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News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom
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mergatroid
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I think it looks ok. Not as good as before, but my personal view is it's not that bad.
Jrb1979
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Its no Velocicoaster or Iron Gwazi. Track being visible is not the end all be all.
Little Green Men
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It’s still infront of tron though
_caleb
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The only way WDI could more lazy and less creative than building a coaster in a giant box would be leaving an exposed coaster track. Unless the track is somehow themed and/or hidden, it’s just a utilitarian conveyance meant to move a person’s physical body around in the space and exert g-forces.
The difference is the engagement of the imagination.
tirian
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Yes.
EricsBiscuit
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You can’t do the SFX outdoors that they want to do. Also it can operate in rain.
It would have looked ridiculous for the design they were going for with Space Mountain to have only done partial theming. Tron is a very different design. I just don’t understand why everyone keeps panning this attraction. I have been on it in Shanghai and it is fantastic. I guarantee most people who are criticizing it have not actually experienced it. The sight lines are WORSE in Shanghai and even include enormous power lines. I’m all for good sight lines to the max enter possible INSIDE the theme park. But if worrying about it from OUTSIDE the park prevents a kick posterior attraction from being built, that is not a win.
Jrb1979
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I wish we had a meh emoji. From all the POVs I have seen its far from impressive. It may have great theming but it's far from a great coaster.
My wish in life is for an intense coaster with Disney level theming.
Jrb1979
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I know you aren't a big coaster fan and most know I am. Can you imagine a coaster like Steel Vengeance with Disney's theming. A coaster that has you off your seat for over 2 minutes then add in Disney level theming would make it the best coaster in the world. I have always felt while Disney does amazing theming for most of their coasters, they severely lack in thrill.
JoeCamel
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Never fly in a Disney park
_caleb
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I actually agree with this! (Look at us, coming together in agreement!) While I know Disney likes to avoid rides that don’t appeal to the entire family, I think WDI could really make something special if they tried something more “intense.”
The problem is that without heavy modification, a coaster doesn’t lend itself very well to theming. The track itself is probably the biggest challenge. How do you hide the track? Disney typically just hides it in a dark building. And if you don’t hide it, you’ve got to theme it as something other than a roller coaster track. Disney’s already done themes that actually use tracks: mine cars, race cars, runaway trains, bobsleds, etc. But those aren’t going to get you something “extreme” with rolls and loops and such. So that leaves heavy modification of the ride system just to hide it enough to tell as story and make it unique.
Plus, the gigacoasters are too tall (can you imagine Disney trying to build a warehouse to house The Intimidator 305?)!
Jrb1979
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I agree with what you said. I look at a coaster like Maverick at Cedar Point that's intense and low to the ground that could be themed. I keep hearing how the best parks have something for everyone. IMO that is where Disney lacks. They tried with Extraterrestrial but too many mommy and daddy complained.
lazyboy97o
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A coaster like Steel Vengeance is about the coaster. That is the focus. Anything around it is just clutter that gets ignored because it does not enhance the experience. In a theme park the focus is on storytelling, the ride system is tertiary. "Theming" is not just something you slather on to whatever after the fact. It is the central concept that informs everything else.
Jrb1979
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I'm just saying there has to be a way to do both. Have a coaster that high thrilling and high intensity with high level theming. The Mummy at Universal does a decent job of it. Outside of making attractions everyone can ride, why can't Disney do something similar?
JoeCamel
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Disney (today) has no incentive to make thrill rides. The princess' can't ride them so no draw for the demo. Sadly Disney has decided it has to cater to all and that leaves out the thrill crowd.
TrainsOfDisney
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I think big thunder, Everest, and Rockin are as intense as mummy. Coaster wise that is.
TrainsOfDisney
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Umm.... guardians coaster?
Jrb1979
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Its probably why I don't go that often any more. Last time I was in Orlando I spent my week at SeaWorld and Busch Gardens as their coasters are more of a draw for me. My thinking is while me body can handle the G-forces right now I will take advantage of getting as much in as I can. I can always do Disney when my child gets to the age she will remember it.
_caleb
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TRON actually could have been both more thrilling AND better themed. While I’m happy they’re building a new ride, and I like TRON, it seems strange to me that it’s “just“ a coaster. Why didn’t they try to hide or theme the tracks (at least in the outdoor section)? Why didn’t they add an inversion or one of those vertical drop sections everyone’s adding these days? I think this is why people are not as excited about TRON- it’s pretty, but not themed well (story-wise), it’s a coaster, but not super thrilling, it’s family-friendly, but the seating isn’t very accessible. Also, it’s ginormous and ugly, and right next to an iconic classic.