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[IanDLBZF]

We can’t band together and organize a walkout when Iger appears?

Or form a demonstration at D 23?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Well forums like these are where the hardcore fans communicate.

We can’t band together and organize a walkout when Iger appears?

The D23 attendees have their entire lives wrapped in a cocoon around Disney. There is not much else.

Its sad, really…a void that isnt gonna be filled.

 

[KDM31091]

Guests continue to visit WDW because of nostalgia (actually, not much is left of that but).

I have gotten to the point where I know what I want to experience in each park and it’s not the new stuff. It’s MuppetVision, ToT, Fantasmic, Spaceship Earth, Figment, GOTG (exception), LWTL, Tiki Room, things like that.

That is my usual thing too, as a local. Almost all of my attraction visits are the older classics, with few exceptions like Toy Story Mania and Runaway Railway. But for the most part yes, it's the older things. Which will slowly but surely be taken away from us. And if TBA is any indication of the future, sadly, I'm not excited at all.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Can we not do the stupid “social issues” debate?

If we really want to make sweeping generalizations, the mess that is TBA and the Disney parks in general has a lot more to do with the state of corporate capitalism in modern America than any hot button issue, but that’s sure not going to be a productive discussion here, so let’s just focus on the rides and the immediate issues with Imagineering and management.

There’s been almost none of that…for once.

Buford did say that everyone is a bigot against the imagineer…however. Because SOP.

The same Reason why no one even remembers that atrocious little mermaid from last year either

Not Disneys fault for bad product…we just live in a world of horrid monsters

 

[Trauma]

The D23 attendees have their entire lives wrapped in a cocoon around Disney. There is not much else.

Its sad, really…a void that isnt gonna be filled.

Yeah well I’m all in on Disney too. If you don’t believe me I can show you how much I pay in dues.

I can’t be the only hardcore fan that is FED UP.

The only way things change is if they start losing money or something makes the news.

Half the crowd standing up and walking out on Iger would make the news for sure. It would also punch Bob right in his ego. Then he could experience the awful feeling of desperation in his gut that the hardcore fans have had for YEARS.

 

[TalkingHead]

It's attractive looking.
I knew it would be.
But it's attractive without substance.
Without humor, feeling, creativity...

Just summed up the last two decades of WDI

 

[McMickeyWorld]

Really? A bit dramatic much. There have been PLENTY of people acknowledging the downfall of Disney creative especially in these boards. People were excited for this attraction based on what had been seeing about the ride for the last few months like the animatronics episode and little that was showed in the last episode, my self included. I can also see people thinking this attraction being good based the things we had been seeing in Tokyo with Fantasy Springs, yes OLC runs the Tokyo parks, but the same WDI makes the rides.

X2

 

[Surferboy567]

When Iger takes the stage at D23 he needs to be met with an ear shattering chorus of boos, that is sustained until he is forced to leave the stage.

Maybe I’m too hopeful, but I have a good feeling about this year’s D23. That’s why I have decided to go for the first time. The others have been so underwhelming I feel like this has to be good.

 

[Starship824]

X2

??

 

[Earlie the Pearlie]

Guests continue to visit WDW because of nostalgia (actually, not much is left of that but).

I have gotten to the point where I know what I want to experience in each park and it’s not the new stuff. It’s MuppetVision, ToT, Fantasmic, Spaceship Earth, Figment, GOTG (exception), LWTL, Tiki Room, things like that.

I didn’t even realize that I’m more excited for all of this stuff than anything new. Add Mansion, Pirates, PeopleMover, and Carousel of Progress, and you’ve got yourself a perfect vacation. I’ve got a soft spot for Philarmagic, too

 

[EagleScout610]

The creative thought process behind Splash vs. Tiana should tell you just how far down we've fallen in terms of Imagineering

 

[dreamfinding]

I didn’t even realize that I’m more excited for all of this stuff than anything new. Add Mansion, Pirates, PeopleMover, and Carousel of Progress, and you’ve got yourself a perfect vacation. I’ve got a soft spot for Philarmagic, too

Ah, forgot to list those.

I’m also a sucker for Dinosaur and Everest. Usually when I ride Spaceship Earth, the AirPods go in so I can listen to the Jeremy Irons version.

I feel like I will be doing the same for TBA.

 

[lightningtap347]

What was the point of spending so much time writing up personalities for these animals when they don't appear to do anything? Who cares what they say their personality like it's the back of a trading card when they're in the ride for seemingly 45 seconds with no lines?

Seems like a lot of effort went into the wrong places, and using the corpse of Splash will make it impossible to detach comparisons to it. This is really really not good.

 

[Surferboy567]

I didn’t even realize that I’m more excited for all of this stuff than anything new. Add Mansion, Pirates, PeopleMover, and Carousel of Progress, and you’ve got yourself a perfect vacation. I’ve got a soft spot for Philarmagic, too

Philarmagic is highly underrated another one of my favorites. Could use some more scenes though.

 

[dreamfinding]

What was the point of spending so much time writing up personalities for these animals when they don't appear to do anything? Who cares what they say their personality like it's the back of a trading card when they're in the ride for seemingly 45 seconds with no lines?

Seems like a lot of effort went into the wrong places, and using the corpse of Splash will make it impossible to detach comparisons to it. This is really really not good.

If they had put 50% of the effort they put into the animals into the ACTUAL ride, it would’ve been a great product.

 

[docnabox]

Can we not do the stupid “social issues” debate?

If we really want to make sweeping generalizations, the mess that is TBA and the Disney parks in general has a lot more to do with the state of corporate capitalism in modern America than any hot button issue, but that’s sure not going to be a productive discussion here, so let’s just focus on the rides and the immediate issues with Imagineering and management.

I think both of those issues are at play. I totally think the social issue plays a role here and then the capitalism issue kicks in on top. This ride is the nexus of those two things coming together. These are big social issues for many and Disney knows that and is eager to make money off of it. They know it will appeal to some on the social relevancy alone and on top of that, Disney knows that “princesses” (hardly applicable here since she looks more like a big game hunter going out on a safari) sell big time. Theoretically, a win-win on paper until the execution is so poor that it comes across as a big stink bomb.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Yeah well I’m all in on Disney too. If you don’t believe me I can show you how much I pay in dues.

I can’t be the only hardcore fan that is FED UP.

The only way things change is if they start losing money or something makes the news.

Half the crowd standing up and walking out on Iger would make the news for sure. It would also punch Bob right in his ego. Then he could experience the awful feeling of desperation in his gut that the hardcore fans have had for YEARS.

Well for years any legitimate criticism from fans has been shouted down as serving some “evil agenda”

Bob loves that. Cause he can do what he wants and hate fans…which is what he’s always felt anyway

…or maybe we just hate SUCK?

Disney praetorians are the first to decry Star Wars fans with criticism
We are just anti-Disney haters…

…or maybe we just HATE SUCK.

Solution? Stop making suck.

Lather…rinse

 

[Tha Realest]

My thoughts exactly. It would just feel so natural. The way it is now feels so forced.

Because nothing about this project is organic.
Can't say I feel bad for the imaginears involved.

They had one job as the saying goes.
The source material was there in the film.
Watching PatF, so much of it lends itself perfectly to this ride layout.
But no...
The people who made this ride "knew better than that.
They abandoned virtually everything that made that film work, and came up with their own employee Owned, food conglomerate, assemble the band, but you're the secret spice mumbo jumbo, but just kept a couple of the characters from the film.

Yeah. When you deign to believe you can improve on both PatF and Splash Mountain, you better deliver. As it stands, these people are not good at this.

I suspect it will feel like Navi River Journey with drops.

This is damning praise.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Watched the daytime uncut POV and had some more thoughts.

- Upper loop didn't need dialogue screamed at us. It was a perfect way to get us settled into the world of the critters while still feeling like our world.
- Why does Tiana wait until the boats at her to say "I sure want yall to play at the party!" We're not the musicians, right?
- Mama Odies "Think big! Go tiny!" Line comes out of absolutely nowhere. Tianas line right before it is "I hope they all come to the party! Let's explore!" Giving us no indication we need to shrink or are looking for anything small.
- Laughin' Place is an utter waste. Props for the jumping fountains but that's it.
- Mama Odie screen where the boothill boys were is just lazy.
- Lari adds nothing to the post-splashdown tunnel. He may be mentioned in another line of dialouge but I didn't hear it in the POV I watched.

Well, I did hear that at one point, the Laughin’ Place replacement was even more boring and an exec suggested something “more exciting”. This could explain the shrinking storyline coming out of no where and ending just as abruptly as it starts: it was shoehorned in.

 

[DisneyDean97]

The creative thought process behind Splash vs. Tiana should tell you just how far down we've fallen in terms of Imagineering View attachment 788994

This era of imagineering is GONE! Current WDI is too worried about posting 1,000 social media posts on how much they're developing a story, and use buzz words 500x... meanwhile, the real ride is a disjointed mess and makes no sense. Current WDI can't hold a candle to WDI of the late 80s and 90s