Wall-E movie is amazing

[PeoplemoverTTA]

My sister and I took our parents with free Movie Cash on Friday night...I must agree with the consensus here that it was just a masterpiece.

That darn robot is so lovable...it is amazing how the Pixar folks can put so much heart and personality into a robot that says about 3 words (if you count, "ta-da," although I may be missing a few :ROFLOL

Right from the bat my WDW nerdiness came out in the theater. When "Put on Your Sunday Clothes," from Hello Dolly! came on in the beginning, I immediately turned to my sister and whispered, "That's in the Main Street loop!"

While I was filming my sister's high school production of "Oklahoma" (she was the faculty advisor), I similarly recognized two songs from the loop . I suppose I owe that to my friends at Mousebits :sohappy:

Anyway, back to the subject at hand...I am looking forward to seeing the movie again and looking for the Pizza Planet truck. Neat find.

I thought "Ratatouille" was great...visually stunning, great characters and amusing story. I felt it was a great "artistic" achievement. Wall*E blew it out of the water...hands down my favorite of the Pixar films.

Oh, and I loved the short, too. At first I was a little unsure, but I really do trust the guys (although I still don't get the appeal of "Boundin'" my least favorite of the shorts), and it turned out to be a charmer.

Just a great night at the movies.

Now, I'm off to pre-order my tickets to "Beverly Hills Chihuahua"

 

[Nicole220]

Right from the bat my WDW nerdiness came out in the theater. When "Put on Your Sunday Clothes," from Hello Dolly@ came on in the beginning, I immediately turned to my sister and whispered, "That's in the Main Street loop!"

I recognized that too!


I saw it yesterday and absolutely loved it! I think it's my favorite Pixar film to date. Who would've thought a robot could be so loveable? Wall-E was just too darn cute! I found myself saying "Aww" more times than I ever have in a single movie. And yes, I also cried...but it doesn't take much to make me cry. :lol: I'll be seeing it again with my family this week, and I can't wait. Oh, and the short was also very cute! It's my favorite one.

 

[EpcotServo]

Ummm, you do know I said "Disney movie"...not "Warner Brothers publication". Not exactly the same thing.

Still.
:lol:

Anyhoo, uber-director Andrew Stanton explains it.


(Mild Spoilers, but adresses your concerns.)

Q:It is a wonderful love story. But at the same time, it seemed to have heavier social commentary than most Pixar films. It seemed like a story about fat, lazy, American consumers who don't care about the environment and …

Stanton: That's your interpretation, but that's not where I was coming from. I certainly see the parallels, but honestly, all those factors came from very different places. All my choices in the film came from what I needed to amplify the main point, which was the love story between these robots. The theme that I was trying to tap into was that irrational love defeats life's programming—that it takes a random act of loving kindness to kick us out of our routines and habit.

You could blame consumerism as one thing that's happening in this film, but there's a million other things we do that distract us from connecting to the person next to us and from furthering relationships, which is truly the point of living. So I came up with the idea that as WALL•E was picking up trash, it would have all these signs of humanity for him to rifle through, to get him interested in what humans were all about. I loved the idea of WALL•E finding something real. He was fascinated with the idea of living. And what's the point of living? Something real. He was a manmade object with something real inside him. And he found something real while surrounded by manmade objects. That just was poetic for me.


Q:OK, but why were the humans on the space station all fat and riding around in their hovering lounge chairs?

Stanton: I wasn't trying to make the humans into fat, lazy consumers, but to make humanity appear to be completely consumed by everything that can distract you—to the point where they lost connection with each other, even though they're right next to each other. The reason I made them look like big babies was because a NASA guy told me that they haven't yet simulated gravity perfectly for long-term residency in space. And if they don't get it just right, atrophy kicks in and you begin to lose your muscle tone—you just turn into a blob of goo. For a while, that's what I did with the humans in the movie; they were just big blobs of Jell-O. But it was so bizarre, we had to pull it back. So I said, well, let's just make them look like big babies. That's where all that came from.

I wasn't trying to make some sort of mean-spirited comment on consumerism or today's society. I was going with just the logic of what would happen if you were in a perpetual vacation with no real purpose in life. So I went with the idea that we'd become sort of big babies with no reason to grow up. I definitely saw humanity as victims of this system that they were in. They were just big babies that needed to stand on their own two feet.

The last thing I'm going to do is try to make a message movie!

:wave:

 

[hcswingfield]

Actually the impression I got was that he was doing that to help his girlfriend complete her objective so that she would be freed from her programming.:shrug:

Hmmmm...I guess I can see that. So it's a great love story instead of a save the world movie. It's still good, right?

 

[Hakunamatata]

Hmmmm...I guess I can see that. So it's a great love story instead of a save the world movie. It's still good, right?

Yes, I think it was more of a love story with a "sub story" to be popular with the current thought that humans actually have the ability to destroy the earth. Very easily could have been set on some other planet, an abandoned colony on Mars or something like that. I think the political statement was a little bit too much for me, but thats just me. Even without considering the political undertones, I think Nemo, Incredibles, and Rata were better movies.

 

[sissa216]

I'm not sure if anyone answered about the Pizza Planet truck, but I think I noticed Eve scanning it, right after the song "La vie an rose"

Also, towards the beginning, I noticed Rex from Toy Story (behind some bowling pins in Wall-E's 'house').

 

[Timmay]

Still.
:lol:

Still...what?

Anyhoo, uber-director Andrew Stanton explains it.

That helps me a little, and I may decide go see it (there are still some things that were told to me that are just flat out blatant political commentary). Although I do have trouble with Stanton's explanation of his intent of zero gravity and the results on the human body...if it was truly his intent, one might think he would taken the 15-20 seconds needed in the movie to make it clear (he may have, but from what I have heard, he didn't).

Just my opinion.

 

[k.hunter30]

I ablsolutely fell in love with this movie! What a wonderful love story! :sohappy:

Did anyone else wonder where the babies on the ship came from...:lookaroun...?

 

[k.hunter30]

Still...what?


That helps me a little, and I may decide go see it (there are still some things that were told to me that are just flat out blatant political commentary). Although I do have trouble with Stanton's explanation of his intent of zero gravity and the results on the human body...if it was truly his intent, one might think he would taken the 15-20 seconds needed in the movie to make it clear (he may have, but from what I have heard, he didn't).

Just my opinion.

I believe the movie did explain that--complete with diagrams of the deterioration/atrophy of the bones. And, as you said, it was only about 30 seconds.

 

[MousDad]

I perfectly respect other people liking other Pixar and/or Disney films better than Wall-E; but cinematically, this film raises the bar to a whole new level.

What elevates this film to the level of greatness that exceeds its Pixar brethren (see previous comments on Ratatouille) and most of the Disney canon, I define as follows: Intensely-deep, emotional power, in this case displayed in the connection between Wall-E and Eve, and how their connection plays out through the film.

I think this is consistent with Stanton's statements.

This has rarely been achieved in American cinema. Disney has achieved this a few times, but I think only to this degree with Bambi. Pulling this off explains why the grainy, old, silent, black and white "City Lights" consistently makes the top ten films of all time lists. Great film is about one thing - power. Wall-E has it.

You mix this with the deft handling of multiple, deep themes; animation that is mind-boggling in its detail, scope and beauty; just the right amount of clever humor; numerous conventional cinematographic tricks that have been pulled off ingeniously in animation; brilliant screenplay, direction, editing, sound, etc.; and you have WALL-E: Pixar's first true masterpiece, and one of only 3 or 4 in Disney history.

 

[CrashNet]

I'm not sure if anyone answered about the Pizza Planet truck, but I think I noticed Eve scanning it, right after the song "La vie an rose"

Also, towards the beginning, I noticed Rex from Toy Story (behind some bowling pins in Wall-E's 'house').

Help me here because I don't remember the song. Around what part is this? I'm trying to replay all of the times she scanned stuff.

 

[sissa216]

Help me here because I don't remember the song. Around what part is this? I'm trying to replay all of the times she scanned stuff.

The Louis Armstrong song? Do you remember when Eve goes to sleep and Wall-E makes a sculpture of her out of trash (with the two blue bulb eyes)? Shortly after that, I think.

It's pretty large; she has the hood open and scans it, then shuts it. Maybe 3-4 seconds I think.
Edit: Its not when she immediately arrives and is scanning things.
There is another sequence where she goes around scanning.

 

[ClemsonTigger]

I ablsolutely fell in love with this movie! What a wonderful love story! :sohappy:

Did anyone else wonder where the babies on the ship came from...:lookaroun...?

I thought of that immediately as well....but figured that's just me, so I'm glad someone "grounded" brought it up first. :lookaroun

Also wonder where incoming supplies come from.....they continue to make tons of trash that are just dumped. Who the heck is doing the shopping?

If these folks are barely able to walk in the ship's gravity....they would just roll out of the ship after it returned to earth....

....but the heck with all that...it was a special movie!

....now I just have to answer the question in another thread about the big compactors on the ship....WALL R (or A)....:veryconfu

 

[PeoplemoverTTA]

I perfectly respect other people liking other Pixar and/or Disney films better than Wall-E; but cinematically, this film raises the bar to a whole new level.

What elevates this film to the level of greatness that exceeds its Pixar brethren (see previous comments on Ratatouille) and most of the Disney canon, I define as follows: Intensely-deep, emotional power, in this case displayed in the connection between Wall-E and Eve, and how their connection plays out through the film.

I think this is consistent with Stanton's statements.

This has rarely been achieved in American cinema. Disney has achieved this a few times, but I think only to this degree with Bambi. Pulling this off explains why the grainy, old, silent, black and white "City Lights" consistently makes the top ten films of all time lists. Great film is about one thing - power. Wall-E has it.

You mix this with the deft handling of multiple, deep themes; animation that is mind-boggling in its detail, scope and beauty; just the right amount of clever humor; numerous conventional cinematographic tricks that have been pulled off ingeniously in animation; brilliant screenplay, direction, editing, sound, etc.; and you have WALL-E: Pixar's first true masterpiece, and one of only 3 or 4 in Disney history.

Very well put. I agree wholeheartedly

 

[Timmay]

I believe the movie did explain that--complete with diagrams of the deterioration/atrophy of the bones. And, as you said, it was only about 30 seconds.

Fair enough.

 

[haveyoumetmark]

I perfectly respect other people liking other Pixar and/or Disney films better than Wall-E; but cinematically, this film raises the bar to a whole new level.

What elevates this film to the level of greatness that exceeds its Pixar brethren (see previous comments on Ratatouille) and most of the Disney canon, I define as follows: Intensely-deep, emotional power, in this case displayed in the connection between Wall-E and Eve, and how their connection plays out through the film.

I think this is consistent with Stanton's statements.

This has rarely been achieved in American cinema. Disney has achieved this a few times, but I think only to this degree with Bambi. Pulling this off explains why the grainy, old, silent, black and white "City Lights" consistently makes the top ten films of all time lists. Great film is about one thing - power. Wall-E has it.

You mix this with the deft handling of multiple, deep themes; animation that is mind-boggling in its detail, scope and beauty; just the right amount of clever humor; numerous conventional cinematographic tricks that have been pulled off ingeniously in animation; brilliant screenplay, direction, editing, sound, etc.; and you have WALL-E: Pixar's first true masterpiece, and one of only 3 or 4 in Disney history.

I agree for the most part. The only place I think you went wrong is by mentioning that WALL•E is the first Pixar masterpiece. That, I think, is most definitely Toy Story.

I believe the movie did explain that--complete with diagrams of the deterioration/atrophy of the bones. And, as you said, it was only about 30 seconds.

For some reason, I thought that the movie did that for comical purposes. As if the reason the atrophy of the bones occurred was that the passengers were so sedentary and fat for an extended amount of time (say 700 years). At least that's how it looked to me and there was laughter during that part.


On a different note, maybe I'm going out on a limb here, but does anyone else have the idea that the people who strongly dislike WALL•E see themselves in those hoverchairs and are anti-global warming. Just a thought.... because I can see where the line of personal taste is crossed, and where people are straight-up offended by the movie because it differs from their views.

Okay, so maybe I wasn't going out on a limb, and I completely pointed out the obvious, but whatever. :lol:

 

[MousDad]

I agree for the most part. The only place I think you went wrong is by mentioning that WALL•E is the first Pixar masterpiece. That, I think, is most definitely Toy Story.

Point taken. Personally, I would use the term "groundbreaking achievement" for Toy Story, rather than masterpiece.

And let me also clarify, that I think all the Pixar films are masterpieces within the genre, and each contain that key element I was talking about to some degree. It's why they are so good.

However, I think Wall-E is the first animated film in a long time that you can start comparing to the great films of all time, not just the great animated films of all time. (I said comparing to, not necessarily equal to.)

Also, a note on the environmental/fat humans issue. Much of this (among fan circles) was stirred up by Jim Hill and Al Lutz's fearmongering. (Al actually calls the second half of the film "dark" - so not true. Dr. Strangelove is dark, Wall-E is not.) When you see the film, those issues are not foremost in your mind. The film is very far from preachy on those topics. And the tone, overall, is optimistic in relation to those issues. Sure, it adds to the depth of the story, but it is not overbearing.

In other words, I think you can appreciate the story without agreeing with the reality/possibility of the enviro message.

 

[wdwron08]

***** Stars for Wall-E

I saw Wall-E this past Saturday with my Girlfriend. We Loooved it . Wall-E was Tooo cute The Movie had very little speaking parts but made up for it in the Cuteness Department. ***** Stars for Wall-E:sohappy::sohappy::sohappy:

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

Seeing it today!:sohappy:

Can't wait!

 

[Wilt Dasney]

Ok I'm really really beginning to think I didnt see the same Wall e movie everyone else did...

I wasn't blown away by it either, but I'm not sure I gave it an entirely fair chance.

1.) I went after work Friday night, and got so sleepy during the first half that I could barely focus on the movie for trying to stay awake.

2.) Once I snapped out of that, my editor called and I sat there trying to hear his voicemail over the movie and texted him a few times before determining he didn't really need anything. He was on deadline, so ignoring him wasn't really an option. (No harm done to surrounding filmgoers though, as the movie easily drowned out my ring/text tones.) :lol:

So basically I was able to focus on the first 15-20 minutes and the last 15-20 minutes without distraction. :hammer: