bhg469
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I feel like all themed coasters should be kind of grouped equally. they are mostly all great though. Between all the Orlando parks in glad they are all pretty ridable for all of them even for a chicken like me.
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News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom
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Casper Gutman
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Posters keep claiming that GotG should get extra coaster-points for “theming,” but even many of its champions admit the theming on the ride is a lackluster afterthought that misses the point of the IP. There really is nothing wrong with just enjoying the physical sensation of a ride. Whether that qualifies it as one of the best rides at WDW…
Casper Gutman
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I don’t think even Disney is claiming it’s the longest indoor coaster, they’re claiming it’s “one of” the longest coasters - which means they don’t believe it is the longest. I don’t personally know of a longer indoor coaster, however.
danlb_2000
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According to the Internet Roller Coaster database it is the longest indoor coaster. It is the 9th longest steel coaster overall and the longest indoor one.
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Disney Analyst
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I have found it odd that they haven't committed to it being the longest.
yensidtlaw1969
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I have to assume they know something we don't. There's no good reason they wouldn't call it the longest if they believed it was, and every good reason to call it the longest if they did.
You don't tell people you made it to the Top 5 when you actually came in 1st Place, you know?
I have a Busch Gardens publicity poster from 1996 proudly proclaiming Montu as the world's largest inverted coaster. That lasted one season.
No Name
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My only theory is that because it’s not the longest in terms of duration, and Revenge of The Mummy is “longer”, this was the result of compromise during arbitration with Universal.
Probably not true but it’s the only thing that would make sense to me.
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michaelmickey
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Nice update..
As thought, they have unboxed the new foundations and wall by the tunnel..
They will probably add the wooden frame for the new curved wall under people mover this week or next week.
They have still half the drop-curved wall to frame and pour concrete to finish it.
At the back, they are still working on the wall next to the hangar.. I think they are pouring the concrete there before moving on to the small wall next to it circling the canopy pillar..
They have started the frame for the small low wall for the "garden" next to the tunnel..
they are really into the final touches before starting cosmetic work..
Hopefully all finish by the end of the month!
I am not sure, but it really looks like the small building at the back is moving along nicely..
It would be good to get pictures from the fantasyland side.....
About the entrance... still working slowly on those transparent plexi added to the skeleton of the internal frame..
And sadly... NOTHING going on on the tomorrow light and power building.
Who thinks this attraction will open next October/November?
I am hoping for an announcement on 9th of July for TRON 40th anniversary... perhaps at least mentioning Fall 2022 or Winter 2022 or 2023, and then a specific date on D23 event.
As thought, they have unboxed the new foundations and wall by the tunnel..
They will probably add the wooden frame for the new curved wall under people mover this week or next week.
They have still half the drop-curved wall to frame and pour concrete to finish it.
At the back, they are still working on the wall next to the hangar.. I think they are pouring the concrete there before moving on to the small wall next to it circling the canopy pillar..
They have started the frame for the small low wall for the "garden" next to the tunnel..
they are really into the final touches before starting cosmetic work..
Hopefully all finish by the end of the month!
I am not sure, but it really looks like the small building at the back is moving along nicely..
It would be good to get pictures from the fantasyland side.....
About the entrance... still working slowly on those transparent plexi added to the skeleton of the internal frame..
And sadly... NOTHING going on on the tomorrow light and power building.
Who thinks this attraction will open next October/November?
I am hoping for an announcement on 9th of July for TRON 40th anniversary... perhaps at least mentioning Fall 2022 or Winter 2022 or 2023, and then a specific date on D23 event.
ToTBellHop
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I find it very strange that they are not claiming the "longest indoor roller coaster on earth" award loudly and proudly. They obviously have it by a long-shot. If we believe that length, it is also the longest coaster in Florida.
Disney Glimpses
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They sell the experience, not the technology. Almost all of Disney's E-tickets are the first use of that technology.
ToTBellHop
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Sure, but it is worth pointing out a record-breaking coaster. They used to market RnRC’s “0 to 60 in 2.8 flat” launch and that wasn’t even a record.
Next Big Thing
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They did originally market this as the largest indoor coaster. They haven't in awhile, but they have done it.
Disney Glimpses
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Interesting, I hadn't seen that
Next Big Thing
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This tweet was put out on a Disney media day for example:
However in May of this year, it somehow turned into "One of the largest indoor coasters in the world", when, if the track length is correct, it almost doubles up on the previous record.
JMcMahonEsq
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For a large measure in this sue first, ask questions later mindset, its generally safer to not market items based upon objective criteria. Biggest, Fastest, Longest can be subject to interpretation, and suit which lets face it Disney is a deep pocket that would typically have to settle cases out of court for nuisance value.
As for the ride itself, we got to ride it 2 (and a couple of us 3 times) on Sunday and everyone thought it was an amazing ride. The experience itself will market the ride. Disney never has been a park looking for extremes. It seeks to market to the mass market/most people possible. Marketing like Highest Coaster, Fastest Coaster, Most inversions, are for parks like Six Flags, or Cedar Knowes that are looking for Roller Coaster enthusiasts. Thats why people go to those parks. Disney doesn't need to market for that crowd, but also likely doesn't want to. While some people want to ride the fastest or highest roller coaster, you will get multiple people who say "That ride is faster than X....I am not going on that." or "That ride is higher than Y, thats too high for the kids yet"
As for the ride itself, we got to ride it 2 (and a couple of us 3 times) on Sunday and everyone thought it was an amazing ride. The experience itself will market the ride. Disney never has been a park looking for extremes. It seeks to market to the mass market/most people possible. Marketing like Highest Coaster, Fastest Coaster, Most inversions, are for parks like Six Flags, or Cedar Knowes that are looking for Roller Coaster enthusiasts. Thats why people go to those parks. Disney doesn't need to market for that crowd, but also likely doesn't want to. While some people want to ride the fastest or highest roller coaster, you will get multiple people who say "That ride is faster than X....I am not going on that." or "That ride is higher than Y, thats too high for the kids yet"
lazyboy97o
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Longest is an objective criteria and nobody would have standing to sue even if there was some question. This is definitely up there for nonsense concocted to reflexively defend Disney.
JMcMahonEsq
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I wasn't trying to defend Disney here at all. There is no reason to. Nor did I really try. They pay a ton of marketers a hell of a lot of money to come up with a market/ad campaign, and considering the crowds and attendance that they get, i take their approach over the armchair internet warriors here. Neither Disney nor I consider the unsupportable ramblings of internet nerds to be "attacks" worth defending. Disney markets things how the data and marketing companies tell them to I will give them the benefit of the doubt on how they decide to do it.
Second legal standing only requires a plaintiff to show they have some personal interest that has been impacted by the defendant. It's a threshold that is so low it can generally be crawled over rather than needing to be hurdled. The bevy of tinfoil hat wearing plaintiffs could be 1) people who spent money to ride the "longest" indoor coaster only to find out that laugh track in Hershey is 2ft longer, or that one in butthurt Iowa is 30sec longer ride time, ect.
Similarly operators in butthurt who now have people not following their roadway signs proclaiming the longest indoor roller coaster in the world b/c Disney said GofG is longer could also file claims.
Third, It's not just about being right, its about not wanting to spend the time/money/effort to actually do the research to find out if GotG actually is the longest indoor coaster in the world. Have they investigated every park, done any due diligence to make sure some German park off the autobahn doesn't have a longer track or longer ride time attraction? Having done legal review for several of my companies subsidiaries advertisements and press releases, the first thing we red line are claims about achievements, size and "objective" standards. Longest bridge in North America, did anyone verify that? Tallest building in Panama, well did you go out and get the measuring tape on each one? Many times, there hasn't been any due diligence to substantiate the claim and it's not worth the BS to put something out that can later be fact checked and proven wrong. Hell forget lawsuits just the PR nightmare of having some internet troll come out with the indoor park in France that has a foot longer track and how Disney doesn't know what its talking about is enough reason to not advertise it as "longest" anything.
Would Disney still win the lawsuits? I would be willing to almost certainly bet yes. Could they get them kicked on a motion to dismiss? Maybe/maybe not. But none of that matters b/c why bother exposing yourself to the suit if you don't have to? If you haven't noticed marketing in general today is risk averse to almost a lampooning size. If anything has a chance to offend someone or open your company up to even nuisance level litigation, you avoid it at all costs.
