News Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

[BrerFoxesBayouAdventure]

It’s a shame you’re rooting for it to fail.

I actively want it to fail. I love the Br'ers and am very upset to see them go. If I was alive back then, I'd be actively rooting for Pooh's failure as well.

 

[MagicHappens1971]

I actively want it to fail. I love the Br'ers and am very upset to see them go. If I was alive back then, I'd be actively rooting for Pooh's failure as well.

I understand your viewpoint on the nostalgia and connection to the Brers but they’re gone and there’s nothing anyone can do to stop it or bring them back. Why root for the new attraction to fail? If anything they’d just replace it with another IP in 10-15 years

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

Well...right, because so many successful restaurants in 1920 New Orleans created a food co-op and then went into commercial food production...
Now if they do "Small World Shipping & Freight", they can equip the boats with QR guns so as you float through the attraction, children can track the packages that will be placed close to the flume to see where the boxes are heading...Imagine the fun! You can exit through a Fed Ex/Kinkos where guests can make copies or buy shipping supplies!View attachment 718310

Dude, enough.

 

[Bocabear]

If they made its a small world today I wonder how many people would find that preachy or woke?

As others have said, there would be a problem with how we see other cultures, but the message of Small World is not preachy and certainly not "woke"...it is naïve and sweet...It is as simple as "We all come from different places and cultures but we are all on this world together...a the world should be a friendly place" that's it... A simple message about brotherhood and humanity...
but now we don't want these sort of things...we want uber violent superhero characters and battles and wars...

 

[Incomudro]

I understand your viewpoint on the nostalgia and connection to the Brers but they’re gone and there’s nothing anyone can do to stop it or bring them back. Why root for the new attraction to fail? If anything they’d just replace it with another IP in 10-15 years

While I don't root for new attractions to fail, if say PatF were a budget cut shadow of Splash - and it's failure would lead Disney to learn from such a mistake - then yes, I would hope it would fail.

 

[neo999955]

A restaurateur is not necessarily a food manufacturing company president... I know several restaurateurs and none of them happen to own a food co-op or are commercially producing goods for the marketplace...

Right, just saying “20th century restaurateur becomes involved in food production” is not quite as ridiculous as “18th century French princess decides to sell Windex.”

I think the problem with the backstory is a food co-op just isn’t a place that sounds fun to visit. I’d love to visit Tiana’s Place, but a grocery store? That’s a chore, not a treat.

I’d love to visit a Belle library but would be much less excited to visit a Belle book publishing company. This feels like the latter, they created something that simply doesn’t sound fun.

But her dream was to have a restaurant...it is not a natural conclusion that she would then create a food co-op and employee owned commercial food manufacturing company... If she was always thinking of other businesses to create in the original film, then it might feel a little more authentic to her character... It is like saying Snow White enjoyed taking care of the 7 Dwarfs, so therefore when she had money and a prince, she would naturally open a home for indigent miners... or Rapunzel lived to paint, so therefore she would, with her big hair, become the mediaeval Bob Ross and create a line of art supplies and classes for the people in her town.... I think the storyline was a crazy leap in the plot that does not sound like a natural conclusion for the character at all...especially in 1920s New Orleans....

Others, like James, have pointed that your comparisons are increasingly unfair and honestly just weird. Plus, people are constantly changing and evolving. The idea that Tiana couldn't want to expand beyond running a restaurant because it was not explicitly stated in the film is absurd. Is it a very likely thing to happen in the 20s? Maybe not, but let's not bring in all the terrible realities of the 20s either. It's not some giant leap that makes no sense - plus, yes, it is empowering. Things can be empowering and boring, that's ok.

Is Tiana opening a co-op super exciting? No. Is the ride a walk-through of her co-op business? No. We know it's not. It's going to be a whimsical tale through the bayou featuring tons of animals playing music and telling a story.

You're putting such intense personal bias against the ride and the backstory. Try to open yourself up and think through what you're claiming as fact.

 

[GimpYancIent]

I actively want it to fail. I love the Br'ers and am very upset to see them go. If I was alive back then, I'd be actively rooting for Pooh's failure as well.

Nah. Failure? Guests will ride it and do it multiple times because it will be the same fun log flume ride it was before. The trappings, decorations AA's etc, will be different but the ride will be the ride. There will be no boycott of the ride.

 

[harryk]

What with all the space they have, as Walt Disney said, they could keep expanding the experience. Why did they not build the Princess and the Frog ride in the same area, thereby duplicating Splash Mountain with a different theme? After all they have two Dumbo rides side by side and that concept works. But, I guess that I'm forgetting - they can't keep the maintenance up on Splash - what would they do with 2 rides of the same nature.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Nah. Failure? Guests will ride it and do it multiple times because it will be the same fun log flume ride it was before. The trappings, decorations AA's etc, will be different but the ride will be the ride. There will be no boycott of the ride.

Agreed. It is a very fun log flume ride and can't wait for it to re-open.

 

[Tha Realest]

What with all the space they have, as Walt Disney said, they could keep expanding the experience. Why did they not build the Princess and the Frog ride in the same area, thereby duplicating Splash Mountain with a different theme? After all they have two Dumbo rides side by side and that concept works. But, I guess that I'm forgetting - they can't keep the maintenance up on Splash - what would they do with 2 rides of the same nature.

I suspect a Splash flume ride might not have been the first though/option when designing a PATF attraction from the ground up, but who knows?

 

[TheMaxRebo]

What with all the space they have, as Walt Disney said, they could keep expanding the experience. Why did they not build the Princess and the Frog ride in the same area, thereby duplicating Splash Mountain with a different theme? After all they have two Dumbo rides side by side and that concept works. But, I guess that I'm forgetting - they can't keep the maintenance up on Splash - what would they do with 2 rides of the same nature.

Because a key part of this is to change the theme of the current Splash Mountain from something Disney has deemed problematic - so there was no way they would leave Splash as it was and just add a new Tiana ride

Now, to say they should rethemed Splash to something else - even something more generic/no IP - and then give Tiana a brand new ride that certainly is a valid argument, but the main thing here is changing the theme of Splash and Tiana is just the theme picked to do that

 

[Disstevefan1]

I suspect a Splash flume ride might not have been the first though/option when designing a PATF attraction from the ground up, but who knows?

Agreed, they needed to erase Splash from existence, so they decided to reskin Splash with PATF and just make it work some how.

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

What with all the space they have, as Walt Disney said, they could keep expanding the experience. Why did they not build the Princess and the Frog ride in the same area, thereby duplicating Splash Mountain with a different theme? After all they have two Dumbo rides side by side and that concept works. But, I guess that I'm forgetting - they can't keep the maintenance up on Splash - what would they do with 2 rides of the same nature.

This perspective forgets that the inciting notion behind this transformation was doing away with the Song of the South property. Disney does not want to feature it in their parks anymore.

Every decision being made about the retheme is downstream of that goal. Which doesn't necessarily mean that any of the ideas that follow are lower in the heirachy of importance, just that the progression of ideas all stems out of that starting point. If Tiana got her own purpose-built ride next door Splash would still have closed.

 

[Brer Panther]

I just finished reading the Imagineering Story book by Leslie Iwerks.

At one point, it claims that the retheme was in the works "at least since 2016".

First of all, I think if it HAD been in the works since 2016 it would've been leaked to us like Runaway Railway, Cosmic Rewind, and so many other recent Imagineering projects were. Second of all, this is even MORE conflicting information regarding this retheme's development. I can't be the only one still suspicious about this, am I?

 

[Kamikaze]

IASW wouldn't even be made today because of so much anxiety about how other cultures are portrayed.

It would have to be made much differently.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

I just finished reading the Imagineering Story book by Leslie Iwerks.

At one point, it claims that the retheme was in the works "at least since 2016".

First of all, I think if it HAD been in the works since 2016 it would've been leaked to us like Runaway Railway, Cosmic Rewind, and so many other recent Imagineering projects were. Second of all, this is even MORE conflicting information regarding this retheme's development. I can't be the only one still suspicious about this, am I?

It had likely been mentioned as problematic but the George Floyd incident quickly changed that discussion into action.

I doubt there was anything like a plan because it took years after the announcement to do anything and the original concept art seems to have changed substantially.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

IASW wouldn't even be made today because of so much anxiety about how other cultures are portrayed.

I agree they’d never build this ride today, IASW is basically stereotypes and a lot of people consider stereotypes of any kind offensive now.

 

[MisterPenguin]

I just finished reading the Imagineering Story book by Leslie Iwerks.

At one point, it claims that the retheme was in the works "at least since 2016".

First of all, I think if it HAD been in the works since 2016 it would've been leaked to us like Runaway Railway, Cosmic Rewind, and so many other recent Imagineering projects were. Second of all, this is even MORE conflicting information regarding this retheme's development. I can't be the only one still suspicious about this, am I?

Yes, you're overly suspicious and you just called Leslie Iwerks a liar.

You won't be happy until a narrative comes out which makes Disney the bad guy in all this. Anything contrary to that narrative is dismissed by you without any evidence on your part.

 

[BrerFoxesBayouAdventure]

The ride will be the ride. There will be no boycott of the ride.

No it won't. That's like saying Mission Breakout is the same as the Tower of Terror or Runaway Railway is the same as TGMR. I'm tired of seeing this argument that the ride is the same solely because it shares the same system. I've never seen it used up until Splash Mountain and it just seems like people want to justify the retheme.

 

[Kamikaze]

No it won't. That's like saying Mission Breakout is the same as the Tower of Terror or Runaway Railway is the same as TGMR. I'm tired of seeing this argument that the ride is the same solely because it shares the same system. I've never seen it used up until Splash Mountain and it just seems like people want to justify the retheme.

I've (and lots of others) said it for many years about Dinosaur and IJA.