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News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

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J4546

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tron is gonna be awesome, im loving the pathway work im seeing so far with the curved concrete, I think that area will be pretty spectacular when its done. Also I get having tron so close to SM is weird but where else would it go? Not AK, Possibly Epcot cause I could see them doing some "digital pavilion" thing kinda like how they made GotG "fit" but they got GotG, so that leave MK and DHS. DHS seems like the obvious first choice but if you think about how huge tron is with not just the building and canopy but with pathway work that needs to flow up to the entrance 20ft off the ground because the coaster launches from under it, it just takes so much space and they would have to either dedicate most of the NW expansion to it or maybe get rid of the INDY show and put the area there. So MK is the logical choice because it adds to an area where there was nothing before and fits the aesthetic.... andwill hopefully kickstart a renovation of TL
 
SplashJacket

SplashJacket

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Touchdown said:
Let me know when Guardians gets on a best coasters in the world list or even one in America. It’s not even in the top 5 in Orlando. Heck personally it’s not even the best indoor roller coaster in Orlando (The Mummy.). It is however the best roller coaster to ever been built in Epcot.

It’s also not going to win the Golden Ticket for best new coaster this year either. Your statements go against the general concencus of the enthusiast community. That’s fine for you to have that opinion but it’s not right to extrapolate it out that it’s a majority consensus.
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I would say it's easily the best Disney coaster built to date. Mummy isn't anywhere near the level of Guardians, not even comparable.

I'm not sure if I'm not making myself clear, but I do not think Guardians is the best coaster in the world. I do not think Guardians is the best coaster in Orlando.

But for someone whose primary desire from a coaster is not extreme thrills, but an indoor-themed environment, Guardians could easily be the best in the world to them.

For 99% of self-proclaimed coaster enthusiasts, Guardians will not be their best in the world coaster. But for a certain subset of coaster consumers, Guardians will be the best.

If you've read my last five posts (four of which just reiterated things from the first), this should be clear, and if not, that’s my bad.

5% of enthusiasts might see Steel Vengeance as their favorite because they love RMC coasters. Another 5% might see Fury 325 because they love B&M Gigas. To a small subset of people in the coaster community, I think (after having four rides) Guardians could be the best coaster in the world to them. In my mind, Guardians trumps every previous Disney coaster by a significant margin. Tron, by contrast, does not accomplish such a feat, I wouldn’t even argue it was the best Disney coaster at its original Shanghai opening.

As I defined in a previous post, I think a coaster is a world’s best contender if it excels in its specific category. Guardians does that. If you polled every coaster enthusiast in the world, there’s no way Guardians would be the consensus world’s best, because it’s not what most enthusiasts are looking for. But with something as subjective as “best,” Guardians can absolutely be the world’s best coaster to a lot of people.

There is no world’s best coaster, because that can never be truly determined. If you stepped every enthusiast to every coaster in the world and then polled them, a traditional vote and a rank-choice system would wield varying results.

I made a seemingly simple claim that Guardians could be the best coaster in the world (I personally don’t think it is), which resulted in a stream of responses about how Guardians isn’t what coaster enthusiasts want.

Moral of the story, it’s an elite, game changing coaster in a way that rides like Tron or RNRC (great coasters) are not.
 
Jrb1979

Jrb1979

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Rteetz said:
It’s not the most thrilling coaster but not every coaster has to be. My question tho was to prove that @Jrb1979 is jumping to conclusions without having actually being on it.
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Wow man. It's ok for posters to say exactly what I said but cause I said its an issue. You've had issues with me since the Dis board days and I have never done anything wrong.
 
Disney Glimpses

Disney Glimpses

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J4546 said:
"best" coaster or not, I see GotG as a major positive addition Epcot overall. Feel the same about Tron.
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A bit more on "best":

Disney is more often than not one of the "best" at many, many things (if not the best). But that aside, people often fall in love with things that even they themselves do not view as the "best." That's the real Disney magic.

If you ask people what their favorite ride is, more often than not it's not the ride that they view as the "best" ride.
 
Incomudro

Incomudro

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bhg469 said:
I've been in it twice and you know how I know it's not a good coaster? Because I like it. No drops and no airtime is what coaster fans dislike. As someone who hates those things it's my kind of ride.
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I don't think we can really judge a coaster like this by the criteria other coasters are judged.
I guess it can be judged alongside enclosed, themed coasters.
Even there, these things differ in there approach and goals.
 
Disney Analyst

Disney Analyst

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J4546 said:
"best" coaster or not, I see GotG as a major positive addition Epcot overall. Feel the same about Tron.
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I would also add, this never needed to be the "Best" coaster, which is subjective at best.

This needed to be long, high capacity, with some thrill, and impressive views. It nails all those points IMO. Especially considering it is allegedly the longest indoor coaster in the world.
 
bhg469

bhg469

Well-Known Member
Incomudro said:
I don't think we can really judge a coaster like this by the criteria other coasters are judged.
I guess it can be judged alongside enclosed, themed coasters.
Even there, these things differ in there approach and goals.
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I feel like all themed coasters should be kind of grouped equally. they are mostly all great though. Between all the Orlando parks in glad they are all pretty ridable for all of them even for a chicken like me.
 
Casper Gutman

Casper Gutman

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Incomudro said:
I don't think we can really judge a coaster like this by the criteria other coasters are judged.
I guess it can be judged alongside enclosed, themed coasters.
Even there, these things differ in there approach and goals.
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Posters keep claiming that GotG should get extra coaster-points for “theming,” but even many of its champions admit the theming on the ride is a lackluster afterthought that misses the point of the IP. There really is nothing wrong with just enjoying the physical sensation of a ride. Whether that qualifies it as one of the best rides at WDW…
 
Casper Gutman

Casper Gutman

Well-Known Member
Disney Analyst said:
I would also add, this never needed to be the "Best" coaster, which is subjective at best.

This needed to be long, high capacity, with some thrill, and impressive views. It nails all those points IMO. Especially considering it is allegedly the longest indoor coaster in the world.
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I don’t think even Disney is claiming it’s the longest indoor coaster, they’re claiming it’s “one of” the longest coasters - which means they don’t believe it is the longest. I don’t personally know of a longer indoor coaster, however.
 
danlb_2000

danlb_2000

Premium Member
Casper Gutman said:
I don’t think even Disney is claiming it’s the longest indoor coaster, they’re claiming it’s “one of” the longest coasters - which means they don’t believe it is the longest. I don’t personally know of a longer indoor coaster, however.
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According to the Internet Roller Coaster database it is the longest indoor coaster. It is the 9th longest steel coaster overall and the longest indoor one.

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yensidtlaw1969

yensidtlaw1969

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Disney Analyst said:
I have found it odd that they haven't committed to it being the longest.
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I have to assume they know something we don't. There's no good reason they wouldn't call it the longest if they believed it was, and every good reason to call it the longest if they did.

You don't tell people you made it to the Top 5 when you actually came in 1st Place, you know?
 

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