News Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

Vegas Disney Fan

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Everyone is entitled to their opinion of course but when one says that MMRR is a better attraction than ROTR all I hear is “I prefer the Mickey theme/ Disney IP.”
I find the ROTR vs MMRR debates interesting because I always say ROTR is the better ride but when we are in the parks we go on MMRR more often.

ROTR is a more impressive ride but we find MMRR more fun.

“Better” is hard to quantify.
 

Brer Oswald

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And the primary marketing has been focusing on backstory, not the ride.

Applying what was said to about the backstory -- as if we were told this is what the ride is all about -- is mischaracterization.

And maybe, in some instances, a purposeful mischaracterization.
The primary marketing has been focusing on the backstory and that’s a mistake.

The only major benefit to retheme an already popular attraction would be a brand new marketing campaign. “It’s the exciting thrill ride , but now it’s based on a movie you know and love” would have been the logical approach to market to the general audience.

Instead they seem to be marketing to wannabe activists that double as Disney Diehards that visit the parks regularly anyways. And the rest of us are left confused by what they are doing.
 

Unbanshee

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Although looking again I will say if you zoom out of the new mural, the trees with the Spanish moss look beautiful. Are we sure this not a temporary banner to hide something behind it?

It appears to be something that is behind construction walls and out of view? If so, it wouldn't be a temporary banner, would it?
 

TrainsOfDisney

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I find the ROTR vs MMRR debates interesting because I always say ROTR is the better ride but when we are in the parks we go on MMRR more often.

ROTR is a more impressive ride but we find MMRR more fun.

“Better” is hard to quantify.
Yes. If we are talking more fun (and also more entertaining on re-rides) MMRR is the clear winner.

But Rise as a total experience is very impressive and the elevators and drop shaft are a really cool addition. I just wish the ride itself had more physical effects like fire, real lasers through fog, cryo, etc.
 

mickEblu

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I find the ROTR vs MMRR debates interesting because I always say ROTR is the better ride but when we are in the parks we go on MMRR more often.

ROTR is a more impressive ride but we find MMRR more fun.

“Better” is hard to quantify.

I agree with the sentiment although I find ROTR to be more fun too. I take better to mean objectively better or of higher quality. I know we live in a world where nothing is objective anymore but POTC is objectively a better attraction than the Astro Orbitor. It just gets more difficult to get a consensus the closer things are in quality and because bias.
 
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MisterPenguin

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So, I'm a latecomer to this and have heard this mentioned a lot, but when I search "salt dome", I get jagged striated mountains or those buildings used to house road salt back home in New York. Anyone got any information/images of the type of thing they seem to be invoking here?

Avery Island, as the name suggests, rises above sea level due to the salt dome. It's height is 163'.


Avery Island (historically French: Île Petite Anse) is a salt dome best known as the source of Tabasco sauce. Located in Iberia Parish, Louisiana, United States, it is approximately three miles (4.8 km) inland from Vermilion Bay, which in turn opens onto the Gulf of Mexico. A small human population lives on the island.​
Avery Island is surrounded on all sides by bayous (slow-moving, muddy rivers), salt marsh, and swampland; it sits about 130 miles (210 km) west of New Orleans.[6] The island was a sugar plantation formerly known as Petite Anse Island.[2] (Petite Anse means "Little Cove" in Cajun French.) Access to the island is via a toll road (technically a very low toll bridge), though a toll is no longer charged for visitors, including tourists.​
At its highest point, the island is 163 feet (50 m) above mean sea level.[6] It covers about 2,200 acres (8.9 km2) and is about 2.5 miles (4.0 km) across at its widest point.


Also, there's Lake Peignar which is next to Jefferson Island salt dome. It is the site of the famous salt mine sink hole disaster.

Anyhoos, Jefferson "Island" salt dome is 50 feet above the surrounding land. And now, much higher than the dry lake bed caused by the sink hole.


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Now, I couldn't find any resources to justify the historicity of turning people in to frogs or talking crocagators who can play horn. I'm sure all those looking for real-world evidence of what they see on a Disney ride are just as concerned about that.
 

SilentWindODoom

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Wild! Thanks so much! Seems legit.

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I find the ROTR vs MMRR debates interesting because I always say ROTR is the better ride but when we are in the parks we go on MMRR more often.

How much of that is a function of the wait time difference, the length of the experience, and the location of the park? Rise seems like a lot more of an investment whereas Runaway Railway can be passed several times during the course of a day.

The primary marketing has been focusing on the backstory and that’s a mistake.

The only major benefit to retheme an already popular attraction would be a brand new marketing campaign. “It’s the exciting thrill ride , but now it’s based on a movie you know and love” would have been the logical approach to market to the general audience.

Instead they seem to be marketing to wannabe activists that double as Disney Diehards that visit the parks regularly anyways. And the rest of us are left confused by what they are doing.

It seems like the squeakiest wheel is getting the grease. This appeals to the ones who considered the old ride a black eye for the company.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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How much of that is a function of the wait time difference, the length of the experience, and the location of the park? Rise seems like a lot more of an investment whereas Runaway Railway can be passed several times during the course of a day.
I think all those things are definitely factors, we are DL regulars so both rides are inconvenient to get to but we typically spend more time in (or near) toontown than Galaxy’s edge, that does give MMRR an edge on convenience, MMRR is typically also a 45- minute wait vs 60+ for ROTR which is also an edge, convenience and wait definitely impacts our likelihood of riding.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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Back to the subject of Tiana… the new mural lowers my expectations rather than raising them. The only thing we’ve seen so far that seems to be an improvement over Splash is the stonework in the queue.

The lack of updates from Disney means the only marketing for this ride is the coop story, the missing ingredient story, and what’s visible to guests, and so far it’s all been underwhelming.
 

mickEblu

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Back to the subject of Tiana… the new mural lowers my expectations rather than raising them. The only thing we’ve seen so far that seems to be an improvement over Splash is the stonework in the queue.

The lack of updates from Disney means the only marketing for this ride is the coop story, the missing ingredient story, and what’s visible to guests, and so far it’s all been underwhelming.

Painting gumbo iconography inside the rustic old mill doesn’t help establish a sense of time and place. It only detracts. They don’t make imagineers like they used to.
 

MerlinTheGoat

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To all the “the coop is just a backstory” folks, why are you ignoring what Disney’s published regarding the storyline for the ride? The on-ride continuation of the mural corroborates this is what we’re largely going to get:
The reason i'm ignoring claims of it being the central part of the main ride is because of what little we know of the interior scenes. That interior being what constitutes 90% of the actual ride, and is going to look like this-

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I've said from the very beginning that this co-op crap is going to fill out the queue and parts of the exterior. But that we know the interior of the ride is supposed to diverge into a more traditional musical critter dark ride.
 

mickEblu

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The reason i'm ignoring claims of it being the central part of the main ride is because of what little we know of the interior scenes. That interior being what constitutes 90% of the actual ride, and is going to look like this-

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I've said from the very beginning that this co-op crap is going to fill out the queue and parts of the exterior. But that we know the interior of the ride is supposed to diverge into a more traditional musical critter dark ride.

If it’s part of the queue and exterior its not just backstory though.
 

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