denyuntilcaught
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Iger's enthusiasm for purchasing IP is only matched by his ability to mismanage it.
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Transformative Multi-Year Expansion Announced for WDS Paris
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You mean most of Pixar and Marvel movies and all the Disney Animated films since 2005?
I mean… it’s difficult to argue that Pixar and Marvel haven’t been mismanaged the last few years.
That wasn't the point being made. It was that everything Iger touched got ruined. Forgetting the past decade.
denyuntilcaught
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That actually wasn't my point either, I would never be so reductive lol.
My point was more so about the IP pipeline from studios to parks being mismanaged. For every Pandora and Cars, there's a Galaxy's Edge and Avengers Campus. And now DLR gets merely an exhibit for what constitutes 2 of the top 5 films of all time? Doesn't make sense to me in the slightest.
sedati
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The issue is maintaining a high, not achieving one
A maintained high would be great! Who can do such a thing in their life with no slumps or setbacks?
Funny how one bad year in theaters can wipe out twelve good ones.
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Mike S
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The slump started in 2022 not 2023 and it looks like it’ll likely continue.
mrflo
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This has been shared by members on a French fan forum and X. It is a more recent satellite image of DLP (2023) including the WDS expansion.
HERE WeGo: WDS expansion satellite image
HERE WeGo: WDS expansion satellite image
cookiee_munster
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That is going to be one long walk to get to the Frozen expansion once it opens (with nothing much to do along the way) let's hope the plans for the expansion pads are settled and green lit sooner rather than later.
Wish I didn't need to dl.an app to see this
mrflo
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Works without the app on any desktop browser.
nickys
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I tried using desktop mode, it still wanted me to download the app.
I’ll wait until someone reposts it, likely DLPReport will soon.
BrianLo
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It's definitely forgivable to have missed this, since I feel like I also just assume this attraction is DOA.
However, D'Amaro did reaffirm it and release another concept at Destination D23 (Sept 2023).
I also agree this ride is completely hilarious to me and I look forward to hearing the actual story in a decade - but it seems like it is still a thing. A hopefully close thing? Especially since the Avatar Experience was first announced by Iger in February last year, the reaffirmation at Destination D23 doesn't cause me to think that project has supplanted it like everyone else jumped to.
But I too look forward to it being announced this upcoming August. Again
BrianLo
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My best guess on the sequence of events with this Avengers Ride.
HKDL was originally slated to have an Avengers ride open in 2023. This was what was originally proposed to the government in 2016. It wasn't fully designed, but it was mostly to get budgeting approval for the eventual "e-ticket goes here" project. However, the funding approval for the project was pushed off from Legco (the local government) and this pushed off all the projects by about a year. In part they were in the midst of a lot of troubles around the protests. Disney acknowledged everything had shifted a year in terms of the castle (2019->2020) and Frozen (2020->21) timeframes. It didn't really mention the Avengers ride timeframe again, but that was so far out at the time.
We heard about various blue sky developments and iterations behind the scenes before the final attraction came together. That Cap coaster probably being fairly real as it jostled around Cosmic Rewinds development and/or Tron.
Ultimately over those three years of development, the Quinjet version of the attraction was announced for DCA in 2019. This seemed fairly advanced and fairly real. There were five pieces of concept art, one of the exterior for where the ride was being built next to the existing structure, one of the queue, one of ride vehicle while as a quinjet and two more pieces after the vehicles seemingly broke out of the Quinjet shell. To me this seems like something slated to start construction (maybe at both DCA and HKDL in 2020) for a 2024 opening timeframe. This feels about right, both with what was expected by Legco from their financing and for DL that had already announced MMRR, which would be the focus a year or two earlier from a marketing perspective.
Bob Chapek basically took the hammer to everything that wasn't started or desperately necessary with COVID. It seems the UK attraction, the Epcot table and Avengers attraction were those major things; along with WDSP's subsequent phases.
It then seems like Chapek reapproves some sort of necessary expenditure in time for D23 2022. UK remains cut, but the Epcot (highly modified) was required as they can't just leave a missing piece of the hub and Avengers projects are maybe required to re-budget and start over. The Avengers ride specifically because there is a commitment to their HK government partner to make it happen.
D'amaro desperately tries to put together a D23, with essentially nothing in the pipeline. So we get a very early announcement for the new Avengers ride in 2022. The trouble is that's not really explicit and we're all left wondering what is happening, despite it maybe being about 6 months into development generously when it was re-re-announced.
This is all a very hopeful way of saying I think this ride is real still. Because there is money that is not Disney's on the line. But it absolutely cannot reappear at this D23 without something firm and more hopefully active construction at one or more of its sites.
HKDL was originally slated to have an Avengers ride open in 2023. This was what was originally proposed to the government in 2016. It wasn't fully designed, but it was mostly to get budgeting approval for the eventual "e-ticket goes here" project. However, the funding approval for the project was pushed off from Legco (the local government) and this pushed off all the projects by about a year. In part they were in the midst of a lot of troubles around the protests. Disney acknowledged everything had shifted a year in terms of the castle (2019->2020) and Frozen (2020->21) timeframes. It didn't really mention the Avengers ride timeframe again, but that was so far out at the time.
We heard about various blue sky developments and iterations behind the scenes before the final attraction came together. That Cap coaster probably being fairly real as it jostled around Cosmic Rewinds development and/or Tron.
Ultimately over those three years of development, the Quinjet version of the attraction was announced for DCA in 2019. This seemed fairly advanced and fairly real. There were five pieces of concept art, one of the exterior for where the ride was being built next to the existing structure, one of the queue, one of ride vehicle while as a quinjet and two more pieces after the vehicles seemingly broke out of the Quinjet shell. To me this seems like something slated to start construction (maybe at both DCA and HKDL in 2020) for a 2024 opening timeframe. This feels about right, both with what was expected by Legco from their financing and for DL that had already announced MMRR, which would be the focus a year or two earlier from a marketing perspective.
Bob Chapek basically took the hammer to everything that wasn't started or desperately necessary with COVID. It seems the UK attraction, the Epcot table and Avengers attraction were those major things; along with WDSP's subsequent phases.
It then seems like Chapek reapproves some sort of necessary expenditure in time for D23 2022. UK remains cut, but the Epcot (highly modified) was required as they can't just leave a missing piece of the hub and Avengers projects are maybe required to re-budget and start over. The Avengers ride specifically because there is a commitment to their HK government partner to make it happen.
D'amaro desperately tries to put together a D23, with essentially nothing in the pipeline. So we get a very early announcement for the new Avengers ride in 2022. The trouble is that's not really explicit and we're all left wondering what is happening, despite it maybe being about 6 months into development generously when it was re-re-announced.
This is all a very hopeful way of saying I think this ride is real still. Because there is money that is not Disney's on the line. But it absolutely cannot reappear at this D23 without something firm and more hopefully active construction at one or more of its sites.
Animaniac93-98
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Is Disney obligated to build the Avengers E specifically for HKDL, or can it be any major attraction with the allocated funds?
I am hoping it won't seem as bad apart from Rope Dropping Frozen as you will have the paths from Avengers and Pixar that are basically at the lagoon but hopefully, we get official word on those expansion pads sooner than later. (I guess we won't hear anything until D23 though, as they are going need all they can get together to pad it out).