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News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

MadTeacup

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Is that enough work done to be able to finally open the train back up??
I haven't seen anyone confirm either way, but I seriously hope the train tunnel is part of the canopy phase of construction. It would be extremely disappointing to start the 50th Anniversary of the Magic Kingdom with the WDWRR out of commission. My hope is that they've resumed track work in Fantasyland because they intend to complete the loop and reopen the train very soon.
 

GimpYancIent

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I haven't seen anyone confirm either way, but I seriously hope the train tunnel is part of the canopy phase of construction. It would be extremely disappointing to start the 50th Anniversary of the Magic Kingdom with the WDWRR out of commission. My hope is that they've resumed track work in Fantasyland because they intend to complete the loop and reopen the train very soon.
Yes. Get WDWRR up and running. TRON can wait.
 

J4546

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I hope so too, i hope the get the canopy all done, then finish the concrete for the que/pathways around and then get the train running again. Theres still a lot to do for the pathways and Im still not exactly sure what its gonna look like and how the train is gonna pass through though
 

etc98

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ok, so I took a bunch of pictures to address some of the things that've come up on here. I tried to take pictures to make people as mad as possible. Two caveats. One, PeopleMover (WEDway or TTA, your choice) was closed. So I'm sure some offensive shots were missed. Secondly, I did not go on Astro Orbiter. It was cold (probably 50s at ground level) and personally I put that on the Skyway level of "ok, it's high, you're seeing all sorts of ugly stuff. get over it."

My personal TLDR: Views from inside Tomorrowland aren't bad at all. Views from the hub are minimally impactful. Views from Storybook Circus (particularly the Barnstormer queue) are pretty awful.

Here we go...

from the ferry:

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from the hub:

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Speedway entrance:


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(you cannot see from Cosmic Ray's front)

On the Speedway:

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These egregious abominations we somehow lived with for decades:
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interior Tomorrowland:

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What surprises me the most is how little you actually see it from Tomorrowland. At least in these photos even the canopy is hidden away and barely sticks up above the people mover tracks. It is a cool view from the speedway, but that seems like the only place you can really get a good view of it.

Unless there are better views of it from Tomorrowland that I just haven’t seen yet, it almost seems like it’s easier to see the gravity building from in the park than the canopy, and that’s just tragic
 

ToTBellHop

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What surprises me the most is how little you actually see it from Tomorrowland. At least in these photos even the canopy is hidden away and barely sticks up above the people mover tracks. It is a cool view from the speedway, but that seems like the only place you can really get a good view of it.

Unless there are better views of it from Tomorrowland that I just haven’t seen yet, it almost seems like it’s easier to see the gravity building from in the park than the canopy, and that’s just tragic
To be fair, the old pathway from TL to Storybook Circus will become a Tomorrowland expansion, so there will be new views of TRON from the land.

Given the proximity of TRON to Barnstormer, I’ll be curious to see how the pull off the transition between two rides that couldn’t possibly be any more different thematically. Not much room for sensory tickles. Surely they can do better than the other Tomorrowland-Fantasyland transition where you see Mad Tea Party behind Sonny Eclipse.

Imagineers didn’t get EVERYTHING right in the ‘70s...
 

corran horn

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What surprises me the most is how little you actually see it from Tomorrowland. At least in these photos even the canopy is hidden away and barely sticks up above the people mover tracks. It is a cool view from the speedway, but that seems like the only place you can really get a good view of it.

Unless there are better views of it from Tomorrowland that I just haven’t seen yet, it almost seems like it’s easier to see the gravity building from in the park than the canopy, and that’s just tragic

The flatness of Tomorrowland and the amount of tall 'weenies' block most of the views of the building, in my experience.

Again, TTA and Rocket Tower plaza break that some but I didn't take pictures of that.
 

Buried20KLeague

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What surprises me the most is how little you actually see it from Tomorrowland. At least in these photos even the canopy is hidden away and barely sticks up above the people mover tracks. It is a cool view from the speedway, but that seems like the only place you can really get a good view of it.

Unless there are better views of it from Tomorrowland that I just haven’t seen yet, it almost seems like it’s easier to see the gravity building from in the park than the canopy, and that’s just tragic


Since the day it was announced, I've said it's facing the completely wrong way.

In Shanghai you can stand in the hub and clearly see the length of the canopy. It draws you to the land.

In WDW you'll only see the end of the canopy from most angles in the park, and it'll be hidden in most cases.

This entire thing was shoehorned in a horrible spot, rushed to greenlight because the design was already paid for. It was a nice ride, but it's STUPIDLY short. It should have been redesigned and placed better if they wanted to bring it into WDW. This whole thing is a mistake the way they did it.
 

corran horn

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Since the day it was announced, I've said it's facing the completely wrong way.

In Shanghai you can stand in the hub and clearly see the length of the canopy. It draws you to the land.

In WDW you'll only see the end of the canopy from most angles in the park, and it'll be hidden in most cases.

This entire thing was shoehorned in a horrible spot, rushed to greenlight because the design was already paid for. It was a nice ride, but it's STUPIDLY short. It should have been redesigned and placed better if they wanted to bring it into WDW. This whole thing is a mistake the way they did it.
I'm excited about it. I'm sure I'll love it. I'm happy to see anything TRON.

But you're probably right.
 

MadTeacup

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Given the proximity of TRON to Barnstormer, I’ll be curious to see how the pull off the transition between two rides that couldn’t possibly be any more different thematically. Not much room for sensory tickles. Surely they can do better than the other Tomorrowland-Fantasyland transition where you see Mad Tea Party behind Sonny Eclipse.

Imagineers didn’t get EVERYTHING right in the ‘70s...
I mean... Tron is basically a tent in front of a box and that's what most of Storybook Circus is. Perhaps one could make the argument that Tron is actually an expansion of Fantasyland and not Tomorrowland if it's viewed as an arcade at a circus. The design of the building disrupts the aesthetics of both lands equally, anyway.

And while I see your point, I would also argue that Tomorrowland '71 was less story driven and therefore it was not as relevant what the view was from the Cosmic Ray's building in 1971 because it was not set in a Space Port. To be clear though, I DO agree with you.
 
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Buried20KLeague

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I'm excited about it. I'm sure I'll love it. I'm happy to see anything TRON.

But you're probably right.

don’t be so sure. Twice the wait of dwarves (I guarantee it) for even less ride time? It’s going to tick a lot of people off.

we got as much or more enjoyment just standing under the canopy watching the light show at night and the train go around the outdoor loop as we did riding it, and that was with short Shanghai waits.

the ride is a fun launch, the outdoor portion is fun, and then the interior is a less extreme and shorter rock n roller coaster without the loops or good music.
 

UNCgolf

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And yet it still needs a giant box with an attached canopy to house it. Like GotG, you have to wonder if it's the best use of space.

It does seem silly that the ride needs a box that large when part of it is outside and the whole thing lasts less than a minute. Feels like a "we have enough space that we don't need to bother being efficient with it" and who cares if it's a long term waste.

Slinky Dog Dash has a similar problem minus the box. It takes up a tremendous amount of space. They could have designed it differently and left enough room for numerous other things so that the land wouldn't feel so sparse. Its footprint isn't that much smaller than the entire guest facing area of Galaxy's Edge (not including the ride buildings), and I think it's all unusable for the future because of the way the ride is designed. It just feels like a gigantic waste of land for what is an almost off the shelf roller coaster. It's not like SDD is an incredible can't be missed E-ticket.
 
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Buried20KLeague

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The other problem is the music in the area.

In Shanghai the whole Tomorrowland area music is much more techno and it’s loud and pumps. It works with the high tech looking canopy.

what are they gonna do in WDW? Update all of Tomorrowland’s music (they better not)? Play the loud techno only by tron which will bleed and cause a problem in the areas around it? Simply play the normal Tomorrowland music and not have the techno pumping?

it’s gonna be jarring, no matter the choice they make,
 

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