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Rumor Version of MaxPass coming to WDW in May?

NoChesterHester

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This will likely be pretty expensive. We just got back from Dollywood, a nice regional theme park in East Tennessee. The price point for their timesaver pass is $40 per person. The $160 for a family of four keeps usage very very low and makes it worth the cost.

I don’t know if this sheds any light on how they will price this, but I expect it to be enough that most will have to consider the value before just clicking “yes.”
 

trojanjustin

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This will likely be pretty expensive. We just got back from Dollywood, a nice regional theme park in East Tennessee. The price point for their timesaver pass is $40 per person. The $160 for a family of four keeps usage very very low and makes it worth the cost.

I don’t know if this sheds any light on how they will price this, but I expect it to be enough that most will have to consider the value before just clicking “yes.”
Keep in mind Disney has having NO problems charging $600/hour for a VIP tour. The primary benefit of which is unlimited access to the Fastpass lines, not even "front of line" access. Can't imagine they are going to eat into this exceptionally lucrative business by offering a pass that will even come close to this.
 

aaronml

Well-Known Member
Keep in mind Disney has having NO problems charging $600/hour for a VIP tour. The primary benefit of which is unlimited access to the Fastpass lines, not even "front of line" access. Can't imagine they are going to eat into this exceptionally lucrative business by offering a pass that will even come close to this.
Eh...... they can make plenty of money having people buy unlimited FP in the app without having to pay individual Guest Relations employees to ferry people around to various FP lines.

Plus they can find other ways to differentiate the “VIP Tour” product.

At the end of the day, this willl probably cannibalize some VIP Tour sales, but I doubt it will be major enough to stop TDO from doing it.
 

aliceismad

Well-Known Member
  1. Similarly, when you're in the park and looking for a Tier-1 to ride in MK, the app will offer you $8.99 SDMT FastPass to use right now.
$8.99 for SDD FP? Sold

Come on. Disney knows there is a market for this. They've tried out parties. They've tried out cabanas. They've tried out special EMM and DAH times. I'm surprised FPs were ever free, honestly.
 

trojanjustin

Well-Known Member
Eh...... they can make plenty of money having people buy unlimited FP in the app without having to pay individual Guest Relations employees to ferry people around to various FP lines.

Plus they can find other ways to differentiate the “VIP Tour” product.

At the end of the day, this willl probably cannibalize some VIP Tour sales, but I doubt it will be major enough to stop TDO from doing it.
The tour product is one of the issues but they’re not going to sell an “unlimited” Fastpass. Yes they’ll monetize the product but it’s not going to be like Universal’s product (or anywhere close to it).
 

markc

Active Member
Several months ago, while visiting a certain office in Celebration, I was told that a fairly faithful copy of DLP's version of the super/ultimate fastpass was potentially coming to WDW (albeit in a modified electronic form that removes the hole punchers they currently use at DLP). I'm guessing this is it...
 

Kman101

Well-Known Member
Nothing more except I still anticipate more to talk about before the end of this year.
I feel like this is going to end up being overly complicated. I also don't think the parks have enough attractions or capacity to offer any sort of paid pass (unlimited truly seems like a stretch, but I guess it depends on pricing) as well as free. Why do I feel like this is a mess waiting to happen?

Of course I hope I'm wrong!
 

nickys

Premium Member
I feel like this is going to end up being overly complicated. I also don't think the parks have enough attractions or capacity to offer any sort of paid pass (unlimited truly seems like a stretch, but I guess it depends on pricing) as well as free. Why do I feel like this is a mess waiting to happen?

Of course I hope I'm wrong!
They’ll just cut the number of free FPs released for booking. 😕

I think though there are so many possible options, that without knowing anything about what their thinking is, it’s really hard to even speculate as to what it’ll look like.

The DLP system is pretty simple though. But very pricey for the unlimited option. I quite like the idea of one FP for a select group of rides. Could be easy to load onto MDE, and the FP gets deleted as you ride. It could even be valid over several days.
 

Kman101

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They’ll just cut the number of free FPs released for booking. 😕

I think though there are so many possible options, that without knowing anything about what their thinking is, it’s really hard to even speculate as to what it’ll look like.

The DLP system is pretty simple though. But very pricey for the unlimited option. I quite like the idea of one FP for a select group of rides. Could be easy to load onto MDE, and the FP gets deleted as you ride. It could even be valid over several days.
It is hard to speculate. I agree they'll just cut the number of free FPs.

I like the Shanghai method, personally (they have groupings, single passes). But I think DLR does it best with day of only, no booking six months ahead of time. That's ludicrous and only beneficial to Disney (just like dining reservations). They paint it as a tool to make it easier for you but it really is for them and being able to 'predict' how busy it will be/staffing/etc. .... we shouldn't even have an option to book so many months in advance.

I wasn't very aware of the Paris method, few seem to talk about it. I'll have to try and research it, I wasn't even really aware they had a paid version, actually ...

I wouldn't mind a mix of DLR/Shanghai.
 

NoChesterHester

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I feel like this is going to end up being overly complicated. I also don't think the parks have enough attractions or capacity to offer any sort of paid pass (unlimited truly seems like a stretch, but I guess it depends on pricing) as well as free. Why do I feel like this is a mess waiting to happen?

Of course I hope I'm wrong!
I think much like the new ticketing, this will only be complicated if one is trying to analyze all options. For the typical guest going on a vacation on “x” date it should appear pretty simple. There may be options, but they will just appear as upgrades.
 

Kman101

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I think much like the new ticketing, this will only be complicated if one is trying to analyze all options. For the typical guest going on a vacation on “x” date it should appear pretty simple. There may be options, but they will just appear as upgrades.
Without really knowing what to expect it's hard to speculate. I just think they sometimes overcomplicate things that should be as simple as going to the park, day of, and selecting fast passes (and I don't hate the booking on the phone part like some do who hate how much was spent on all of this). A part of me does like booking a month ahead of time, but I wish they'd do away with it. I know why they don't, and won't, though.

I'd love more options and I'm open to paying, but it depends. I would definitely take advantage of the options Shanghai has should I ever get there (and I will, someday)
 

NoChesterHester

Well-Known Member
Without really knowing what to expect it's hard to speculate. I just think they sometimes overcomplicate things that should be as simple as going to the park, day of, and selecting fast passes (and I don't hate the booking on the phone part like some do who hate how much was spent on all of this). A part of me does like booking a month ahead of time, but I wish they'd do away with it. I know why they don't, and won't, though.

I'd love more options and I'm open to paying, but it depends. I would definitely take advantage of the options Shanghai has should I ever get there (and I will, someday)
If they do a pay version, I would want them to eliminate free fastpasses for the same attractions. We only go once every couple years so if it ends up being an upcharge it needs to be worth it. I’d also want less overall capacity devoted to fastpass.
 

nickys

Premium Member
It is hard to speculate. I agree they'll just cut the number of free FPs.

I like the Shanghai method, personally (they have groupings, single passes). But I think DLR does it best with day of only, no booking six months ahead of time. That's ludicrous and only beneficial to Disney (just like dining reservations). They paint it as a tool to make it easier for you but it really is for them and being able to 'predict' how busy it will be/staffing/etc. .... we shouldn't even have an option to book so many months in advance.

I wasn't very aware of the Paris method, few seem to talk about it. I'll have to try and research it, I wasn't even really aware they had a paid version, actually ...

I wouldn't mind a mix of DLR/Shanghai.
See, I don’t like the day of FPs. It benefits the early risers and penalises those who like a more relaxed style of vacation. And also the charge per day thing, which penalises those staying longer and is counter-intuitive. I don’t mind doing a bit of planning and booking the most important (to us) FPs ahead of time. That way we can roll up at 11am knowing we can still ride the popular rides.

Here’s the DLP paid fastpass options page, you can also do it the old way from WDW (free, one at a time in park):

 

Kman101

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See, I don’t like the day of FPs. It benefits the early risers and penalises those who like a more relaxed style of vacation. And also the charge per day thing, which penalises those staying longer and is counter-intuitive. I don’t mind doing a bit of planning and booking the most important (to us) FPs ahead of time. That way we can roll up at 11am knowing we can still ride the popular rides.

Here’s the DLP paid fastpass options page, you can also do it the old way from WDW (free, one at a time in park):

I hear ya on the booking ahead of time. A part of me really likes the option, but I also dislike it. LOL. I guess I'm a bit of a hypocrite on that. As someone who randomly decides when I go, I can often still snag most of the FPs I want day of or the day/week of (depends, of course - busier times I see an instant difference in availability - and some just aren't an option, like Slinky, 7DMT and Flight of Passage). But it's kind of the same thing, you have to basically be up at the crack of dawn to book your FPs months in advance. If I hit the app when I can book a FP 30 days out, I have to get up early (and some OK options last throughout the day/week/months). It's no different than same day when you have to get to the park early. I actually think it'd improve the availability, but I have no data or proof. Maybe wishful thinking? lol

Thank you for the link! I'll go check it out.
 

nickys

Premium Member
I hear ya on the booking ahead of time. A part of me really likes the option, but I also dislike it. LOL. I guess I'm a bit of a hypocrite on that. As someone who randomly decides when I go, I can often still snag most of the FPs I want day of or the day/week of (depends, of course - busier times I see an instant difference in availability - and some just aren't an option, like Slinky, 7DMT and Flight of Passage). But it's kind of the same thing, you have to basically be up at the crack of dawn to book your FPs months in advance. If I hit the app when I can book a FP 30 days out, I have to get up early (and some OK options last throughout the day/week/months). It's no different than same day when you have to get to the park early. I actually think it'd improve the availability, but I have no data or proof. Maybe wishful thinking? lol

Thank you for the link! I'll go check it out.
Ah I have the advantage there, being 5 hours ahead. Although that does put it in the middle of a school day, so I can’t be right on the dot. But because we stay for 10 days or more, it doesn’t really matter. Except for the new split stays thing .... But then when I’m on holiday I want to be relaxing. I don’t really care about a couple of days two months ahead!
 
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