Tropical Hideaway Construction - Tiki Room Refurbishment - Adventureland Entry Remodel

[THE 1HAPPY HAUNT]

:: insert picture of Mission: Bomb Shelter towering over everything.

how that design ever got approved is beyond me. it is such a eye sore and it makes no sense. for one that is not how The Collector's base looks like in the movies, and what is the story? the collector moved his collection permanently to California Adventure? why would he do that? is it a traveling show? again why would he do that? and it does not even fit the land the attraction is set in. the Tower Of Tower while made to look decrepid was beautiful to look at.

 

[THE 1HAPPY HAUNT]

When Disneyland was built, you were able to see the castle from everywhere in the park because Walt wanted to guests to know where they were and how to get back to the hub from wherever they were in the park. Everything now is just overgrown. Disney World still follows how Walt wanted the park to be. Where you can always find your way by using the castle from anywhere in the park.

I don't know about that. I don't think you could have seen the castle from the indian village but I was not around back then. the lands were designed to be as immersive as possible and over grown foliage or not, it is great that the castle is not visible from all over the park. it works.

 

[Sharon&Susan]

I’ve always considered the land in Disneyland as collections of ideas, rather than lands meant to be actual places. Main Street USA embodies all the small towns of the US in the turn of the century. Adventureland has no consistent time period and is not meant to be a specific place, it is rather meant to embody the spirit of Adventure. I could go on and on, but the sole land during Walt’s time with a very firm setting was New Orleans Square, but that has no firm time period!

 

[CraftyFox]

Some of the construction walls in front of the Enchanted Tiki Room! There’s a new queue/waiting area!

 

[Kram Sacul]

how that design ever got approved is beyond me. it is such a eye sore and it makes no sense. for one that is not how The Collector's base looks like in the movies, and what is the story? the collector moved his collection permanently to California Adventure? why would he do that? is it a traveling show? again why would he do that? and it does not even fit the land the attraction is set in. the Tower Of Tower while made to look decrepid was beautiful to look at.

I think it’s supposed to be a spaceship/fortress, with palm trees growing around it. It also suspiciously looks like a bombed out hotel from the 1930s with fire escapes and painted over windows.

They really should’ve just had it be the Hollywood Tower Hotel but with the Collector as new management. It would’ve been much more visually interesting to see as well with the tower facade having sci-fi stuff growing out of it. It also would’ve made more sense than the silly fortress/warehouse/power plant BS they pulled out of their butts.

 

[CraftyFox]

I think it’s supposed to be a spaceship/fortress, with palm trees growing around it. It also suspiciously looks like a bombed out hotel from the 1930s with fire escapes and painted over windows.

They really should’ve just had it be the Hollywood Tower Hotel but with the Collector as new management. It would’ve been much more visually interesting to see as well with the tower facade having sci-fi stuff growing out of it. It also would’ve made more sense than the silly fortress/warehouse/power plant BS they pulled out of their butts.

YES! Not only would that have been so much better aesthetically, but it probably would have been more frugal from a financial standpoint.

 

[SuddenStorm]

The changes to the Tiki Room waiting area are yet another example of what Rolly Crump was talking about a few weeks back.

Many of the changes being made to the park would be more palatable if what was being put in still maintained the level of charm and quality of what was there before.

Dumbo- the shade structure is a huge improvement, but the whole thing feels kind of bland and hastily put together. The loss the of the hedge was unnecessary and disappointing.

Tiki Room- the ramp is a huge improvement for disabled guests, but this bamboo feels bland and hastily put together when compared to what was there before.

Something I noticed in the Freshbaked video is how visible the Main Street half of the building is. Has it always been this visible? I don't remember noticing it unless you looked for it. Hopefully they do something to disguise the Main Street half.

As long as the preshow is still there and completely intact, I guess it's not a huge deal. Whatever it takes to keep the Tiki Room around and as close to original as possible.

 

[dweezil78]

To me it is not soo much about charm per say, even though Disneyland has tons of it, it is about personality. Disneyland has it. MK does not. period. Disneyland truly is magical in that the second you step into it, you feel Walt's presence. You feel his personal touch and presence throughout the park. You feel that history. Disneyland was designed as something truly original and they had to do it within certain size constraints. they designed it to be unique. When they were building it, they did not know there was going to be a sequel park or future resorts. They did not even know if the park would be successful. So they focused on making a park that could stand the test of time. Love, care and personality went into it. MK can not say the same. They wanted a park in FL and made a copy of Disneyland. of sure it had the first SPACE MOUNTAIN and the Mansion is in a different location, but it is just a copy. no heart or personality of it's own. space was not a issue so the imagineers were able to try to improve upon things they thought needed improving upon on the attractions but there is something to be said for art that comes from diversity. MK is a nice looking park but DISNEYLAND will always be better. end of discussion.

You sound like you are simply regurgitating things you've read on other threads and not actually offering any real opinion of your own. DL may be the better park, but MK is not without its merits or unique personality and is not just some lame corporatized copy devoid of any soul.

 

[SuddenStorm]

I like seeing other parts of the park in the park. I don't like that Galaxy's Edge won't even have the DLRR in it. Bothers me.

Interesting point. Not something I had thought about before- but won't Galaxy's Edge be the only land the railroad won't be visible at all?

Hopefully they'll have the ability to catch a glimpse of it. Yes, immersion into the land is good- but it's still Disneyland, and seeing the railroad will definitely help make it feel like Disneyland.

 

[jmuboy]

I'm sure they had other options. I dont think this was the only option or LAST resort

I know planters are illegal at Disneyland nowadays...........but can we at least have two potted ferns flanking the Marquee would help

Or plant a small a small planter of real bamboo in patches to help add some greenery. To me the real offense is the openness from the main walkway.

 

[jmuboy]

Interesting point. Not something I had thought about before- but won't Galaxy's Edge be the only land the railroad won't be visible at all?

Adventureland has no Railroad views

 

[Stevek]

Looks terrible. Another downgrade of course. It's getting laughable.

The first 9 seconds, the face, "I'm distraught", "I'm broken hearted"...he seriously looks like someone shot his puppy...I can't take these folks seriously or watch their videos for very long. I don't think it's terrible given it appears that it's something that had to be done. Maybe after a bit of time, the bamboo will age and darken up to fit in better with the area. Ultimately, I'll need to see it in person to better judge but in and of itself, it's not going to ruin my DL or ETR experience.

 

[Disneylover152]

I personally think the wall with minor improvements would look fine.

If they add more decor to the tiki wall like Tiki God statues and other stuff as well as add two-three big trees to the Main Street side of the wall, it would look fine.

 

[mickEblu]

To me the real offense is the openness from the main walkway.

Yup

 

[DanielBB8]

Dumbo- the shade structure is a huge improvement, but the whole thing feels kind of bland and hastily put together. The loss the of the hedge was unnecessary and disappointing.

Tiki Room- the ramp is a huge improvement for disabled guests, but this bamboo feels bland and hastily put together when compared to what was there before.

They are not “hastily put together.” That would imply poor worksmanship. What you’re complaining about is poor design and design decisions. I fail to see how not having decor to your liking qualifies as poor design. Dumbo queue is inherently a circus tent like structure.

Tiki Room is just like any Tiki bar. Kitschy tacky bamboo, totems, and signage. They could just up the ante with adding a ton more signs, masks, and plants. Makes it more Tiki Bar yet less authentic Hawaiian. So maybe that’s what you’ll get.

 

[Californian Elitist]

My biggest issue is that people still get this worked up about a ramp...

It is comments like these that keep the mediocrity going. If the guests don’t demand quality and effort in “the little things,” why should Disney?

The amount of effort Disney used to put in their product indeed is going away. But it’s just ramp, right?

Let the mediocrity continue.

 

[mickEblu]

It is comments like these that keep the mediocrity going. If the guests don’t demand quality and effort in “the little things,” why should Disney?

The amount of effort Disney used to put in their product indeed is going away. But it’s just ramp, right?

Let the mediocrity continue.

Disney marketing is winning. People seem to be content giving a pass after pass for mediocre work at best.

 

[Disney Analyst]

It is comments like these that keep the mediocrity going. If the guests don’t demand quality and effort in “the little things,” why should Disney?

The amount of effort Disney used to put in their product indeed is going away. But it’s just ramp, right?

Let the mediocrity continue.

I just think it honestly looks fine and people are overreacting. I’m always on board for calling out Disney when they do stupid things... I just really don’t agree on this one.

 

[mickEblu]

I just think it honestly looks fine and people are overreacting. I’m always on board for calling out Disney when they do stupid things... I just really don’t agree on this one.

Ok that’s fine but do you think it looks better now or before?

 

[Stevek]

It is comments like these that keep the mediocrity going. If the guests don’t demand quality and effort in “the little things,” why should Disney?

The amount of effort Disney used to put in their product indeed is going away. But it’s just ramp, right?

Let the mediocrity continue.

I guess the question is, who determines whether the design of this ramp is mediocrity or not? As I said before, it is my understanding that it had to be done...was there really a better option? I'm guessing Disney looked at multiple options and they believed this was the best one. I sincerely doubt anyone said, let's just build the worst version possible. Like anything else, some fans will hate it, others won't care or don't feel it's poorly done. But I have a hard time calling anyone out because they aren't overly concerned about an wheelchair ramp.

I somewhat disagree with your comment about effort into product going away. The River redo, SW Land, Pandora, Tropical Hideaway (possibly), BV Street, Carsland (yes, those are older), some of the new stuff coming to WDW...hardly little effort. There may be instances where we all scratch our heads (hello Pixar Pier) but it's hard for me to personally get all over them about a ramp that will provide better access for wheelchair bound folks. I'd rather save my negative energy for things like Pixar Pier/Fest.