News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

[Buried20KLeague]

It does seem insane that the ride needs a box that large when part of it is outside and the whole thing lasts less than a minute. Feels like a "we have enough space that we don't need to bother being efficient with it" and who cares if it's a long term waste.

Slinky Dog Dash has a similar problem minus the box. It takes up a tremendous amount of space. They could have designed it differently and left enough room for numerous other things so that the land wouldn't feel so sparse. Its footprint isn't that much smaller than the entire guest facing area of Galaxy's Edge (not including the ride buildings), and I think it's all unusable for the future because of the way the ride is designed. It just feels like a gigantic waste of land.

There’s a LOT of interior que space. In Shanghai essentially the whole que is indoors. In WDW you’ll probably have to wait 80 mins just to get to the entrance of the indoor que.

 

[Marc Davis Fan]

don’t be so sure. Twice the wait of dwarves (I guarantee it) for even less ride time? It’s going to tick a lot of people off.

we got as much or more enjoyment just standing under the canopy watching the light show at night and the train go around the outdoor loop as we did riding it, and that was with short Shanghai waits.

the ride is a fun launch, the outdoor portion is fun, and then the interior is a less extreme and shorter rock n roller coaster without the loops or good music.

This is similar to my reaction after riding it in Shanghai.

I'd compare it to Na'vi River Journey in the sense that it's a really worthwhile experience if you have a FP+ for it, but it's disappointing if you waited in a long queue for it. In both cases, the "queue-time to ride-time ratio" is the big problem.

Honestly, they could have doubled guest satisfaction for this attraction if they simply extended the ride time. They could've cut the outdoor portion (which makes no thematic sense anyway, since you're supposed to be "inside the grid"), and instead added a second indoor launch to double the ride time and maintain the same ride capacity. Then it would've gotten great GSR.

I wouldn't quite compare the inside to RnRC, though. RnRC features 2D cartoon images (that you ride past in old-fashioned, restrictive vehicles). T:LCR features "real" sets and good lighting effects, which actually contribute to a cognizable story (and which you ride past in impressive vehicles that contribute to the story).

Anyway, as long as they plant enough trees-on-a-little-berm-near-SBC, at least it's not as much of an eyesore from throughout the park and across the lagoon as I originally worried it would be, making it probably still a net positive for the park...

 

[marni1971]

T:LCR features "real" sets

??

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

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Is that in reference to wondering what T:LCR stands for (TRON: Lightcycle Run - though officially it's TRON: Lightcycle Power Run), or what "real" sets means (why put it in quotes)? By which I guess they just mean there's a sense of a tactile physical environment in TRON that moves beyond the Blacklight Cutouts of Rock N' Roller Coaster, even if it's not fully realized in a traditional manner.

 

[SilentWindODoom]

Since the day it was announced, I've said it's facing the completely wrong way.

In Shanghai you can stand in the hub and clearly see the length of the canopy. It draws you to the land.

In WDW you'll only see the end of the canopy from most angles in the park, and it'll be hidden in most cases.

This entire thing was shoehorned in a horrible spot, rushed to greenlight because the design was already paid for. It was a nice ride, but it's STUPIDLY short. It should have been redesigned and placed better if they wanted to bring it into WDW. This whole thing is a mistake the way they did it.

In Shanghai the building is more visible from worse places. The current positioning is possibly the least intrusive way. If they'd angled it differently, the box would have probably dwarfed Space Mountain from within the park.

To be fair, the old pathway from TL to Storybook Circus will become a Tomorrowland expansion, so there will be new views of TRON from the land.

Given the proximity of TRON to Barnstormer, I’ll be curious to see how the pull off the transition between two rides that couldn’t possibly be any more different thematically. Not much room for sensory tickles. Surely they can do better than the other Tomorrowland-Fantasyland transition where you see Mad Tea Party behind Sonny Eclipse.

Imagineers didn’t get EVERYTHING right in the ‘70s...

This is one of the things that has bothered me the most, the idea that things were once perfect and this shows a degradation of values. That happens a lot. Maintenance, improvements, the view of some older attractions, the Orlando view that millions of one-time-ever guests means there's no need to innovate. But this isn't one of them because they were letting things slip all the time. We remember the triumphs like the Contemporary Tower over Tomorrowland or the Matterhorn tree, but I posted the skyway pics for a reason. People mention not wanting to lower standards, but I'm just holding them to the same standard as their heyday.

The other problem is the music in the area.

In Shanghai the whole Tomorrowland area music is much more techno and it’s loud and pumps. It works with the high tech looking canopy.

what are they gonna do in WDW? Update all of Tomorrowland’s music (they better not)? Play the loud techno only by tron which will bleed and cause a problem in the areas around it? Simply play the normal Tomorrowland music and not have the techno pumping?

it’s gonna be jarring, no matter the choice they make,

To get to Tron, you have to travel past the old arcade and below the TTA track before walking a hundred feet or so to the canopy. You'll get it on the back half of the speedway and the ride into Space Mountain on the Peoplemover while the voiceover is telling you "That's Tron over there"?

 

[marni1971]

Is that in reference to wondering what T:LCR stands for (TRON: Lightcycle Run - though officially it's TRON: Lightcycle Power Run), or what "real" sets means (why put it in quotes)? By which I guess they just mean there's a sense of a tactile physical environment in TRON that moves beyond the Blacklight Cutouts of Rock N' Roller Coaster, even if it's not fully realized in a traditional manner.

“Real“ set.

 

[Movielover]

or good music.

Woah woah woah wait a minute...

You don't like Daft Punk?

 

[MisterPenguin]

Woah woah woah wait a minute...

You don't like Daft Punk?

Two demerits for not ending that with, "... are you daft, punk?"

 

[Movielover]

"Ugh... It's another punk..."

 

[HauntedMansionFLA]

Woah woah woah wait a minute...

You don't like Daft Punk?

I liked their collaboration with Paul Williams

 

[Movielover]

I liked their collaboration with Paul Williams

 

[GimpYancIent]

There’s a LOT of interior que space. In Shanghai essentially the whole que is indoors. In WDW you’ll probably have to wait 80 mins just to get to the entrance of the indoor que.

A lot of referencing to SD. First off SD is in China, gag, yuk. The WDW TRON is set into a classic environment of attractions spanning decades and will be different! I am curious to see how it all works when complete and the guests reactions to it. Here in the U.S. not at some spin off copy park that Disney has less than a half stake in.

 

[MadTeacup]

A lot of referencing to SD. First off SD is in China, gag, yuk. The WDW TRON is set into a classic environment of attractions spanning decades and will be different! I am curious to see how it all works when complete and the guests reactions to it. Here in the U.S. not at some spin off copy park that Disney has less than a half stake in.

You understand that minus the dialogue and the approach to the entrance, this is LITERALLY the exact same ride as the one at SD, correct? If you're talking more about the guest reaction, I do feel that people are underestimating the guest satisfaction scores it will receive. It's not the ride Magic Kingdom deserves or needs, but it IS a new coaster with pretty lights. As much as I would love to be wrong because I honestly think it's a flawed attraction and a poor choice for MK, I think it is going to be well-received by the general public. I only hope they don't waste any precious land in Disneyland on another clone.

 

[Buried20KLeague]

Woah woah woah wait a minute...

You don't like Daft Punk?

it ain’t Aerosmith.

 

[Buried20KLeague]

A lot of referencing to SD. First off SD is in China, gag, yuk. The WDW TRON is set into a classic environment of attractions spanning decades and will be different! I am curious to see how it all works when complete and the guests reactions to it. Here in the U.S. not at some spin off copy park that Disney has less than a half stake in.

That’s... not how this works.

 

[GimpYancIent]

That’s... not how this works.

Uhhhh, sure, ok, if you say so. I want to see the finished product in the WDW MK setting w the MKWDRR fully operational and how it all blends together. I do not care about how it all works at SD.

 

[Buried20KLeague]

Uhhhh, sure, ok, if you say so. I want to see the finished product in the WDW MK setting w the MKWDRR fully operational and how it all blends together. I do not care about how it all works at SD.

it’s an exact clone, turned sideways. Find one person that says otherwise (besides you).

and you clearly have a lot to learn about the world outside of the US (like most Americans) and what Disney parks in those countries are like. Visit them all multiple times (like me) and get back to me.

Until then, keep enjoying the worst space mountain and pirates on the planet.

 

[GimpYancIent]

it’s an exact clone, turned sideways. Find one person that says otherwise (besides you).

and you clearly have a lot to learn about the world outside of the US (like most Americans) and what Disney parks in those countries are like. Visit them all multiple times (like me) and get back to me.

Until then, keep enjoying the worst space mountain and pirates on the planet.

Well you assume a lot. The most Americans comment says a lot about you. As for me I can talk, been there done that, no brag just fact. I see it differently than you. Oh well! Have a wonderful day.

 

[BrianLo]

I thought Guest satisfaction for it was high in Shanghai?

I totally agree though it won't be worth the wait times that it will command in MK, which is more the problem. But one could say the same about SDMT and Slinky - so I'd be surprised if the general reaction is as bad as people are predicting.

I too think it will be a net positive. But MK needs (way) more.

 

[BubbaisSleep]

agree though it won't be worth the wait times that it will command in MK, which is more the problem. But one could say the same about SDMT and Slinky - so I'd be surprised if the general reaction is as bad as people are predicting.

I do hope that Tron will help alleviate the queue times of the other coasters in the park. Since Space is the only big coaster in the park it commands all the attention. But as a DLR local, I throws me off that the biggest coaster in the park resembles our old coaster called Matterhorn. I feel like opening a much modern coaster like Tron will take a huge load off of Space, which would be awesome as I still love the ride.

It certainly works for DLR due to the proximity. I loved when RSR opened as the wait time for Space was always long after its 2005 redo. But after RSR opened, Space has always had a decent queue time during my summer & winter visits (outside of overlays). Space would easily reach 2 hours everyday before RSR but now even on busy days I see 40-75 mins.