MK Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

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Incomudro

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The more I think of the plot for the attraction, the more confused I get. Looking in a bayou for musicians doesn't make sense to me as a story for a Princess and the Frog ride. I thought Louis was a unique circumstance, so wouldn't it be easier to find a human band? Maybe I missed the backstory and Tiana planned the party too late, so all the human musicians were booked at other Mardi Gras parties already.

I also started to think of what it'd be like if this is what they used as a plot for something like the Little Mermaid. For most of the ride the only characters are Ariel, Sebastian and random sea creatures. Let's find some ocean animals to play in Sebastian's concert. There is no Ursula anywhere. Maybe you see King Triton using some magic to make you smaller for some ridiculous reason and you pick up some musical shrimp, then voila, you are ready to get big again for the concert and finally get to see the rest of the characters in the finale. I find the idea lame.

I don't understand why they didn't use the plot of the movie. If they were doing a classic ride from scratch for Tiana, it wouldn't be nearly 10 minutes. It'd probably be closer to 3 or 4. The frog thing wouldn't be that big of a problem because they could still include at least 3 human animatronics of Tiana in different dresses: an "Almost There" scene, Charlotte's party where she meets Naveen, and a big finale in her classic green princess dress. They could also have a Dr. Facilier scene and a scene where Tiana and Naveen are frogs falling in love in the bayou. It's all from the movie and would've made a wonderful dark ride for families. We don't have enough of those.

I still think that this was the wrong property for Splash's bones, it shows with how contrived the story is, but they can't undo that decision. They should be thinking of a plan B now though to improve what was delivered.
I said this once a while back: I imagine that a good portion of the fans (young and old) of Tiana and PatF are going to be puzzled by this ride.
Imagine say a little girl who wants to go on "The Tiana ride?"
Imagine what she expects, because she knows and loves the movie?
Now look at her ride experience: Tiana in a safari get up, no Dr. Facilier, Naveen at the very end.
Essentially none of the beats that she knows from the film are hit.
 

monothingie

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Ok, name one in the last five years in the parks specifically, yes I know there a few examples on the studio side, but where is this "blaming the fans" because I haven't seen it recently.
I don’t think Disney Parks has failed on this level in recent memory. The context for the ride replacement is based on spicy issues. I don’t think it’s a leap to believe that in order to quiet the negative noise, some type of clap back against the poor reaction will occur since they have no problem doing the same with their other properties.
 

dreamfinding

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I said this once a while back: I imagine that a good portion of the fans (young and old) of Tiana and PatF are going to be puzzled by this ride.
Imagine say a little girl who wants to go on "The Tiana ride?"
Imagine what she expects, because she knows and loves the movie?
Now look at her ride experience: Tiana in a safari get up, no Dr. Facilier, Naveen at the very end.
Essentially none of the beats that she knows from the film are hit.
When Naveen is present, he’s shoved in a corner (behind Tiana).
 

Brer Oswald

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They were never ever EVER going to retell the plot of the movie. Tiana is a frog for 80% of the film and that has been a constant complaint launched at the company. It would not look good for the “optics” of this change. We got an extremely “safe” overhaul because that’s what Disney wanted.
 

dreamfinding

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The emotional complexity of the original is a big reason this ride became so iconic, IMO. Having my dad drag me through the queue and force me to ride it (as only a wise, caring dad can) is a low-key formative memory of my childhood. I will never forget the feeling of triumph I had when I survived the big drop the first time.

I got to recapture that moment every time I rode it later in life, including with my own kids who were anxious and scared the first time.

I'm afraid the TBA sanitization has ruined the riders' ability to create that same level of emotional experience.
Emotional investment and eventual payoff.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

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Ok, name one in the last five years in the parks specifically, yes I know there a few examples on the studio side, but where is this "blaming the fans" because I haven't seen it recently.
Last year they tried to blame the heat and Covid travel for a significant decline in attendance in Florida…when the reality is they outpriced their market and turned off people with micro charges for rides.

They continue to try to spin that customers love genie…when in reality there’s zero evidence and it goes against common sense to even breathe it.
 

shambolicdefending

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Ok, name one in the last five years in the parks specifically, yes I know there a few examples on the studio side, but where is this "blaming the fans" because I haven't seen it recently.
I'm probably more thinking of the studio side, and expecting we may see a similar corporate reaction to this since the whole project is underpinned by simmering social issues.
 

dreamfinding

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Last year they tried to blame the heat and Covid travel for a significant decline in attendance in Florida…when the reality is they outpriced their market and turned off people with micro charges for rides.

They continue to try to spin that customers love genie…when in reality there’s zero evidence and it goes against common sense to even breathe it.
Bookings for the rest of 2024 are soft. Rooms aren’t being filled. Why do you think there’s almost always some sort of promotion?
 

Starship824

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In the Parks
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Last year they tried to blame the heat and Covid travel for a significant decline in attendance in Florida…when the reality is they outpriced their market and turned off people with micro charges for rides.

They continue to try to spin that customers love genie…when in reality there’s zero evidence and it goes against common sense to even breathe it.
Yeah, that's not attacking or blaming fans. It's misleading and false but they didn't specifically target the fans in either of those situations.
 

dreamfinding

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I'm probably more thinking of the studio side, and expecting we may see a similar corporate reaction to this since the whole project is underpinned by simmering social issues.
Corporate is going to read the YouTube comments and chalk it up to the #SaveSplash group. When in reality, it’s mostly coming from fans of PATF who want a quality product.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

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I don’t think Disney Parks has failed on this level in recent memory. The context for the ride replacement is based on spicy issues. I don’t think it’s a leap to believe that in order to quiet the negative noise, some type of clap back against the poor reaction will occur since they have no problem doing the same with their other properties.
The general consensus - it appears - is that the parks are underdelivering…

Now is that “blaming the cusomters”?
No.

But they aren’t doing what a well managed company does: which is immediately admit mistakes to regain trust and course correct asap.

Bob?
Nothing.

Not only are they hatching this stinker…they have nothing underway and are yielding the Orlando market to their competitors for the next few years at a minimum.

These are inexcusable mistakes.
 
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Sirwalterraleigh

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Yeah, that's not attacking or blaming fans. It's misleading and false but they didn't specifically target the fans in either of those situations.
Well parks are handled differently than content.

They have becoming notorious for ALWAYS blaming the customer for content failure…

Parks are handled as I said: they twist the reality to make it seem the customers “want it”…even disasters like genie.

They also don’t really comment on individual P&R components much. It’s “strength in numbers” that is always referred to
 
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