StarWarsGirl
Well-Known Member
Yeah, I might just be arguing for the sake of arguing. I get like that.
No worries, you're being polite and logical, even when others don't share your views
Yeah, I might just be arguing for the sake of arguing. I get like that.
Pretty sure the exorbitant wait times for TSMM have more to do with the lack of family-friendly rides at DHS, and less to do with FastPass.
What kind of person waits 8 hours for a theme park ride? One that is apparently available for the Wii console?I have a Facebook friend who works at Tokyo DisneySea. Several months ago, she posted that their TSMM had an 8 hour wait. I asked her if she was serious and she repeated that the wait was indeed, 8 hours. A short time later, she posted photos of a ridiculous line of people winding down the street.
From what I've seen/heard, TDS has no shortage of quality attractions and no Fast Pass and this ride gets this type of draw? That's nuts!
What kind of person waits 8 hours for a theme park ride? One that is apparently available for the Wii console?
What happens if you have to go pee (asks the middle aged lady who pees every two hours - TMI)? What happens if your kid has to go? I don't get it.
You can't argue this one though. TSMM was not designed to have Fastpass. It was a local decision made at local level, against recommendation.A fantastic example of using incomplete information with dissimilar experiments and claiming conclusive 'facts' based on comparing them. Thank you for illustrating for me the exact type of fallacies that plague the community.
You can't argue this one though. TSMM was not designed to have Fastpass. It was a local decision made at local level, against recommendation.
Rather than demean the intelligence of others, can you provide a logical example of how Fastpass does not cause longer lines at attractions? I'd really like to hear it.
In what way is that "in fact crap"? I've personally ridden numerous popular rides long before fastpass was invented (ones that remain incredibly popular even today today such as Big Thunder and Splash Mountain) and can say with confidence that fastpass has made their lines both far longer in length as well as much slower to move along than they used to be. Easily a good 3-6x than they were when they didn't used to have fastpass. This measured within the same parameters before and after with only fastpass being the differing element (same park, same time of year, similar overall park crowd sizes etc).
You can't argue this one though. TSMM was not designed to have Fastpass. It was a local decision made at local level, against recommendation.
Not at all. That's the fault of the park having limited constantly loading attractions.That's fine. But do you think tsmm would have a 20min wait without fp?
That's all that really needs to be understood to disprove the claimed 'fact'
Again... Failure of logic. Who was the one claiming a factual cause and effect? The burden of proof is on the one making the claim. I'm simply showing how the supporting 'experiment' is flawed and hence the conclusions drawn from it are also flawed.
Just because when you walk out the door of your house... You see the sun... That doesn't mean you walking out of your house causes the sun to rise.
These are just both examples where people make factual observations but make incorrect conclusions because their methods are incomplete.
That's fine. But do you think tsmm would have a 20min wait without fp?
That's all that really needs to be understood to disprove the claimed 'fact'
Quoted for truth. Soft Opening day of Mermaid was a revelation. About noon the following day fast past was turned on and the standby line mushroomed.This year there was a period of time when Peter Pan's Flight, Winnie the Pooh and Journey of the Little Mermaid did not offer FP.
Mermaid--on opening day!-- with no FP had a 45 minute wait. The next day with FP, 120 minutes.
Peter Pan's Flight 25-35.
Pooh 20-25.
I just recently listened to the 07 SSE Bruce Broughton score by itself without the narration and while the music is admittedly one of the relatively less painful aspects of the current SSE, It is rather underwhelming and is basically the same basic theme repeating itself up until the Renaissance scene. The 1994 score on the other hand combined with Irons narration was one of the most epic and emotional experiences I have ever had. That music captured and enhanced the aura of the attraction and it's message perfectly. It felt like an organic part of the attraction where the current score is basically an underscore to the often physically painful Judi Dench narration.
I'm still amused that the waits for RSR are so long that they feel the need to sell drinks in line...
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