BasiltheBatLord
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IASW wouldn't even be made today because of so much anxiety about how other cultures are portrayed.If they made its a small world today I wonder how many people would find that preachy or woke?
IASW wouldn't even be made today because of so much anxiety about how other cultures are portrayed.If they made its a small world today I wonder how many people would find that preachy or woke?
You’re not wrong.IASW wouldn't even be made today because of so much anxiety about how other cultures are portrayed.
As far as we're aware, they're not making any real changes to the actual ride system, right?I’ve found if I ignore the convoluted backstory I stay pretty excited for this ride, if I think too much about the backstory I dread what they are doing though.
It’s pretty sad they came up with a story so ridiculously bad it creates dread rather than excitement for what will likely end up being a great ride. It would be hard to mess up a flume with a big drop but the backstory still has me a bit worried they’re building a social message rather than a ride.
If they made its a small world today I wonder how many people would find that preachy or woke?
Plug your nose, too. They're going to ram the smell of beignets down your nose holes.As far as we're aware, they're not making any real changes to the actual ride system, right?
You can close your eyes and plug your ears and it'll be just like you're still riding splash!
Plug your nose, too. They're going to ram the smell of beignets down your nose holes.
I’ve done it with earbuds and the California Screaming soundtrack. I still miss that music.As far as we're aware, they're not making any real changes to the actual ride system, right?
You can close your eyes and plug your ears and it'll be just like you're still riding splash!
I actively want it to fail. I love the Br'ers and am very upset to see them go. If I was alive back then, I'd be actively rooting for Pooh's failure as well.It’s a shame you’re rooting for it to fail.
I understand your viewpoint on the nostalgia and connection to the Brers but they’re gone and there’s nothing anyone can do to stop it or bring them back. Why root for the new attraction to fail? If anything they’d just replace it with another IP in 10-15 yearsI actively want it to fail. I love the Br'ers and am very upset to see them go. If I was alive back then, I'd be actively rooting for Pooh's failure as well.
Dude, enough.Well...right, because so many successful restaurants in 1920 New Orleans created a food co-op and then went into commercial food production...
Now if they do "Small World Shipping & Freight", they can equip the boats with QR guns so as you float through the attraction, children can track the packages that will be placed close to the flume to see where the boxes are heading...Imagine the fun! You can exit through a Fed Ex/Kinkos where guests can make copies or buy shipping supplies!View attachment 718310
As others have said, there would be a problem with how we see other cultures, but the message of Small World is not preachy and certainly not "woke"...it is naïve and sweet...It is as simple as "We all come from different places and cultures but we are all on this world together...a the world should be a friendly place" that's it... A simple message about brotherhood and humanity...If they made its a small world today I wonder how many people would find that preachy or woke?
While I don't root for new attractions to fail, if say PatF were a budget cut shadow of Splash - and it's failure would lead Disney to learn from such a mistake - then yes, I would hope it would fail.I understand your viewpoint on the nostalgia and connection to the Brers but they’re gone and there’s nothing anyone can do to stop it or bring them back. Why root for the new attraction to fail? If anything they’d just replace it with another IP in 10-15 years
A restaurateur is not necessarily a food manufacturing company president... I know several restaurateurs and none of them happen to own a food co-op or are commercially producing goods for the marketplace...
Right, just saying “20th century restaurateur becomes involved in food production” is not quite as ridiculous as “18th century French princess decides to sell Windex.”
I think the problem with the backstory is a food co-op just isn’t a place that sounds fun to visit. I’d love to visit Tiana’s Place, but a grocery store? That’s a chore, not a treat.
I’d love to visit a Belle library but would be much less excited to visit a Belle book publishing company. This feels like the latter, they created something that simply doesn’t sound fun.
Others, like James, have pointed that your comparisons are increasingly unfair and honestly just weird. Plus, people are constantly changing and evolving. The idea that Tiana couldn't want to expand beyond running a restaurant because it was not explicitly stated in the film is absurd. Is it a very likely thing to happen in the 20s? Maybe not, but let's not bring in all the terrible realities of the 20s either. It's not some giant leap that makes no sense - plus, yes, it is empowering. Things can be empowering and boring, that's ok.But her dream was to have a restaurant...it is not a natural conclusion that she would then create a food co-op and employee owned commercial food manufacturing company... If she was always thinking of other businesses to create in the original film, then it might feel a little more authentic to her character... It is like saying Snow White enjoyed taking care of the 7 Dwarfs, so therefore when she had money and a prince, she would naturally open a home for indigent miners... or Rapunzel lived to paint, so therefore she would, with her big hair, become the mediaeval Bob Ross and create a line of art supplies and classes for the people in her town.... I think the storyline was a crazy leap in the plot that does not sound like a natural conclusion for the character at all...especially in 1920s New Orleans....
Nah. Failure? Guests will ride it and do it multiple times because it will be the same fun log flume ride it was before. The trappings, decorations AA's etc, will be different but the ride will be the ride. There will be no boycott of the ride.I actively want it to fail. I love the Br'ers and am very upset to see them go. If I was alive back then, I'd be actively rooting for Pooh's failure as well.
Agreed. It is a very fun log flume ride and can't wait for it to re-open.Nah. Failure? Guests will ride it and do it multiple times because it will be the same fun log flume ride it was before. The trappings, decorations AA's etc, will be different but the ride will be the ride. There will be no boycott of the ride.
I suspect a Splash flume ride might not have been the first though/option when designing a PATF attraction from the ground up, but who knows?What with all the space they have, as Walt Disney said, they could keep expanding the experience. Why did they not build the Princess and the Frog ride in the same area, thereby duplicating Splash Mountain with a different theme? After all they have two Dumbo rides side by side and that concept works. But, I guess that I'm forgetting - they can't keep the maintenance up on Splash - what would they do with 2 rides of the same nature.
What with all the space they have, as Walt Disney said, they could keep expanding the experience. Why did they not build the Princess and the Frog ride in the same area, thereby duplicating Splash Mountain with a different theme? After all they have two Dumbo rides side by side and that concept works. But, I guess that I'm forgetting - they can't keep the maintenance up on Splash - what would they do with 2 rides of the same nature.
Agreed, they needed to erase Splash from existence, so they decided to reskin Splash with PATF and just make it work some how.I suspect a Splash flume ride might not have been the first though/option when designing a PATF attraction from the ground up, but who knows?
This perspective forgets that the inciting notion behind this transformation was doing away with the Song of the South property. Disney does not want to feature it in their parks anymore.What with all the space they have, as Walt Disney said, they could keep expanding the experience. Why did they not build the Princess and the Frog ride in the same area, thereby duplicating Splash Mountain with a different theme? After all they have two Dumbo rides side by side and that concept works. But, I guess that I'm forgetting - they can't keep the maintenance up on Splash - what would they do with 2 rides of the same nature.
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