Time Racer Coming

Cliff

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by SirNimajneb
Thou shalt honor they founder, Walt Disney!

Thou shalt not honor false idols, like money.

Thou shalt not covet Universal Studio's ride systems!

Thou shalt not create excuses for shortcomings.

Thou shalt remember the magic! in music, light, story, adventure, experience, memory, purpose, and in all thy creations!

Amen to that brothers,....Amen.
 

Raidermatt

Active Member
Ok, ...we should start a new movement with a goal of keepping WDI true to it's roots.
Maybe a technicality, but I don't think WDI should really be the focus. I heard (not first hand, so take it for what its worth), that WDI plans for Soarin' DID have other show elements, and maybe even a real story. In other words, at least a good attempt at MAGIC.

Of course, those things cost money, which WDI did not control...

However, the Commandments are coming along nicely! Please, continue...
 

SirNim

Well-Known Member
I'm just bringing this up, with no real significance other than to see if there is common agreement...

I'm sure you have noticed that in recent years, many of WDI's newer attractions have been in this form: A large, rather plain, rectangular building, with a courtyard in the front, with a large, somewhat exaggerated model of something relevant to the attraction inside:

Rock n' Roller Coaster - large, rather plain building. Large courtyard in front. Exaggerated guitar the only source of architectural whimsey.

Mission: Space - somewhat plain, rectangular building behind the curves we can all visualize. Large "Planetary Plaza" courtyard in front. Exaggerated models of Mars, Earth, Moon, etc...


Anyone see a pattern?...

Sure, SE, will always retain its exterior architectual whimsey - what's better than the world's largest geosphere?!?!?
But on the inside - on the inside - that's what counts...

Let's hope the inside isn't a veritable rectangular box all whooped up by some exaggerated, upplayed objects of tangibility or subliminality.
 

WDWspider

New Member
Originally posted by SirNimajneb
I'm just bringing this up, with no real significance other than to see if there is common agreement...

I'm sure you have noticed that in recent years, many of WDI's newer attractions have been in this form: A large, rather plain, rectangular building, with a courtyard in the front, with a large, somewhat exaggerated model of something relevant to the attraction inside:

Rock n' Roller Coaster - large, rather plain building. Large courtyard in front. Exaggerated guitar the only source of architectural whimsey.

Mission: Space - somewhat plain, rectangular building behind the curves we can all visualize. Large "Planetary Plaza" courtyard in front. Exaggerated models of Mars, Earth, Moon, etc...


Anyone see a pattern?...

Dinosaur also. ;)
 

SirNim

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by spider-man
Dinosaur also. ;)

I was gonna mention that one too, but the two most powerful applications of this mindset were the ones I chose to highlight... :) :D :lol: :animwink: ;) :cool:
 

WDWspider

New Member
Originally posted by SirNimajneb
I was gonna mention that one too, but the two most powerful applications of this mindset were the ones I chose to highlight... :) :D :lol: :animwink: ;) :cool:

Although you could say Even the Haunted Mansion is this way, although the front piece (the mansion) is a lot more elaborate. The rest of the ride is basically found in a rectangular building. So was 20,000 Leagues.. right???
 

SirNim

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by spider-man
Although you could say Even the Haunted Mansion is this way, although the front piece (the mansion) is a lot more elaborate. The rest of the ride is basically found in a rectangular building. So was 20,000 Leagues.. right???

But this "style", I like to compare it to Adam's finger on the Sistene Chapel. Sure, It has strength, and substance, but in relativity to God's finger, it is not elaborate, not unique, but rather ordinary.


(Boy, that's a weird comparision. I think I'm nuts!)


THe architectural style is much more ornate, and the actual building the ride is in is the actual building you see, appraoch, and enter, and associate, with the ride. Take the Spalsh Mountain for instance. It has an elaborate queue both indoors and out, and has such personality. It just seems these newer buildings lack that persoanlity, individuality, that magical essence of a quality.

I..Just...Don't...Know...

I've got to
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WDWspider

New Member
Originally posted by SirNimajneb
But this "style", I like to compare it to Adam's finger on the Sistene Chapel. Sure, It has strength, and substance, but in relativity to God's finger, it is not elaborate, not unique, but rather ordinary.


(Boy, that's a weird comparision. I think I'm nuts!)


THe architectural style is much more ornate, and the actual building the ride is in is the actual building you see, appraoch, and enter, and associate, with the ride. Take the Spalsh Mountain for instance. It has an elaborate queue both indoors and out, and has such personality. It just seems these newer buildings lack that persoanlity, individuality, that magical essence of a quality.

I..Just...Don't...Know...

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Yes I do agree and see it... It's the All Stars approach.
 

WDWFREAK53

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by SirNimajneb
But this "style", I like to compare it to Adam's finger on the Sistene Chapel. Sure, It has strength, and substance, but in relativity to God's finger, it is not elaborate, not unique, but rather ordinary.


(Boy, that's a weird comparision. I think I'm nuts!)


THe architectural style is much more ornate, and the actual building the ride is in is the actual building you see, appraoch, and enter, and associate, with the ride. Take the Spalsh Mountain for instance. It has an elaborate queue both indoors and out, and has such personality. It just seems these newer buildings lack that persoanlity, individuality, that magical essence of a quality.

I..Just...Don't...Know...

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Umm...yes...most...but not all of the new stuff...

Mission Space I wouldn't exactly classify as a "plain" looking building...If you are going to say that M:S is a plain looking building because there is a rectangular MAIN building...then you could say the same for Splash Mountain...not ALL of that attraction is on the actual mountain.

and I can think of another of the newer attractions that is the exact OPPOSITE of this...

*cough Tower of Terror cough*

(but I see where you were going with RnR and Dinosaur...and the ick...All-Stars)
 

SirNim

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by WDWFREAK53
Umm...yes...most...but not all of the new stuff...

Mission Space I wouldn't exactly classify as a "plain" looking building...If you are going to say that M:S is a plain looking building because there is a rectangular MAIN building...then you could say the same for Splash Mountain...not ALL of that attraction is on the actual mountain.

and I can think of another of the newer attractions that is the exact OPPOSITE of this...

*cough Tower of Terror cough*

(but I see where you were going with RnR and Dinosaur...and the ick...All-Stars)

Yeah, but when did ToT open?? It's approaching 10 years very fast, you know...

Opened AD/CE 1994. CTX/Dinosaur, RnRC, M:S all (will) (open)ed after that. AS for M:S being plain, what it is a plain, rectangular building. Some curvy "impediments" have been created over and in front of it, but the fact remains, it is enhanced on the front, and it is lain. It is 2-Dimensional. you cannot get a view of M:S from the side of the building. The curves don't extend that far. It's all gussied up in the front. It's like the GMR. Take away the two walls on either side of the main courtyard of the theatre, and what are you left with? A virtual box!! Take away all the swooshes of M:S and what are you left with? A virtual box!!
:snore:
 

SirNim

Well-Known Member
As for SM - it is 3-Dimensional. It can be admired from different vantage points. M:S and the others are straight-ahead view, 2-D architecture examples...
 

AndyMagic

Well-Known Member
Ok now I think we have gone that extra step from nitpicking into insanity. I cannot believe that we are now complaining that new showbuildings are not "3-D" enough. :rolleyes: And I'm sure those old "CLASSIC" fantasyland attractions have such cool buildlings. Mission: SPACE is one of the coolest buildings ever built at Disney and I can't believe anyone could complain about it. Not to mention, what would be the purpose of making MS look nice from ALL angles if it is only visable head on anyway?? What's next, "the paper towels in the bathrooms are simply not the right brown color like they used to be" :hammer:
 

SirNim

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by AndyMagic
Ok now I think we have gone that extra step from nitpicking into insanity. I cannot believe that we are now complaining that new showbuildings are not 3-D enough. :rolleyes: And those old "CLASSIC" fantasyland attractions have such cool showbuildlings. Mission: SPACE is one of the coolest buildings ever built at Disney and I can't believe anyone could complain about it. Not to mention, would would be the purpose of making MS look nice from ALL angles if it is only visable head on anyway?? What's next, "the paper towels in the bathrooms are simply not the right brown color like they used to be" :hammer:

I'm just saying M:S is one side of a box. :p
True, you're only supposed to see it head-on, but that is only because it had to be retrofitted to a site whre an old EPCOT Center pavilion once stood.
There's just something lacking in newer buildings. A certain personality.

Like I have said, I...Just...Don't...Know...

Just an observation...
No complaints...
The rides in each building (Dinosaur, RNRC, M:S) are knock-out E-Ticket, fun "thrill" rides anyway!!
 

WDWspider

New Member
Originally posted by AndyMagic
Ok now I think we have gone that extra step from nitpicking into insanity. I cannot believe that we are now complaining that new showbuildings are not "3-D" enough. :rolleyes: And I'm sure those old "CLASSIC" fantasyland attractions have such cool buildlings. Mission: SPACE is one of the coolest buildings ever built at Disney and I can't believe anyone could complain about it. Not to mention, what would be the purpose of making MS look nice from ALL angles if it is only visable head on anyway?? What's next, "the paper towels in the bathrooms are simply not the right brown color like they used to be" :hammer:

No, simply an observation, no complaints... at least not from me.. just a difference in the new structures from old... I think.
 

General Grizz

New Member
He's just drawing comparisons, that's all, but like he said, it's all in the substance... :D Let's hope Mission: Space has some good stuff for families to enjoy together...and keep that "promise."
 

AndyMagic

Well-Known Member
I agree Grizzly. I'm pretty sure someone mentioned something about a kids play area in the post-show area of Mission: Space. Does anyone remember this or am I loosing it again. Ohh and speaking of 3-d buildings. Has anyone seen the concept art for Forbidden Mountain? According to "The fabulous disney babe" it is very impressive, but she doesn't have clearance to post it. I sure hope it is a good attraction. If anything Forbidden Mountain would also mean the joining of Asia with Dinoland which would mean Camp Minnie-Mickey is the only dead end land left. :sohappy:
 

Brooke

New Member
when i go to theme parks i go to have fun and get AWAY from school, not to go to learn...EPCOT needs more thrills imo...
 

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