SuddenStorm
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Which, as you know, is sorta what happened to Micechat. The tone changed significantly over there once the press invites started happening.
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Tiana’s Bayou Adventure SPOILER Thread
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Which, as you know, is sorta what happened to Micechat. The tone changed significantly over there once the press invites started happening.
Tha Realest
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Arguably the most major character of this attraction (possibly coequal to Tiana) is an old voodoo priestess, a character also fraught with stereotypes. So I don’t see how she’s any more acceptable than Facilier.I always assumed Facilier isn’t in the ride for the same reason Splash had to be replaced- political things.
One side wanted Splash gone - the other would say Disney is pushing an alt-religion on their children if Facilier was featured (even in a bad light). These are the children (now parents themselves) whose own parents thought if they read Harry Potter and it would lead to a whole generation practicing witchcraft. It’s a little much for me - but I can see the headlines of certain news places in my mind ‘Disney pushes vodoo on children’- anything for a click these days!
At least Facilier’s voodoo is viewed as negative- Odie’s is cloaked as “good”
photomatt
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LOL. No comment.
erstwo
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Ah- Good point!
I think the goodness of Mama Odie blinded me to the fact that she’s voodoo too!
Dear Prudence
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I think Facilier isn't there because it's set in a post-film timeline, not because they care about being that respectful.
I just can't believe that they did Tiana that dirty like that...twice. :/
I just can't believe that they did Tiana that dirty like that...twice. :/
MagicHappens1971
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While I am generally happy with the attraction, this argument becomes invalid when we consider that Disney had full narrative control over this attraction. It could’ve 1) been told book report style, or 2) the story could’ve been told in a way that Dr. Facilier is still around. Disney chose to set the attraction after the movie takes place.
Casper Gutman
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It's corporate synergy nonsense, not some insidious political plot. This ride is intended to expand and advertise the extended PatF "universe," most notably the planned animated series, and Facilier (and Ray) aren't part of that. The attraction is a soulless ad.
mickEblu
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Right. They certainly could not have thought that the route they went was better. It also makes sense why Mama Sofìe is suddenly this really important main character everyone cares about. Or maybe- she’s just the “non problematic” character who does Magic.
MagicHappens1971
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I agree that it’s not an insidious political plot. They based the attraction (presumably) on tying into the new Tiana D+ show. I think the story of the attraction is a little confusing and lacking that “special spice” if you will. Overall I think visually it’s pretty attractive.
mickEblu
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How did they expand the universe exactly? With rocking generic critters? I’ve agreed with most of your takes but I think you’re off here.
MagicHappens1971
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I don’t believe Disney thinks Dr. Facilier is “problematic” if this was true he wouldn’t appear at MNSSHP & Oogie Boogie Bash. It was a narrative choice in the storytelling of this attraction.
Casper Gutman
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It doesn't expand it well, but that's what this and almost every other modern Disney attraction is trying to do. Why is Ray, a much more memorable character then Louis, absent? How about Naveen?
mickEblu
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Well Ray is singing from the dead somehow. Facilier, a fan favorite character who could have single handedly made the ride score much better is absent cannot compare to Naveen in a theme park dark ride. Facilier was made for this ride. Besides it’s Frog Naveen that’s really the memorable version from the movie. Who cares about human Naveen?
I disagree that Ray is more memorable than Louis.
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Dear Prudence
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They literally show Princess and the Frog on Freeform every other week.
mickEblu
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That's true but they can pull it off Freeform or D+ at the drop of a dime. To build a ride around the character is probably deemed to be an unnecessary risk. Remember Disney doesn't necessarily feel that he's problematic. They re worried that that one day people ( or like 3 people) might feel that he is. Clearly that is not a popular sentiment based on the YouTube comments.
Disgruntled Walt
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Yikes, we've devolved into correcting grammar. I think it's pretty clear your ice caps are melting on this one, Mister.bated. As in 'abated', i.e., stopped or held. Basically saying "I'm holding my breath."
This has been a fascinating day. Not good for WDI, but very interesting to participate in the discussion here.
For what it's worth, my source told me back in December that they were impressed with the virtual ride through they watched, so I had a fleeting hope that there would be something redeeming about this ride. But it's just whiff after whiff after whiff, with some nice animatronics thrown in. And some rocking animals. And a dead firefly singing his song. What an adventure!
Also, everyone, the reason these POVs don't do the ride justice is because we can't smell the beignets!
Gusey
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Disney does have a bad track record for POVs too. I remember the live streams for Harmonious basically missing the majority of the fireworks. The TBA POV was attached to the log, so didn't show all of the scenes that you would normally see by turning your head slightly, like the giant frogs.
Moth
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With how Disney moves these days? Any changes to this ride will happen post 2030.
HMF
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Here is my article on The rise and fall of Splash Mountain which includes my opinions on the new ride.
