News Villains Land Announced for Walt Disney World's Magic Kingdom

[BrianLo]

Just a guess, then: 14 acres - 6.5 acres = 7.5 acres for Villains.

The concept art shows the Cars Mini-Land extending to across the BTMR, so it should cover about 6 acres as such....

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I thought that for a while too, but I think you actually have the Cars portion going up way too high. It plays a bit fast and lose with the angles, but @Coaster Lover ’s comparison highlights how all of cars is essentially contained below the bridge. Villains land actually starts earlier, which is probably why the Cars concept art is what it is.

You can see it starts/ends at the level of the green HM canopy.

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I even suspect Villains land is there on the sort of blurred out ‘River’ beside Big Thunder.

Doesn’t really matter except to say I think Villains is more like 9.5-ish acres.

 

[DisDude33]

Out of curiosity does anyone know the acreage of the existing lands in Magic Kingdom?

 

[doctornick]

Just a guess, then: 14 acres - 6.5 acres = 7.5 acres for Villains.

Disney certainly has shown ample ability to disappoint me, but I’d be surprised if they don’t at least put a ride show building outside the RR berm. Which is pretty standard operating procedure for Disney.

 

[BrianLo]

Disney certainly has shown ample ability to disappoint me, but I’d be surprised if they don’t at least put a ride show building outside the RR berm. Which is pretty standard operating procedure for Disney.

I’m really not sure they need to. Mystic Point and Grizzly Gulch take up a (generously measured) 8 acres. As a singular land that feels big enough to me. With wiggle room and an extra acreage to spare for fireworks viewing. They just need to utilize the land correctly and not have the coaster waste space like Slinky dog does. Concept art seems to suggest it comes into the land itself analogous to Grizzly.

They really just need some back of house access in the lay down yards outside the berm. Which I assume will remain.

 

[solidyne]

Disney certainly has shown ample ability to disappoint me, but I’d be surprised if they don’t at least put a ride show building outside the RR berm. Which is pretty standard operating procedure for Disney.

Now that show buildings need not be obscured, out-of-berm placement is less likely, no? (Indeed, they can disappoint!)

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ✨ ᗩζᗩᗰ]

Save the riverboat for Villainsland.

 

[JackCH]

Any credibility to the thought they might use the plot right behind small world for a few extra acres?

 

[DisDude33]

Any credibility to the thought they might use the plot right behind small world for a few extra acres?

I’d say it’s credible that conservations are happening about ways to add space but I’m curious about what that means for the budget of the overall project. I’d rather have a small well funded land than a huge area that ran out of money to build anything amazing.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Any credibility to the thought they might use the plot right behind small world for a few extra acres?

It'll have problems hiding HM and IaSW buildings, it's up against a road, it's hemmed in by WDRR and a canal, and, it's very near the fireworks launch.

So... not likely.

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ✨ ᗩζᗩᗰ]

It'll have problems hiding HM and IaSW buildings, it's up against a road, it's hemmed in by WDRR and a canal, and, it's very near the fireworks launch.

So... not likely.

Likely too small for an attraction pad and not suitable for guest footpath.

 

[JackCH]

Likely too small for an attraction pad and not suitable for guest footpath.

Yeah that was my one thought if they could just utilize it for part of an indoor attraction. But it may be too small.

 

[Fox&Hound]

I still kinda wish they were bringing Villains to DHS. Remove Indy and build into the parking lot. I do like the story of villains in MK but it just seems like it would solve a lot of problems by allowing Cars to push back a bit. As long as they built some rides without a height restriction too, I think it could be a home run.

Course, playing devil’s advocate, A Maleficent coaster and a villains stage show would round out the offering nicely at Mk and be more redundant at DHS.

I hope they have a really good plan in place.

 

[JackCH]

I still kinda wish they were bringing Villains to DHS. Remove Indy and build into the parking lot. I do like the story of villains in MK but it just seems like it would solve a lot of problems by allowing Cars to push back a bit. As long as they built some rides without a height restriction too, I think it could be a home run.

Course, playing devil’s advocate, A Maleficent coaster and a villains stage show would round out the offering nicely at Mk and be more redundant at DHS.

I hope they have a really good plan in place.

I think Villains is perfect at Magic Kingdom and only kind of makes sense at DHS because of Fantasmic.

Of the two, I'd rather Cars be going into DHS and Villains being a go for Magic.

I also highly doubt the "second major attraction" is referring to a stage show. The way it was framed at D23 is sounded like two rides.

 

[Sorcerer Mickey]

I think Villains is perfect at Magic Kingdom and only kind of makes sense at DHS because of Fantasmic.

Of the two, I'd rather Cars be going into DHS and Villains being a go for Magic.

I also highly doubt the "second major attraction" is referring to a stage show. The way it was framed at D23 is sounded like two rides.

That's a good point. Plus, the Villains will get their own show right across the street next to RnRC. Makes you wonder if RnRC + ToT could have been rethemed to villains and they drop the Sunset Boulevard theme in that area.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

That's a good point. Plus, the Villains will get their own show right across the street next to RnRC. Makes you wonder if RnRC + ToT could have been rethemed to villains and they drop the Sunset Boulevard theme in that area.

I think Disney knew that just retheming 2 rides and 1 show and incorporating a show would not make people very happy with a Villians land. It's definitely up there in even the general public for what people wanted in the parks. It would be like announcing Rock N Rollercoaster becoming the Monsters Inc Coaster as a retheme without any suspension.

 

[Vclguy90]

It would be like announcing Rock N Rollercoaster becoming the Monsters Inc Coaster as a retheme without any suspension.

This totally sounds like something Disney would do, now. lol