Voyage of the Little Mermaid is done, won't reopen with the parks.

General Mayhem

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Then you need to fix the stance on your responses. It definitely IS a well known classic, too.

You can’t put the movie in the same category as The Black Cauldron, Home on the Range, and Chicken Little.

It is in the Hercules and Hunchback category. Which is a unique and special category and would actually do very well if an attraction opened up for it.
PatF isn't even on the level of Hercules and Hunchback because those films actually have fans.
 

PiratesMansion

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While I think there is a lot to celebrate about PATF, there's a lot that could have used a second look too. Flawless it is not.

And I shudder at the growing trend of calling things that are still relatively new "classics." Classic to me means something people still know and care about after 25 years or so. Certainly not ten-ish years.

Classic should have a meaning beyond "thing I like."
 

Katelynbird

Active Member
When they added the Little Mermaid ride over in the Magic Kingdom, I was wondering to myself why do they have to have a show and a ride. Grant it they are in two separate parks, but maybe The Little Mermaid is getting a bit overkill. The addition of a new show either Hunchback or even the new Onward I am thinking might stand a chance. The movie had a lot of adventure and magic in it as well as a very telling story to it. The two main characters are very likable and it would be a great opportunity for Disney to introduce them into the parks. Just my opinion.
 

Prototype82

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Not sure if we can call Princess and the Frog a "classic" in its young age but I won't hesitate to call it a masterpiece. The charm of the setting, the unforgettable characters. It's a foot thumper that I would love to see in an attraction compared to some of the oversaturated IP presenses we have.
 

InnKpr

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The thing with Dr. Facilier is that, of all Disney villains, he had the most understandable motivation for turning evil. A man of color in his time had little or no power of any kind. It's little wonder that when he had a chance for power via his "friends on the other side", he took it. He made a bad choice, but it's fun to think what might have happened if he became gradually intrigued with Tiana, so much so that her determination and essential goodness turned him around. I think he's a lot more interesting than the bland Prince she ended up with. JMHO.
Something interesting I heard/read awhile back. Not sure if there is any truth to this, but apparently it was originally planned to reveal he was a pupil of Mama Odie in his younger days. She taught him voodoo to help others for good, as she does. But when he became consumed with powerlust, he turned to his friends on the other side to develop darker magic.

Again, take it all worth a grain of salt, but that would have been a cool reveal within the movie.

Edit: And if there is ever a live-action remake (considering Disney's track record lately, that's already a given).
And if that plot point actually was intended for the original, I hope they'll consider adding it.
 
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MickeyLuv'r

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I'm thinking maybe the new LM movie is a factor here. If the new movie does well when it opens, WDW is going to do what they always do, and market the new version of the story in the parks.

Unless, of course, the movie bombs. Clearly, HM never received the Jim Evers overlay (in the PotC/Jack Sparrow style).
 

Disgruntled Walt

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
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I'm thinking maybe the new LM movie is a factor here. If the new movie does well when it opens, WDW is going to do what they always do, and market the new version of the story in the parks.

Unless, of course, the movie bombs. Clearly, HM never received the Jim Evers overlay (in the PotC/Jack Sparrow style).
Was that EVER actually a plan???
 

InnKpr

Well-Known Member
Something interesting I heard/read awhile back. Not sure if there is any truth to this, but apparently it was originally planned to reveal he was a pupil of Mama Odie in his younger days. She taught him voodoo to help others for good, as she does. But when he became consumed with powerlust, he turned to his friends on the other side to develop darker magic.

Again, take it all worth a grain of salt, but that would have been a cool reveal within the movie.

Edit: And if there is ever a live-action remake (considering Disney's track record lately, that's already a given).
And if that plot point actually was intended for the original, I hope they'll consider adding it.
The more I think about this, Disney was probably smart for not including this backstory. Way too reminiscent of the Anakin/Obi-Wan "Student becomes the enemy" thing, which has been done before many times.

And speaking of scrapped backstories not included in the final film, and to get this back toward Little Mermaid... one backstory I'm glad got chopped was the Ursula is King Triton's sister thing. Considering one sibling is part octopus and the other sibling is part fish, you have to wonder about the parental unit. How in the heck did that happen.. 🤔
 

Sharon&Susan

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Was that EVER actually a plan???
Yep, at least according to a TVGuide interview with Jennifer Tilly.
Jennifer Tilly said:
If the movie's really successful, Disney's gonna revamp the ride and I'll be the head in the ball at the beginning of it! They're gonna totally update it. So that's why I wanted to do this movie. I want to be a bigshot at Disneyland. I'm hoping I'll become another American icon
 

brb1006

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I watched The Black Cauldron for the first time the other day on Disney+ and I was just :jawdrop:. I don't see how that went over with little kids.
Animated children's movies from the late 70s and 80s (Nimh, Unico, Ringing Bell/Chirin no Suzu) didn't mess around when it comes to dark and scary content. Which is what I miss from modern animated films.
 

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