge what another individual should have to endure based upon someone else's standards.

Your compassion is overwhelming.

Compassion? There's a cost to that ...

~What Will YOU Celebrate? No credit!~
 

PlutoFan4Ever

New Member
I just have to say that what a sad time it is here. There have been so many tears shed, it's just not right. There are people who are just waiting for that call in to the office. Some have heard they are "safe for now". That just does not help in the long run...how long is for now?!?

I can't tell how many tears have been shed, drinks that have been drunk, frustrated screams that have happened. It is SCARY! Much love and best wishes to everyone. To my friends and others that have had the bad news..."This too shall pass and I am here for you all however I can be."

Sad week in the "World" and there are other departments to hear more next week.
 

SoccerMickey

Active Member
If this is true..... :brick::brick::brick::brick::brick::brick:

I just met him a couple days ago and looked forward to visiting him at work.

It seems every person who has helped me out down here has been let go.

Great.

I got the email from Arlen too. I've had the pleasure of meeting Jim several times. Even sharing a table with him for the night at the Adventurers Club one night. He has a great passion for Disney and knows EVERYTHING....but I never knew what he did for work at DIsney.
 

ecdlanddude

New Member
If this is true..... :brick::brick::brick::brick::brick::brick:

I just met him a couple days ago and looked forward to visiting him at work.

It seems every person who has helped me out down here has been let go.

Great.
I used to work with Jim. Unfortunately, I can confirm the news.
 

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