fngoofy
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Have you ever looked to see the same layout x2 (bigger, longer, higher, etc.) could fit inside IF they only did one track?Matterhorn is comparatively smoother now with the new cars.
Have you ever looked to see the same layout x2 (bigger, longer, higher, etc.) could fit inside IF they only did one track?Matterhorn is comparatively smoother now with the new cars.
I think the actual track has the best layout of the SMs. With a new track of the same layout, onboard audio, and better sealing to block out sunlight, we’d have the best SM. Considering the track MUST be replaced soon, there would be little further expense to give us an awesome ride.
I would love to see a modernized lift hill. It bugs me that you’re on a chain lift hill when you’re in a rocket... doesn’t have to been “launched” just. Tire system or silent chain (yes it’s possible), so you don’t hear the anti-rollbacks climbing the hill
It feels like it skips links sometimes.
Because it’s rough?
i rode Disneylands last week. What an amazing difference. Just how Orlando’s was intended to be but much more enjoyable as a ride.
Yeah I have heard / felt that noise many times when riding.
Yep. Plans made long ago.Wow, you were in DL and didn’t come to the final ROE at Epcot?
That was the plan until it was axed. Same lifts as Everest.I would love to see a modernized lift hill. It bugs me that you’re on a chain lift hill when you’re in a rocket... doesn’t have to been “launched” just. Tire system or silent chain (yes it’s possible), so you don’t hear the anti-rollbacks climbing the hill
Could replace track keep the layout the same (maybe modify unload and load for capacity possibly) and add two seats per row cars. Im imagining the mountain has enough room to accommodate a slightly wider track if need be to handle the extra mass etc. Also would require minor modifications to make it work with the extra mass but i assume this could all be done by a good firm to retain same layout in laymans terms but likely some different angles and such. Again this only makes sense if full replacement has to occur you could increase capacity alot if you went this route.
I didn’t know that, but yes Everest’s system was exactly what I was thinking. I’m very nostalgic about the parks, but this is a change I’m okay with.That was the plan until it was axed. Same lifts as Everest.
Can they also put silent lift hills on Big Thunder. I have to plug my ears they're so loud.I didn’t know that, but yes Everest’s system was exactly what I was thinking. I’m very nostalgic about the parks, but this is a change I’m okay with.![]()
Can they also put silent lift hills on Big Thunder. I have to plug my ears they're so loud.
That's fair. But a little sound dampening or something a little quieter could be good.While they are loud...this one (IMO) works because it feels like a thrown-together mine-train built with spare parts they had laying around the site.
That's fair. But a little sound dampening or something a little quieter could be good.
Can they also put silent lift hills on Big Thunder. I have to plug my ears they're so loud.
That’s actually one of my favorite sounds in the parks, I remember them scaring the hell out of me when I was little lolCan they also put silent lift hills on Big Thunder. I have to plug my ears they're so loud.
Usually older coasters have much larger ratchets and safety dogs.
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On Expedition Everest the ratchets are much smaller thus creating less noise (You can barely make them out but they are on the right).
It's actually not the chain lifts themselves that are so loud but the anti-rollback devices on them that keep the cars from rolling back.
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This is a great picture. The moving lift chain is on the right. The ratchet rail does not move. The "clanking" that you hear on a lift is the safety dog moving over each individual ratchet on the rail.
Usually older coasters have much larger ratchets and safety dogs.
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On Expedition Everest the ratchets are much smaller thus creating less noise (You can barely make them out but they are on the right).
IMO The louder older design works for Big Thunder because of it's theme.
Actually, Everest's lift hills use Intamin's quiet lifthill system which isn't quiet simply because the anti-rollback dogs are smaller. Instead, it uses a magnetic device that keeps the dogs retracted up under the train so that they don't make contact with the rollback teeth at all, as long as the train is moving forward at a specified constant speed. That's why you hear the dogs clanking at the bottom and top of the lifthills, the train isn't moving at a constant speed. But once it settles into the lifthill speed, it's silent.
Were the lift to stop, the rollback dogs would no longer be held up, they'd drop and engage the teeth in the track.
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