News Villains Land Announced for Walt Disney World's Magic Kingdom

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Bleed0range

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Does anyone else have this feeling that the land will not be very inspired? I feel like the concept art was all the most low hanging of fruit. I was not wowed by it. I really want to see them do something special, but a "roller coaster" sounds like something Universal would do. I hope it's a bit more of a production than just a themed coaster. I am trying to wrap my head around what it could be but I have trouble getting a clear vision and the concept art didn't leave me feeling like they have one either.
 
MagicHappens1971

MagicHappens1971

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Bleed0range said:
Does anyone else have this feeling that the land will not be very inspired? I feel like the concept art was all the most low hanging of fruit. I was not wowed by it. I really want to see them do something special, but a "roller coaster" sounds like something Universal would do. I hope it's a bit more of a production than just a themed coaster. I am trying to wrap my head around what it could be but I have trouble getting a clear vision and the concept art didn't leave me feeling like they have one either.
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It will be a heavily themed coaster and we do not know the second attraction, outside that it will be an “E-ticket”. I would imagine it will be a next gen Dark Ride like Rise. Especially with Universal really stepping up with the new Battle at the Ministry attraction.
 
Bocabear

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MagicHappens1971 said:
It will be a heavily themed coaster and we do not know the second attraction, outside that it will be an “E-ticket”. I would imagine it will be a next gen Dark Ride like Rise. Especially with Universal really stepping up with the new Battle at the Ministry attraction.
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there are things we absolutely don't know... Heavily Themed...well we know there will be rockwork...and probably a station like 7 dwarfs... as far as the second attraction I would not expect anything even remotely like Rise. Remember this is not the gigantic land announcement...it is Carsland Road Rally and a villains area... There has been no hype about anything in the Villain area except we are assuming a coaster and something else... THis is the team that removed a dark ride to put a princess meet and greet in Fantasyland...and also added another big meet and greet location in a circus tent... If those were considered major additions for the "new Fantasyland" I would not get my hopes up too high about the "villains area" especially with zero specifics known at this point. They continue to act like EPIC UNIVERSE down the road doesn't matter....so I am not sure I would bank on them doing something completely over the top here...especially after seeing the value engineered mess they made of EPCOT.
 
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celluloid

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It is wild that we have to live in a promise, that is more of a hope that modern Disney budget and WDI resources will deliver a "Heavily themed" attraction to their most popular and fiscal theme park in the world.
 
Bocabear

Bocabear

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celluloid said:
It is wild that we have to live in a promise, that is more of a hope that modern Disney budget and WDI resources will deliver a "Heavily themed" attraction to their most popular and fiscal theme park in the world.
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That's the truth... There was a time you could be sure that whatever Disney did was going to be beautifully themed, and the best of what could be built in the world... Sadly after a couple decades of value engineering and promises of destruction and replacement instead of additions...Promises of new attractions that do not fit their thematic areas, and a complete irreversible change in the very fabric of the Magic Kingdom, I am not feeling so hopeful...
 
DisDude33

DisDude33

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Bocabear said:
there are things we absolutely don't know... Heavily Themed...well we know there will be rockwork...and probably a station like 7 dwarfs... as far as the second attraction I would not expect anything even remotely like Rise. Remember this is not the gigantic land announcement...it is Carsland Road Rally and a villains area... There has been no hype about anything in the Villain area except we are assuming a coaster and something else... THis is the team that removed a dark ride to put a princess meet and greet in Fantasyland...and also added another big meet and greet location in a circus tent... If those were considered major additions for the "new Fantasyland" I would not get my hopes up too high about the "villains area" especially with zero specifics known at this point. They continue to act like EPIC UNIVERSE down the road doesn't matter....so I am not sure I would bank on them doing something completely over the top here...especially after seeing the value engineered mess they made of EPCOT.
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Aren’t a lot of the people that worked on New Fantasyland gone now? Also the chain of command (WDW president, parks and experiences head) is just different enough to make a difference.

One of the reasons we don’t have much info yet is because the details are still being decided. If we decide every project is bad before work even starts on it then it won’t even matter what they do because we already have it in our minds to hate it.
 
Fox&Hound

Fox&Hound

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Went and explored the entirety of Tom Sawyer’s island on my WDW trip last week. I had never been the fort on the very back of the island. Had no clue there was a jail, AAs, escape tunnels, and other sights. The boats were packed with people getting one last look. One bizarre discovery were the guns you could fire from the fort that point right at Big Thunder Mountain riders. Yes, obviously it is all fake but it was unsettling to realize all this time riding Big Thunder we were being shot at. Who knew?!?!

From a management perspective, TSI is a nightmare for guest with mobility issues. I can see why they would want to remove it. It is difficult to get to and while what is there is charming, I do understand the desire for something different in its place. Let’s hope Disney can deliver.
 
ToTBellHop

ToTBellHop

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Fox&Hound said:
Went and explored the entirety of Tom Sawyer’s island on my WDW trip last week. I had never been the fort on the very back of the island. Had no clue there was a jail, AAs, escape tunnels, and other sights. The boats were packed with people getting one last look. One bizarre discovery were the guns you could fire from the fort that point right at Big Thunder Mountain riders. Yes, obviously it is all fake but it was unsettling to realize all this time riding Big Thunder we were being shot at. Who knew?!?!

From a management perspective, TSI is a nightmare for guest with mobility issues. I can see why they would want to remove it. It is difficult to get to and while what is there is charming, I do understand the desire for something different in its place. Let’s hope Disney can deliver.
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Imagine trying to evacuate during a summer pop-up thunderstorm.
 
JohnD

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Fox&Hound said:
Went and explored the entirety of Tom Sawyer’s island on my WDW trip last week. I had never been the fort on the very back of the island. Had no clue there was a jail, AAs, escape tunnels, and other sights. The boats were packed with people getting one last look. One bizarre discovery were the guns you could fire from the fort that point right at Big Thunder Mountain riders. Yes, obviously it is all fake but it was unsettling to realize all this time riding Big Thunder we were being shot at. Who knew?!?!

From a management perspective, TSI is a nightmare for guest with mobility issues. I can see why they would want to remove it. It is difficult to get to and while what is there is charming, I do understand the desire for something different in its place. Let’s hope Disney can deliver.
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To be fair TSI was there before Big Thunder. I guess no one gave it any thought to have guns removed or whatever.
 
flyerjab

flyerjab

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MagicHappens1971 said:
It will be a heavily themed coaster and we do not know the second attraction, outside that it will be an “E-ticket”. I would imagine it will be a next gen Dark Ride like Rise. Especially with Universal really stepping up with the new Battle at the Ministry attraction.
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Regarding the heavily themed coaster…I’ve been wondering lately if this will be reminiscent in concept to the coaster they were making for Beastly Kingdom. Maybe there will be a large Maleficent dragon similar to the dragon they had concept art for when concepts for Beastly Kingdom were being explored. They always say that ideas that are not used never truly die.
 
Disgruntled Walt

Disgruntled Walt

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flyerjab said:
Regarding the heavily themed coaster…I’ve been wondering lately if this will be reminiscent in concept to the coaster they were making for Beastly Kingdom. Maybe there will be a large Maleficent dragon similar to the dragon they had concept art for when concepts for Beastly Kingdom were being explored. They always say that ideas that are not used never truly die.
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I would love it if they used that design. The roller coaster plan looked incredible, and I still haven't forgiven them for not building Beastly Kingdom. This would help.
 
Mike S

Mike S

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Skibum1970 said:
Why was it unsettling? They are not real and could not even fire a blank.
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