News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

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vikescaper

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Surferboy567 said:
I’m just happy to see some more TRON representation, as someone who thinks TRON Legacy is very under appreciated. Definitely a fan of the franchise and seeing this is cool. Excited to try this out soon, if I can muster up enough courage to get on a lightcycle.
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You’re not alone as I have always felt that Legacy is underrated. Yeah, it’s not perfect but I always enjoy watching it. Plus, it has the perfect soundtrack!
 
donsullivan

donsullivan

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Jrb1979 said:
It's not that simple to just create a restraint so all guest sizes can enjoy an attraction. It's not as simple as Disney or Universal just creating a new restraint but the manufacturer of the coaster has to agree to it.
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Exactly true. Every single ride seat, on every attraction is based on a profile defined very early in the development of the attraction. The engineers and designers create a profile of what percentage of the population in an age group they want the attraction to accommodate safely. For example, on something like Tron, they may say they want the design to accommodate 95% (totally made up number, just for reference) of adults above 16 years old to ride. There is a lot of data available to define what that means to help in the design.

Just saying ’add bigger seats’ triggers a change to the weight profile of the ride vehicle which changes the launch motors, the braking systems, the weight on the wheels, and on and on. The practical reality is that when safety is involved, which is, and should always be the highest priority in an attraction like this, there will ALWAYS be some guests who cannot ride. If you make the seats bigger then smaller guests cannot ride safely and the minimum height threshold gets raised. It is a balancing act on thrill rides where they try to accomdodate the maximum number of guests but you will never get to 100% on a thrill ride safely.
 
Casper Gutman

Casper Gutman

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If Disney had to become obsessed with an underperforming adventure film from several decades ago, why couldn’t it have been something fun like Rocketeer or Dick Tracy?
 
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lewisc

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donsullivan said:
accommodate safely. For example, on something like Tron, they may say they want the design to accommodate 95% (totally made up number, just for reference) of adults above 16 years old to ride. There is a lot of data available to define what that means to help in the design.
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Posters say Tron is cut and paste. Was Tron designed to accommodate 95% of Chinese adults above age 16.

Using your made up numbers.

I suspect the average weight of guests visiting the MK might be heavier then guests visiting Shanghai Disney.
 
donsullivan

donsullivan

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lewisc said:
Posters say Tron is cut and paste. Was Tron designed to accommodate 95% of Chinese adults above age 16.

Using your made up numbers.

I suspect the average weight of guests visiting the MK might be heavier then guests visiting Shanghai Disney.
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Without access to the Engineering and design specs of both versions, we do not know. They could easily have kept the same design and ride profile as Shanghai, hence the ’clone’ reference but made adjustments to the physical mechanics of the ride system to accommodate a different guest profile. That would not likely be obviously visible to most. The reality is we don’t have access to the information to know what adjustments were made for the US market, or if the Shanghai version is designed for US market and installed there.
 
CastAStone

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5th gate? Just build a new resort Bob.
lewisc said:
Posters say Tron is cut and paste. Was Tron designed to accommodate 95% of Chinese adults above age 16.

Using your made up numbers.

I suspect the average weight of guests visiting the MK might be heavier then guests visiting Shanghai Disney.
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I believe the mere existence of ADA/person of size seats at all is a modification.
 
wdwmagic

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donsullivan said:
Without access to the Engineering and design specs of both versions, we do not know. They could easily have kept the same design and ride profile as Shanghai, hence the ’clone’ reference but made adjustments to the physical mechanics of the ride system to accommodate a different guest profile. That would not likely be obviously visible to most. The reality is we don’t have access to the information to know what adjustments were made for the US market, or if the Shanghai version is designed for US market and installed there.
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There has indeed been a few minor changes, but it largely a clone.
 
Jrb1979

Jrb1979

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Out of everything that has gone on with Disney in the past few years, from reservations to Genie+, Tron not being Pooh sized friendly seems to have the most negative feedback out of all of them. In not just talking about here but other social media sites.
 
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celluloid

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It is unreal that from launch to tunnel to unload ride time is less than a minute.

The video POV launches at 31 seconds and after the unload tunnel light show is over.

Even if you do not count the initial dip and speed tunnel of space mountain and only start at the top of the chainhill, Space Mountain is longer.
 
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celluloid

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Casper Gutman said:
If Disney had to become obsessed with an underperforming adventure film from several decades ago, why couldn’t it have been something fun like Rocketeer or Dick Tracy?
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Bob Iger has said to love Tron.

Tron Legacy is what this ride is connected to which is a part of Iger's hubris.
And he has another one in the works. This was a clone for MK because it was a synergy move.

If Bob was remaking Dick Tracey and if the Rocketeer Disney Plus plan took off, you can bet we would see one in DHS or Magic Kingdom, maybe even EPCOT or Animal Kingdom.
 
Buried20KLeague

Buried20KLeague

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Tonto said:
The ride is in one location globally. It’s a unique and groundbreaking experience for a majority of the people attending. Not sure where else I’m going to go to get this experience. It goes beyond vehicle design but the whole project as a whole. Again, for me it is revolutionary and groundbreaking when you look at the project as a whole. You want to call it copy and paste go for it. With that said there is nothing factual about your facts. It is an opinion.
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Tell me you’re American without saying you’re American.
 
Buried20KLeague

Buried20KLeague

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celluloid said:
It is unreal that from launch to tunnel to unload ride time is less than a minute.

The video POV launches at 31 seconds and after the unload tunnel light show is over.

Even if you do not count the initial dip and speed tunnel of space mountain and only start at the top of the chainhill, Space Mountain is longer.
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Wait till you ride it. I’m telling you, it is SHORT.
 
Buried20KLeague

Buried20KLeague

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Tonto said:
It is an exact replica of Singapore. With that said, the "Copy and Paste" tag is being used to discredit what many people consider to be an amazing attraction. Like I said, it is still a unique attraction unless you've been on the Singapore Tron ride, which is very few and far between. Thats my point.
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Lol
 
Buried20KLeague

Buried20KLeague

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ChrisFL said:
RnRc is more than just the ride though, it has a pre-show experience and sort of build-up to the ride. Not having seen a lot of the queue area of TRON yet (even the Shanghai one), is there any type of pre-show?
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Think Disneyland’s space mountain que.

There’s a room in the line with a smoked glass wall that clears up to see the train as it goes to launch.

And there’s a ton of daft punk. That I guess you could dance to. So…. Pre-show? Maybe?
 

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