Rumor Version of MaxPass coming to WDW in May?

[Rteetz]

MDE has been glitching for 4 years. At some point we need to acknowledge that it's not a glitch and it doesn't work.

Is it a great app? No. Does it work all the time? No. Is it always broken? No.

For me it works for the majority of things. Certainly has its issues but most apps do. Disney themselves knows its got issues but if it was flat out broken nobody would be able to use it for anything. That's not the case.

 

[I am Timmy]

I thought a brand new change, an "update", has just happened in the last day or two that is causing new problems? Perhaps that is what @kong1802 is referring to? I have been reading new issues all evening on Disney threads that does not inspire confidence.

 

[nickys]

Is it a great app? No. Does it work all the time? No. Is it always broken? No.

For me it works for the majority of things. Certainly has its issues but most apps do. Disney themselves knows its got issues but if it was flat out broken nobody would be able to use it for anything. That's not the case.

I thought a brand new change, an "update", has just happened in the last day or two that is causing new problems? Perhaps that is what @kong1802 is referring to? I have been reading new issues all evening on Disney threads that does not inspire confidence.

I think the trend recently is that on “Update Tuesdays” especially, since that’s when they seem to do most of the significant updates, they fix one thing and break others. Just look at the recent updates surrounding FPs.... loopholes closed, new ones created. I wouldn’t call those glitches though, it’s bad testing and/or poor understanding of the system.

The same day FP issues in the parks seems to have been ever more prevalent recently. As are problems for anyone trying to book ADRs and/or FPs on a Tuesday. Those are glitches, albeit caused by insufficient testing.

That said, the system works reasonably well most of the time. It’s just with the ever continual “updates” recently, there are more frequent issues arising.

 

[winstongator]

Is it a great app? No. Does it work all the time? No. Is it always broken? No.

For me it works for the majority of things. Certainly has its issues but most apps do. Disney themselves knows its got issues but if it was flat out broken nobody would be able to use it for anything. That's not the case.

The summer Pandora opened, 2 years ago, I could open the app and easily look for Flight of Passage FP+. I always logged in OK, and searching for FP+ worked as intended. Now it is maybe 25% of the time where that occurs. Often it is a close, reopen, maybe do that cycle twice. Something happened, whether it was an iOS update causing a problem with old code, or new code not being robust. I've read that the app works better with Android which I've heard regarding other apps as well. Does the app work better on Android?

I think the trend recently is that on “Update Tuesdays” especially, since that’s when they seem to do most of the significant updates, they fix one thing and break others. Just look at the recent updates surrounding FPs.... loopholes closed, new ones created. I wouldn’t call those glitches though, it’s bad testing and/or poor understanding of the system.

The same day FP issues in the parks seems to have been ever more prevalent recently. As are problems for anyone trying to book ADRs and/or FPs on a Tuesday. Those are glitches, albeit caused by insufficient testing.

That said, the system works reasonably well most of the time. It’s just with the ever continual “updates” recently, there are more frequent issues arising.

I'd say they need to have a major update in the works that more systematically addresses the issues, perhaps wrt OS differences. What does help WDW is that their major park change is less dependent on the MDE app...but maybe more dependent on the Play Disney Parks app...

 

[kong1802]

I thought a brand new change, an "update", has just happened in the last day or two that is causing new problems? Perhaps that is what @kong1802 is referring to? I have been reading new issues all evening on Disney threads that does not inspire confidence.

Yes. That’s what I’m referring too. With the new app yesterday refresh FPers we’re having a heck of a time. It was showing lots of availability until you went to book, then it said no availability. CMs were telling people to just use the kiosks. Apparently that still didn’t work for everyone. Not sure if this is related to changing the FP system or not.

 

[wdworlandlover]

We did that too.. It was the most crowded I've seen personally, but was totally managable, and with securing the day of FastPasses, we hardly waited in any long lines.

I was there that week, too, and I thought it was extremely crowded. The Presidents Day crowds plus the runners coming in for the races over the next weekend made for A LOT of people! I go down there (I live in Alabama) quite a bit and can’t remember ever being there when it was so crowded, except for a Thanksgiving week around 10 years ago. That being said, I was still able to get more FP after my initial 3 were used. On the other hand, I will be marking that week off my calendar for future visits. It was way too crowded!

 

[LuvWDW2]

This FP issue is new and it doesn’t matter if you are using new app, old app or browser.

If you go to book a FP and a headliner comes up, by the time you click the time a second later it tells you it’s either gone or automatically assigns you a new time (often several hours later).

 

[Patcheslee]

This FP issue is new and it doesn’t matter if you are using new app, old app or browser.

If you go to book a FP and a headliner comes up, by the time you click the time a second later it tells you it’s either gone or automatically assigns you a new time (often several hours later).

Can I just throw a conspiracy theory out there? Probably a glitch, but maybe it's a hybrid of the FP and MaxPass system. Book initial 3 as always but day of gives you a FP equal to the standby time.

 

[kong1802]

Can I just throw a conspiracy theory out there? Probably a glitch, but maybe it's a hybrid of the FP and MaxPass system. Book initial 3 as always but day of gives you a FP equal to the standby time.

Conspiracy theories are always welcomed

 

[LuvWDW2]

Can I just throw a conspiracy theory out there? Probably a glitch, but maybe it's a hybrid of the FP and MaxPass system. Book initial 3 as always but day of gives you a FP equal to the standby time.

Perhaps? But there are people on other boards having similar issues when trying to modify times for FP that are much farther out. I personally only tested today, at MK.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Can I just throw a conspiracy theory out there?

conspiracy​

 

[CalebS]

It could be something like where you can make your three fast passes ahead of time but once you’ve used your first three you can’t make more w/o the add on. I’m not sure if that would be profitable enough though. Seems like if profit is the motivator then charging extra for the mega E tickets/ new stuff seems the way they would go

 

[Polite]

It could be something like where you can make your three fast passes ahead of time but once you’ve used your first three you can’t make more w/o the add on. I’m not sure if that would be profitable enough though. Seems like if profit is the motivator then charging extra for the mega E tickets/ new stuff seems the way they would go

I will be pleasantly surprised if we get to keep 3 freebies but not counting on it.

 

[RSoxNo1]

Is it a great app? No. Does it work all the time? No. Is it always broken? No.

For me it works for the majority of things. Certainly has its issues but most apps do. Disney themselves knows its got issues but if it was flat out broken nobody would be able to use it for anything. That's not the case.

We expect technology to have a certain level of down time or ineffectiveness. This app exceeds that for me, but it's a necessary evil to the extent that if you don't use the lousy app you're at a greater disadvantage.

 

[RSoxNo1]

I think the trend recently is that on “Update Tuesdays” especially, since that’s when they seem to do most of the significant updates, they fix one thing and break others. Just look at the recent updates surrounding FPs.... loopholes closed, new ones created. I wouldn’t call those glitches though, it’s bad testing and/or poor understanding of the system.

• The same day FP issues in the parks seems to have been ever more prevalent recently. As are problems for anyone trying to book ADRs and/or FPs on a Tuesday. Those are glitches, albeit caused by insufficient testing.

That said, the system works reasonably well most of the time. It’s just with the ever continual “updates” recently, there are more frequent issues arising.

I'm curious what the new loopholes are. I thought they've done a pretty good job of closing those.

The summer Pandora opened, 2 years ago, I could open the app and easily look for Flight of Passage FP+. I always logged in OK, and searching for FP+ worked as intended. Now it is maybe 25% of the time where that occurs. Often it is a close, reopen, maybe do that cycle twice. Something happened, whether it was an iOS update causing a problem with old code, or new code not being robust. I've read that the app works better with Android which I've heard regarding other apps as well. Does the app work better on Android?


I'd say they need to have a major update in the works that more systematically addresses the issues, perhaps wrt OS differences. What does help WDW is that their major park change is less dependent on the MDE app...but maybe more dependent on the Play Disney Parks app...

They need to simplify the Fastpass system and it solves 95% of the problems with the app.

I will be pleasantly surprised if we get to keep 3 freebies but not counting on it.

My suggestion is either revert back to the legacy rules or take the following proposal:

• Eliminate tiers
• Resort guests get 1 advanced booking and 1 additional booking upon entering a park
• Non-resort guests get 2 bookings upon entering the park.
• Upon use of any Fastpass it opens up the ability to make another selection. Once in the park, everyone can "roll" 2 Fastpasses.
• To further simplify it, I'd say that other than the advanced bookings all same day Fastpasses would be next available like the legacy rules, but I'm not married to that aspect.
• If you want to build in advanced bookings for AP holders or as an up charge for non-resort guests that's an option as well.

 

[nickys]

I'm curious what the new loopholes are. I thought they've done a pretty good job of closing those.

Hmmm, sure I summarised them a few (several) pages ago. Briefly then:

- so a numpty managed to take the “no one can hold an FP more than 74 days ahead” rule that worked fine and actually created an FP booking window for some people of 74 days ahead. This is now fixed again.

- they totally messed up the split stay booking window, creating separate windows instead. Now that may have been deliberate (it was a very simple solution to the leading reservation problem) but they’ve now rolled it back suggesting it was in fact unintended.

- now of course they still have the problem of leading reservations, unless they have linked FPs to the booking window as well as the reservation and delete FPs if a room is cancelled less than 30 days out. Neither of which have been tested yet.

They did close several loopholes though. Definitely a step in the right direction.

 

[LuvWDW2]

Hmmm, sure I summarised them a few (several) pages ago. Briefly then:

- so a numpty managed to take the “no one can hold an FP more than 74 days ahead” rule that worked fine and actually created an FP booking window for some people of 74 days ahead. This is now fixed again.

- they totally messed up the split stay booking window, creating separate windows instead. Now that may have been deliberate (it was a very simple solution to the leading reservation problem) but they’ve now rolled it back suggesting it was in fact unintended.

- now of course they still have the problem of leading reservations, unless they have linked FPs to the booking window as well as the reservation and delete FPs if a room is cancelled less than 30 days out. Neither of which have been tested yet.

They did close several loopholes though. Definitely a step in the right direction.

Wait when did the split stay ability come back?

 

[nickys]

Wait when did the split stay ability come back?

About 10 days ago. There have since been quite a few posts around on other forums confirming, with no one claiming “it didn’t Work for me”.

I must check to see if I posted about it in the last couple of days. Maybe I forgot?

 

[LuvWDW2]

About 10 days ago. There have since been quite a few posts around on other forums confirming, with no one claiming “it didn’t Work for me”.

I must check to see if I posted about it in the last couple of days. Maybe I forgot?

Fascinating! I just booked a one night stay at ASMovies because we will be arriving after midnight. That means my FP day is now this Friday instead of Saturday. You just saved me from a 6am wake up on a Saturday!!!!

 

[biggy H]

- so a numpty managed to take the “no one can hold an FP more than 74 days ahead” rule that worked fine and actually created an FP booking window for some people of 74 days ahead. This is now fixed again.

You do know that UK visitors can book 21 days worth (with the appropriate ticket) at the 60 day mark so guests can have a FP+ 81 days in advance...