TrainsOfDisney
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If they are guaranteed hours and replace what used to be CP’s jobs they are indeed saving money.
If they keep those puppeteers on furlough they will save even more money
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If they are guaranteed hours and replace what used to be CP’s jobs they are indeed saving money.
If they keep those puppeteers on furlough they will save even more money
WondersOfLife
Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
It was a marketing failure, for sure. Especially opening a week before Avatar. But it was not a flop critically. "Underrated" doesn't mean "bad." Bashing something everyone else likes doesn't make you cool, either. One day you'll realize that.
You're literally the short definition of "Magenta Panther for Princess & the Frog" right now.
General Mayhem
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I don't hate Princess and the Frog I just disagree that it's a well known classic. It was largely forgotten not long after it's release (because far better films came out just a few years later).It was a marketing failure, for sure. Especially opening a week before Avatar. But it was not a flop critically. "Underrated" doesn't mean "bad." Bashing something everyone else likes doesn't make you cool, either. One day you'll realize that.
You're literally the short definition of "Magenta Panther for Princess & the Frog" right now.
WondersOfLife
Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
Then you need to fix the stance on your responses. It definitely IS a well known classic, too.
You can’t put the movie in the same category as The Black Cauldron, Home on the Range, and Chicken Little.
It is in the Hercules and Hunchback category. Which is a unique and special category and would actually do very well if an attraction opened up for it.
UNCgolf
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Hopefully The Black Cauldron will be remedied sometime relatively soon, since Disney bought the rights to the entire Prydain Chronicles a few years ago.
It's still one of the very best children/young adult fantasy series in existence, and deserves an excellent set of movies -- preferably one for each book, rather than taking some plots from the first two books and mashing them together along with other changes like Disney did with the original Black Cauldron film.
Animaniac93-98
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I'd support a Disney+ series with each book getting a season.
UNCgolf
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That could also work well.
peter11435
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That’s not exactly how it works.
erasure fan1
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Agreed with Disney renaissance but not Frozen. Outside of let it go, the frozen soundtrack was meh at best for me. Of course I think PatF is Disneys most under-rated animated movie in the modern era. And Frozen is the most over-rated.
disneygeek90
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My first time on VotLM was in 1993 when I was 2, my first trip to WDW. The show has always been nostalgic for my family as I was terribly afraid of the "sea witch." I recognize it was dated but this one is a bit hard for me to swallow.
I so agree! PatF has some great music, and one of Disney's best villain.
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WondersOfLife
Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
pdude81
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IMO there are a few Disney movies that fell into a hole, whether it was marketing or consumer malaise. Hercules, PatF, Emporer's New Groove and Hunchback where in this time period. I personally watched none of them at the time but 20 years later wonder how I missed them. Hercules and PatF both (IMO) have really good sountracks. Much better than how things were at the time, where any album had one or two good songs and a bunch of garbage. They at least had 3 or 4 memorable songs each.
Sweet Thing
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That IS pretty close to how it works. Or how it worked ten years ago. Those puppeteers aren’t ONLY puppeteers. They are also stiltwalkers and float drivers and dancers in parades and lookalikes and furry friends and area coordinators. If they are told to return to work, they have to get paid for their minimum hours.
peter11435
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Not really.
“If” they are told to report to work. They may not be, and even if they are asked to return to perform other roles there will still be a net reduction in roles and hours available.
Magenta Panther
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It was a marketing failure, for sure. Especially opening a week before Avatar. But it was not a flop critically. "Underrated" doesn't mean "bad." Bashing something everyone else likes doesn't make you cool, either. One day you'll realize that.
You're literally the short definition of "Magenta Panther for Princess & the Frog" right now.
You rang?
For my part, I absolutely love the song "Almost There". If the rest of the movie had been more like it in tone, I think PatF would have been a better picture and a bigger hit.
But no, wonderful working-girl Tiana got turned into a frog for most of the movie, and was turned into something of a killjoy during the swamp scenes. (And I still say Dr. Facilier should have been the leading man, grumble grumble).
EPCOTCenterLover
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The kids I know like PatF but find Facilier too dark and evil (even for a Disney movie). That seems to be its biggest challenge. They enjoyed the music though. As for me, I find PatF music much better than that of Moana.
Britt Bitt
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Magenta Panther
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The thing with Dr. Facilier is that, of all Disney villains, he had the most understandable motivation for turning evil. A man of color in his time had little or no power of any kind. It's little wonder that when he had a chance for power via his "friends on the other side", he took it. He made a bad choice, but it's fun to think what might have happened if he became gradually intrigued with Tiana, so much so that her determination and essential goodness turned him around. I think he's a lot more interesting than the bland Prince she ended up with. JMHO.