News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

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J4546

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I like the tron coaster, and im glad they put it in fla, but I hope they dont bring it to Ca. It certainly will help shorten the wait times of other rides in the magic kingdom though, and after a couple years maybe the line for tron will be a 45 minute or less wait.
 
Buried20KLeague

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GimpYancIent said:
Well you assume a lot. The most Americans comment says a lot about you. As for me I can talk, been there done that, no brag just fact. I see it differently than you. Oh well! Have a wonderful day.
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I’m American. We’re egocentric entitled people that assume the rest of the world isn’t as good as us.

you learn that when you actually visit the places everyone assumes aren’t as super keen as Orlando and find out otherwise.
 
Buried20KLeague

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BrianLo said:
I thought Guest satisfaction for it was high in Shanghai?

I totally agree though it won't be worth the wait times that it will command in MK, which is more the problem. But one could say the same about SDMT and Slinky - so I'd be surprised if the general reaction is as bad as people are predicting.

I too think it will be a net positive. But MK needs (way) more.
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I’m sure it gets great guest sat numbers there, but it’s a very different standard. In general the public there isn’t used to the high level of parks we are. And the wait times being low there surely help.

it’s something new in the MK... I’m sure the scores will be fine. If you’re thirsty in a desert, you’ll be ecstatic for a cup of dirty water because that’s what you’re given.
 
UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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Buried20KLeague said:
I’m American. We’re egocentric entitled people that assume the rest of the world isn’t as good as us.

you learn that when you actually visit the places everyone assumes aren’t as super keen as Orlando and find out otherwise.
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Does anyone really think Orlando is all that great on its own?

Even including the theme parks, I don't think it makes the top 5 of places to visit just among US cities, and the US doesn't even have that many interesting cities from a tourism standpoint compared to other countries. If you removed WDW and Universal from the equation, there'd be very little reason for any tourists to ever visit Orlando.

But yeah. There probably are people who think Orlando is the best place.
 
MadTeacup

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UNCgolf said:
Does anyone really think Orlando is all that great on its own?

Even including the theme parks, I don't think it makes the top 5 of places to visit just among US cities, and the US doesn't even have that many interesting cities from a tourism standpoint compared to other countries. If you removed WDW and Universal from the equation, there'd be very little reason for any tourists to ever visit Orlando.

But yeah. There probably are people who think Orlando is the best place.
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My Aunt and Uncle are those weird people who LOVE visiting Orlando, but almost never visit the parks. (I have a strange family, guys.) They come to Orlando every winter to enjoy a warm, sunny resort and to visit all of the amazing small towns around the area such as Mt. Dora, Winter Haven, Winter Park, Winter Garden, etc. Meanwhile, here I am living in Orlando, a city I truthfully don't care for very much (no offense to those who love it), simply because I love what I do and I can't do it anywhere else. It honestly shouldn't rank high on a list of destination cities because as a city itself, its culture is lacking. However, I disagree that the US is lacking in interesting cities. There are many cities in the US with just as much charm and culture as the great cities of other countries. I love visiting Europe, but seeing the culture of the US is every bit as appealing to me.
 
BrianLo

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UNCgolf said:
Does anyone really think Orlando is all that great on its own?

Even including the theme parks, I don't think it makes the top 5 of places to visit just among US cities, and the US doesn't even have that many interesting cities from a tourism standpoint compared to other countries. If you removed WDW and Universal from the equation, there'd be very little reason for any tourists to ever visit Orlando.

But yeah. There probably are people who think Orlando is the best place.
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A very, very small number of tourists are actually there for Orlando as a city. They are there for the parks, or the resorts, or the sun. I don't even know if I've ever really been to Orlando proper... Can we really even say Orlando is a top 50 US city?

I don't think WDW is the pinnacle, but it's also hard to argue it does not have its place, still has a reasonable amount of unique features and sheer impressiveness of scale. Universal Orlando meanwhile is pretty much their full showcase of their product, making it really hard for me to justify to people that any other Universal Park is honestly worth visiting more than once or if at all.

I've wondered for years why people go to Tokyo Disneyland or HK Disneyland and don't even bother checking out the cities... but now I maybe understand why. Orlando has normalized that behaviour.
 
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UNCgolf

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MadTeacup said:
My Aunt and Uncle are those weird people who LOVE visiting Orlando, but almost never visit the parks. (I have a strange family, guys.) They come to Orlando every winter to enjoy a warm, sunny resort and to visit all of the amazing small towns around the area such as Mt. Dora, Winter Haven, Winter Park, Winter Garden, etc. Meanwhile, here I am living in Orlando, a city I truthfully don't care for very much (no offense to those who love it), simply because I love what I do and I can't do it anywhere else. It honestly shouldn't rank high on a list of destination cities because as a city itself, its culture is lacking. However, I disagree that the US is lacking in interesting cities. There are many cities in the US with just as much charm and culture as the great cities of other countries. I love visiting Europe, but seeing the culture of the US is every bit as appealing to me.
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It wasn't really a knock on the US -- it's a simple result of being a relatively young country. NYC, Chicago, Boston, Washington DC, Los Angeles, New Orleans, and San Francisco are all places worth visiting. Philadelphia probably makes that list too, but I've only been when I was very young so I don't have personal experience. There aren't really any other relatively large cities in the US that have a significant draw from a tourist standpoint. There are certainly other places in the US worth visiting for tourists, but they aren't destination cities.

Compare that to much smaller countries like the UK and Italy and there are just as many if not more large (relatively speaking to the size of the country) cities worth visiting for various reasons -- especially if you have any interest in history. Of course if history isn't something that interests you it might be a different story, but the culture still tends to vary far more in European cities than it does in American ones. That's not to say there aren't cultural differences between American cities, but the differences are generally on a smaller scale.
 
UNCgolf

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BrianLo said:
A very, very small number of tourists are actually there for Orlando as a city. They are there for the parks, or the resorts, or the sun. I don't even know if I've ever really been to Orlando proper... Can we really even say Orlando is a top 50 US city?
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Exactly. And going for the sun is a bit strange when there are many other places to go, even just in Florida, that have both the sun and other things (like a beach).

Orlando probably is a top 50 US city, but once you reach a certain point on the list US cities become relatively interchangeable.
 
BrianLo

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TrainChasers said:
Universal Hollywood is VERY much worth visiting for the studio tour alone.
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I did hesitate saying that because it's more like a generic Universal park grafted onto a very worthwhile attraction. That was the one I meant by once.

It remains my least preferred Uni Park, but I acknowledge the tour is great.
 
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J4546

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my gf used to work at hollywood universal and got free tix so i went a bunch. I think the location of universal is amazing, and the views it offers on the escalators between the upper and lower lots is incredible and unlike anything else anywhere. The park itself is ok. The tram tour is top notch though, def worth it. I also love the Water World show, Harry Potter land is well themed and the ride is amazing even though it makes me feel sick. and the jurassic park ride is very good. Mummy, transformers, simpsons land and minions area are all meh. I cant wait to see what they do with simpsons land now that disney owns simpsons, what direction they will take it. Also the addition of Nintendo land will def give it a bump, but even still it feels very lacking compared to disney. I wish theyd go nuts and spend a billion dollars on it and buildout a new monsters themed area and more...but thats highly unlikely.
 
JoeCamel

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marni1971 said:
Tron also suffers from an awful lot of nothing post final brakes.

This project is wrong for the MK for so many reasons but hey. coaster.
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Maybe they look at it as a progression Dumbo<Barnstormer<Tron<Space. You have a ride for all phases of your life lined up from left to right looking from the hub
 
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Giss Neric said:
Tron and Velocicoaster basically have the same ride duration but Velocicoaster actually feels longer due to the inversions while Tron has a lot of mid brakes.

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From the videos, Velocicoaster starts strong, stays strong and ends strong. Tron felt like it was building up to something more than delivered and ended prematurely. Or the coaster section would be fine in Tron if Disney had included a few dark ride scenes between coaster parts. In some ways Tron reminds me of how Universal's Mummy would be if it was the coaster parts only with a launch shortly after loading, but with more elaborate sets.
 
JoeCamel

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MurphyJoe said:
From the videos, Velocicoaster starts strong, stays strong and ends strong. Tron felt like it was building up to something more than delivered and ended prematurely. Or the coaster section would be fine in Tron if Disney had included a few dark ride scenes between coaster parts. In some ways Tron reminds me of how Universal's Mummy would be if it was the coaster parts only with a launch shortly after loading, but with more elaborate sets.
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I would argue what you see from the Velocicoaster will be miles above the Tron scenery. I love riding Hulk and Hagrids at night.
 

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