News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

[Buried20KLeague]

So the Tron launch is faster than RNRC?

I thought the TRON launch got to top speed faster than RNRC (it felt like the fastest launch I had ever been on), but then it also backed off that top speed fairly quickly, even before the end of the launch tunnel.

It had a distinctly different feel as a launch coaster, IMO. I thought it was great.

 

[Timothy_Q]

There is nothing that can be done to completely make a building disappear

Uhm.. you can theme it.

Like 99% of the buildings at Disney

That's part of the reason people love Disney.
Because Space Mountain looks like Space Mountain, and not like a warehouse

 

[Daveeeeed]

Uhm.. you can theme it.

Like 99% of the buildings at Disney

That's part of the reason people love Disney.
Because Space Mountain looks like Space Mountain, and not like a warehouse

I'm going to assume that whatever they chose, it will look better than this atrocity:

Imagine if Disney decided to plop this down on Paradise Pier The outrage!

 

[marni1971]

Imagine if Disney decided to plop this down on Paradise Pier

Or Bugs Land.

 

[Gatorboy]

Disneyland feels quaint, and that's one of the many reasons it is so much better than the Magic Kingdom. Mr. Toad is the only dark ride in the land that has not really been changed since opening. The others especially Alice has received updated. Alice is, in my opinion, one of the best C-ticket rides ever built.

Everything at Disneyland from many more rides, to the many more updates across the park vs. Orlando, to the quaintness of New Orleans Square and Fantasyland, and really the entire park lends itself to a superior park experience than MK. WDW is way more dated than Disneyland; by a LONG shot. Even with nostalgia aside, it's hard to argue that the Magic Kingdom is the superior park, and that will only spread further with Star Wars Land, but TRON will help MK. Not to mention how nice the locals are at Disneyland and that the Cast Members pride themselves in being a CM in Anaheim.
As someone who goes to WDW every year, Disneyland easily wins from going last month.

I've been to both parks, can't say the CM's in DL are better, my experiences with them left me wanting to go back home where the hospitality is how I expect to be treated. Never had a bad exchange with a CM from WDW, can't say the same out west, seemed snobbish. I once even hit a CM in Animal Kingdoms parking lot with my SUV and he smiled and said have a magical day, classic. My son's half sister will never let me forget I hit him each time we go. It was not my fault by the way, I was doing what another CM was directing me to do, he kinda walked into my mirror. NO CM's were hurt in this encounter.

 

[wdizneew]

For those of you that have ridden Tron does it launch you really fast like Rock N Roller Coaster?

I thought the TRON launch got to top speed faster than RNRC (it felt like the fastest launch I had ever been on), but then it also backed off that top speed fairly quickly, even before the end of the launch tunnel.

It had a distinctly different feel as a launch coaster, IMO. I thought it was great.

I'm not sure about the speed of Tron compared to RnR (someone said 60 mph), but the fact that you are sitting in a straddled position and angled head first makes the coaster even more thrilling than you would expect.

At least for me, the start of the launch on Tron wasn't as forceful as RnR (i.e. your body pushed against the back of the seat type acceleration), but once you get going there is this feeling of a second launch that surprised me as the train got even faster before you are shot out of the tunnel. I think the initial acceleration is similar to California Screamin'. However Screamin' has a steady build up right up to the end of the launch before going up the first hill. On Tron, the first section of the launch was to get the train moving and the second section added more acceleration. So I agree it's a different feel from RnR and California Screamin'

 

[Gatorboy]

I agree, but neither does "Big Thunder Mountain Railroad." Many people just call it "Thunder Mountain." Similarly, I assume this will be mostly called "the Tron coaster."


I think it has some drawbacks.

First, as often mentioned, the giant unthemed showbuilding in Shanghai is extremely visible from many places both in and out of the park. A new low for Disney parks. This could most certainly ruin the aesthetics from multiple parts of the MK area as well.

Second, I'm not sure this jives well with Space Mountain. This ride is quite literally a newer version of Space Mountain. The imagineers who designed this ride in place of SM in Shanghai based it's story and flow on SM. That's why there are so many striking similarities.

Oh, and third, it's a clone. Now the ride no longer serves as a draw for Americans to visit SDL.

So while additions are generally good, I do see drawbacks. I don't think it's the best way to spend $200 million.

But then looking at some other decisions they've made, I realize it's far, far from the worst.

I don't know why people are so obsessed with the clone thing. How many of the millions of WDW patrons will ever go to another Disney park, I would guess a small percentage. Disney parks wouldn't have Pirates, Splash, Big Thunder, Indy, Haunted Mansion, Peter Pan, TOT, etc etc etc. I personally think WDW should have every ride from all the parks so you could see them all together. Maybe one or two "featured attractions" like the subs at DL that would be exclusive to their individual locations.

 

[Goofyernmost]

I don't know why people are so obsessed with the clone thing. How many of the millions of WDW patrons will ever go to another Disney park, I would guess a small percentage. Disney parks wouldn't have Pirates, Splash, Big Thunder, Indy, Haunted Mansion, Peter Pan, TOT, etc etc etc. I personally think WDW should have every ride from all the parks so you could see them all together. Maybe one or two "featured attractions" like the subs at DL that would be exclusive to their individual locations.

Might as well give it up. They don't have a logical answer. Someone told them they shouldn't like any clones, so they don't. They really don't know why, just that it isn't Disney. Unfortunately, it absolutely isn't out of place with anything Disney does. It is some kind of thing about keeping the parks completely unique. Then, of course, the can call Disney greedy money grubbers, for making them pay for two parks so they could see everything including the good stuff that could just as easily be in all the parks as only one. Financially it is a good thing for Disney because they can sell more tickets and make more money, but, for those that financially cannot afford going from place to place, it just means that they are deprived of a quality attraction.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Uhm.. you can theme it.

Like 99% of the buildings at Disney

That's part of the reason people love Disney.
Because Space Mountain looks like Space Mountain, and not like a warehouse

It is themed! It is part of the ride design. Roofs don't hold themselves up you know. A plan single color wall is far less obtrusive then one all gussied up to be themed as a wall with stuff painted on it. And since we don't know what a Tron ride is supposed to look like... who's to say that doesn't look like a Tron ride? If you wanted too, you could acknowledge the Space Mountain is a round warehouse. Last I heard there are no mountains in space. It doesn't look like any mountain I have ever seen. Use your imagination and your ability of suspend reality.

 

[Daveeeeed]

Or Bugs Land.

That was always a filler land though, but in the meantime, Toy Story Land at Hollywood Studios is being added to a park that is way older which seems to be more of a permanent addition. It was also its own thing, unlike Transformers. And it was also a remnant of a quick way to cheaply fix a cheaply done park.

 

[EPCOTCenterLover]

Well now... it sounds as if Bugs Land might be on the chopping block for the new Marvel land at DCA.

 

[britain]

It is themed! It is part of the ride design. Roofs don't hold themselves up you know. A plan single color wall is far less obtrusive then one all gussied up to be themed as a wall with stuff painted on it. And since we don't know what a Tron ride is supposed to look like... who's to say that doesn't look like a Tron ride? If you wanted too, you could acknowledge the Space Mountain is a round warehouse. Last I heard there are no mountains in space. It doesn't look like any mountain I have ever seen. Use your imagination and your ability of suspend reality.

Ahem... allow me...

I know it looks like another canopy, but it's just a flat wall with a curved top, with tromp l'oil shading on the surface.

Now, WDI, is that so hard?

 

[Mike S]

Has there been any discussion about the possibility of a live entertainment component to compliment the Tron attraction? Until fairly recently, Tomorrowland at WDW had a long tradition of playing host to live musical performances, including early electronic music from artists like Michael Iceberg. Seeing as how the "dance party" has at least been kicking around, is there any hope that Disney might experiment with a live show to tie in with the new Tomorrowland offerings? It wouldn't be the first time.

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If this means getting rid of the stage and putting that near Tron I'm all in!!!

 

[Goofyernmost]

Ahem... allow me...

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I know it looks like another canopy, but it's just a flat wall with a curved top, with tromp l'oil shading on the surface.

Now, WDI, is that so hard?

Not a bad idea, but, from ground level that is probably not visible anyway. That shot is from an elevated area. Just not worth the effort, most people would be concentrating on the ride, not the sky above it.

 

[Timothy_Q]

Not a bad idea, but, from ground level that is probably not visible anyway. That shot is from an elevated area. Just not worth the effort, most people would be concentrating on the ride, not the sky above it.

LOL

I'm glad you're not designing theme parks

 

[britain]

Not a bad idea, but, from ground level that is probably not visible anyway. That shot is from an elevated area. Just not worth the effort, most people would be concentrating on the ride, not the sky above it.

The shot is from Shanghai's 'main level'. This square roof is very visible from guests standing in normal places. The lower level you see in that picture is where you can walk down a ramp or stairs to.

 

[Ismael Flores]

I'm going to assume that whatever they chose, it will look better than this atrocity:

Imagine if Disney decided to plop this down on Paradise Pier The outrage!

And I remember people being so excited about how detailed and fast universal built that. It is just a giant wherehouse with some paint and few pieces of decor on it. That pretty much why universal built it so fast. All the interior was already orefabbed before the ride was announced

 

[britain]

LOL

I'm glad you're not designing theme parks

Come on, that wasn't called for.

 

[Daveeeeed]

And I remember being so excited about how detailed and fast universal built that. It is just a giant wherehouse with some paint and few pieces of decor on it. That pretty much why universal built it so fast. All the interior was already orefabbed before the ride was announced

Exactly. It's unfair to compare Disney's ride times compared to that ride. It was also much cheaper than 100 million since it shared its screen cost with other parks. Because of Walt, Disney's fanbase holds the company to a higher standard and critiques anything. I'm amazed to see TRON get criticized so heavily.

 

[JusticeDisney]

Disney Fans: Hey, can we have one of those awesome rides you're building overseas?
WDW: Sure!
Disney Fans: Cool!! We're getting Mystic Manor! Or Shanghai Pirates! Or maybe Monster Inc from Tokyo... or anything from Disney Seas...
WDW: It's TRON!
Disney Fans: But... but we have Space Mountain, and its pretty much just the same thing, only shorter...
WDW: But it's based on the super-popular IP TRON!
Disney Fans: Well...
WDW: And don't worry, Space Mountain will collapse from lack of maintenance soon anyway, so now we'll have a spare! TRON!

Wait. Let's see if I understand this correctly. You don't want Tron because it is too similar to Space Mountain? But you would be happy with Mystic Manor or Shanghai Pirates? Yeah, you're right, it's too bad WDW isn't getting those rides because there is nothing like those already here. Oh well, I guess in the meantime I will just have to keep going on Haunted Mansion and Pirates of the Caribbean.