MK Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

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Vclguy90 said:
Kathy Mangum? Yea, she walked into the Blue Sky session, sat down at the table and had a croissant with a coffee. About 15 minutes in to listening to these clowns she got up and said "you guys obviously don't know what you're doing and this is so dumb," dropped her badge and peeled out the parking lot.
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Is that a true story? That sounds so awesome. Is there a book or something about this?
 
Prince-1

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Trauma said:
I don’t think people are stupid for liking Tiana’s.

I am not trying to bully anyone.

The general consensus surrounding Splash was that it was top tier if not a masterpiece.

The general consensus surrounding Tiana is that it’s very average.

That doesn’t mean that individuals don’t have different viewpoints wildly varying from the consensus opinion.

It does mean on average that the Magic Kingdom experience has been lessened.

That alone should be concerning considering everything else they have been downgrading.
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You are basing your flawed opinion on the smallest sample size of people who are saying anything about the ride. The overwhelming majority of people who will be visiting MK have no clue what this ride looks like, and I would guess that the majority of them are going to enjoy it.
 
JohnD

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James Alucobond said:
It had a ride system that masterfully matched the story it was telling, which is what has to some extent been lost in the transition, similar to what we saw happen with FEA. The overarching narrative and script weren’t anything special.
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So you're making excuses now that it's impossible with a retheme because of the existing track. Really? Others have said you could have Dr. Faciellier before the final drop to build up tension, for example. There could have been more storytelling in the initial segment about rounding up the band. Instead there are just separate bands playing and empty spaces. They had many narrative choices and, to reference another poster, made a longer version of NRJ. Screens and AAs scattered about with no cohesive narrative.
 
Mr. Sullivan

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Trauma said:
I don’t think people are stupid for liking Tiana’s.

I am not trying to bully anyone.

The general consensus surrounding Splash was that it was top tier if not a masterpiece.

The general consensus surrounding Tiana is that it’s very average.

That doesn’t mean that individuals don’t have different viewpoints wildly varying from the consensus opinion.

It does mean on average that the Magic Kingdom experience has been lessened.

That alone should be concerning considering everything else they have been downgrading.
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Right but the general point I’m trying to make is that there’s many who don’t believe that the MK experience has been lessened, or that Tiana’s is just average, or don’t think Splash was any more than a fun ride with some cute scenes rather than a pinnacle of imagineering.

And while those opinions differ from the “consensus” (and I don’t that that is the consensus outside fan circles) that doesn’t mean that the people who hold them ought to face the ridicule they do.
 
monothingie

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IanDLBZF said:
From the desk of Forbes.com...
www.forbes.com

Disney Spoils Its Own Ride And Pays The Price

Disney's theme park design division is famous for its secrecy. So when it posted a full video of its newest attraction a month before it launched it seemed to be the dawn of a whole new world. It may not last for long.
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com
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Ouch. Almost like the first half of the article was in the can, then reality set in.
 
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JohnD said:
So you're making excuses now that it's impossible with a retheme because of the existing track. Really? Others have said you could have Dr. Faciellier before the final drop to build up tension, for example. There could have been more storytelling in the initial segment about rounding up the band. Instead there are just separate bands playing and empty spaces. They had many narrative choices and, to reference another poster, made a longer version of NRJ. Screens and AAs scattered about with no cohesive narrative.
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I didn’t make an excuse. Where did I say that it couldn’t have been done better? Not sure why everyone’s in attack mode. Yeesh.
 
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Prince-1 said:
You are basing your flawed opinion on the smallest sample size of people who are saying anything about the ride. The overwhelming majority of people who will be visiting MK have no clue what this ride looks like, and I would guess that the majority of them are going to enjoy it.
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Well when the only sample size we have is trending extremely negative and it contains near half a million people. I would say that is not a good start.

People made the same arguments for StarCruiser and we know how that went.

I don’t understand the argument.

Is it something like the general public is too stupid to understand the difference between amazing and average so who cares ?

I was the general public many years ago and I sure as heck could tell the difference.
 
PizzaPlanet

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Another problem is the fact that the ride has frequent stops. That was fine when there were plenty of details to look at, but now…
 
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James Alucobond

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Trauma said:
Isn’t the basic fact that some rides are more popular than others proof that the general public is capable of discerning ride quality?
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Yes, but online opinions of Disney attractions very frequently do not match popularity in practice. Several community darlings are absolute ghost towns, while many attractions you would assume were universally reviled based on forum chatter have hours-long waits.
 
Sir_Cliff

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BrianLo said:
Sure you are...

Boardwalk is easily rentable via any broker and in high demand. You can also resell it for likely more than you bought it for if you want.

PS: This is not a "don't go" post, but more a don't pretend like you are being forced into it. It's a shtick all the DVC addicts don't want to own up to. Everyone clearly still likes the product - especially if you continue to own their timeshare.
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Yes, it often strikes me that some of the most relentlessly negative posters on here who often scold other posters for rewarding Disney by expressing more positive opinions seem to casually mention being at WDW an awful lot.
 
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BrerFoxesBayouAdventure

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Mr. Sullivan said:
I doubt they are because their reasons for why they wanted Splash to go were not really dependent upon whatever replaced it.

The fact of the matter is Splash Mountain made a lot of people uncomfortable and has for years, but until that conversation gained traction, they weren't comfortable talking about it for fear of the exact kind of response it ended up getting. I'm much happier knowing that something that actively made people feel uncomfortable is gone from Disney. There's no place for something like that in the parks.
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While Splash Mountain certainly had its detractors, the issues regarding the Song of the South theme weren't as discussed up until like a few years ago. I remember around 2019 there were surveys at WDW going around asking if certain rides (Jungle Cruise, Pirates, Splash, Enchanted Tiki Room) were insensitive and nothing really came out of that until a few months later. Splash has always been a favorite in the parks, all the times I've went I saw people of all colors smiling and laughing on it, it just has that whimsical charm people liked, even if the SotS theming was an issue.
Mr. Sullivan said:
I hope they continue to fix some other attractions in their portfolio that inspire those same feelings. Som don't even require rethemes or redoes, just removing certain elements such as that alarmingly racist Chinese puppet from the Pinocchio ride at Disneyland.
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When I went on Pinocchio's Daring Journey, I was completely jumpscared by that and felt like they should probably address it sooner rather than later.
 
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