News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

UNCgolf

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DLP really does look stunning in photographs.

It really does.

I'm certainly not at the level of Disney fandom as some others on this forum. I don't visit WDW that often and I've never had any desire to take a trip specifically to see one of the other parks -- not that I'm opposed to seeing them (far from it); just that if I'm going to those places there are too many other things I want to see/experience first. I've now been to LA enough that Disneyland is probably in the queue for a visit next time I'm there, but although I have spent time in Paris, there's still a long list of things ahead of DLP whenever I go back.

With that said, I hope I eventually spend enough time in Paris that I feel okay about taking a day or two to visit DLP. It just looks fantastic.
 

JoeCamel

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You can see how far out the top of the tunnel extends today -


I want to see an engine coming out of FL station with a full train pour the oil to it to gather speed for the grade ahead. Should be an interesting sight for those on the walkways.
Or maybe they took advantage of the downtime and converted the fleet to battery/electric so it just goes swoooshhh
 

fgmnt

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I want to see an engine coming out of FL station with a full train pour the oil to it to gather speed for the grade ahead. Should be an interesting sight for those on the walkways.
Or maybe they took advantage of the downtime and converted the fleet to battery/electric so it just goes swoooshhh
I believe they sent the trains out to get a traditional refurb, no?

Genuinely, there is value in the company making it a third rail electric train while making it look like a steam engine for show, but this company will not do it.
 

Anteater

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I believe they sent the trains out to get a traditional refurb, no?

Genuinely, there is value in the company making it a third rail electric train while making it look like a steam engine for show, but this company will not do it.
there may be cost savings. But, I'd say the conversion lose a lot of interest by fans. The sounds and smells of a traditional locomotive is unmistakable. The only thing missing on WDWRR is genuine coal burning like they are at Dollywood. But, you've got to cut them some slack; WDWRR was never coal driven.

Guess you could make it into a nuclear powered time machine. But, that's the wrong park!
 

EricsBiscuit

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The train has low capacity and they've been dealing without that walkway for years. There's no reason for a mad rush to get those things back. I'd argue that the state of Future World (World Celebration) has a much greater impact.
WDWRR has a great capacity (375 per train, 20 minute loops, 3 train operation on a busy day) and is very popular.
 

Patcheslee

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there may be cost savings. But, I'd say the conversion lose a lot of interest by fans. The sounds and smells of a traditional locomotive is unmistakable. The only thing missing on WDWRR is genuine coal burning like they are at Dollywood. But, you've got to cut them some slack; WDWRR was never coal driven.

Guess you could make it into a nuclear powered time machine. But, that's the wrong park!
Not to mention the RR tour that was available before gives them more income. I doubt I'd be interested in an electric motor.
 

ToTBellHop

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WDWRR has a great capacity (375 per train, 20 minute loops, 3 train operation on a busy day) and is very popular.
Part of its issue, though, is it’s not 375 loading at each stop. If it’s around 150 per stop (I went a bit above 125 since some guests won’t do the full loop) and a train comes every 7 1/2 min or so, that’s 1000 guests per hour, per stop. It’s not nothing, but it’s not huge.

They need the capacity regardless. And it won’t have Lightning Lane!
 

EricsBiscuit

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Part of its issue, though, is it’s not 375 loading at each stop. If it’s around 150 per stop (I went a bit above 125 since some guests won’t do the full loop) and a train comes every 7 1/2 min or so, that’s 1000 guests per hour, per stop. It’s not nothing, but it’s not huge.

They need the capacity regardless. And it won’t have Lightning Lane!
Have you been to Main Street Station around noon on a summer day? 😉
 

yensidtlaw1969

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Think of all of the things one can substitute for the word "train" above...
Hence my use of quotes around "fine" . . . didn't want to give the impression I agreed with the assessment.

As far as I'm concerned, the train is an essential element of the park that anyone with pride would insist on returning to service quickly.

And there are many things that could substitute for "train" in this case as well.
 

Tuvalu

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Tunnel enclosed 5/13/22.

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SplashJacket

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I hope the underbelly landscaping of Tron turns out well.

While Shanghai’s Tron is gorgeous, the landscaping and ground interaction stood out as a weak point.

The train and pathway to Storybook lead me to believe Magic Kingdom’s will have a more scenic underbelly, but we’d just have to wait and see.
 

SilentWindODoom

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I always love the Disney defense tactic of responding to criticism of contemporary Disney decision making by contending that WDW has always been badly designed and full of stupid decisions. REAL Disney fans know the parks always stunk.

As in all things, balance is necessary. There is something between the straw man you describe and "In the good ol' days the parks were always perfectly themed, no backstage area has ever been visible from on or off property even with a telescoping lens, and economics never affected blue sky creativity."

Think of all of the things one can substitute for the word "train" above...

You could also at the same time replace "3 years" with "approaching 30 years".


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solidyne

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Hence my use of quotes around "fine" . . . didn't want to give the impression I agreed with the assessment.

As far as I'm concerned, the train is an essential element of the park that anyone with pride would insist on returning to service quickly.

And there are many things that could substitute for "train" in this case as well.
I was agreeing! I understood the "fine" sarcasm and was applying it to their treatment of sooo many other things that are merely "fine" and therefore ignored.

What you said was right on, and it is sad that so many things could substitute for "train" in your statement, and it'd still be true.
 

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