lazyboy97o
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No, that was Iger. Staggs gets way too much credit for bringing back Seven Dwarfs Mine Train.Wasn’t it staggs that pushed Pandora to get built?
No, that was Iger. Staggs gets way too much credit for bringing back Seven Dwarfs Mine Train.Wasn’t it staggs that pushed Pandora to get built?
Yeah I think he’s run out of scapegoats and this gives him and the board some cover as barbicans are at the gates of Wall Street.Like I've mentioned before Staggs / Mayer are the best known outside entities that have enough working knowledge of The Walt Disney Company AND don't want to burn Disney to the ground in the process. Most everyone else would strip mine using the most destructive means possible. My take on this news is that apparently Iger has increased the offer high enough for Staggs / Mayer to be willing to engage.
PS: We need non-paywalled links please!
Correct. Staggs gets too much creditNo, that was Iger. Staggs gets way too much credit for bringing back Seven Dwarfs Mine Train.
You need to check your 20th century history. You’re reading chapters 1 and 3…but skipping the meat in chapter 2I'm not sure he's interested in parks being a legacy for him, he was CEO for Shanghai. I think he wants to cement his legacy in media and wants to be known as the CEO who set up Disney for the rest of the 21st century (like Walt for the 20th) in new media. He thought that was streaming but I'm willing to bet he's now heavily focused on linear products and the movie studios on their content pipeline.
Well, Iger does love China.I'm not sure he's interested in parks being a legacy for him, he was CEO for Shanghai. I think he wants to cement his legacy in media and wants to be known as the CEO who set up Disney for the rest of the 21st century (like Walt for the 20th) in new media. He thought that was streaming but I'm willing to bet he's now heavily focused on linear products and the movie studios on their content pipeline.
But China doesn’t love Disney product…neither the central committee…nor the peopleWell, Iger does love China.
I had the opportunity to talk through that once with someone at the table during the discussions on Potter way back when she was first talking about this (90's I think). JKR did not make it easy for Disney to agree - some of her demands were a bit nuts, especially for Disney at the time. Character appearances were a big red line for both sides, as I was told - WDE (Walt Disney Entertainment, who ran characters at the time) wanted the major faces to appear. JKR most certainly did not. Hogwarts being added to MK was another red-line. The scope and scale of the land vs attraction debate (Disney wanted smaller - attraction and a shop, maybe a bit more but not much) while JKR wanted what we got with Potter.Cause he did nothing for years and FUBAR’d the Potter thing.
I’d say she stood firm behind the appeal of her product…turns out she was right.I had the opportunity to talk through that once with someone at the table during the discussions on Potter way back when she was first talking about this (90's I think). JKR did not make it easy for Disney to agree - some of her demands were a bit nuts, especially for Disney at the time. Character appearances were a big red line for both sides, as I was told - WDE (Walt Disney Entertainment, who ran characters at the time) wanted the major faces to appear. JKR most certainly did not. Hogwarts being added to MK was another red-line. The scope and scale of the land vs attraction debate (Disney wanted smaller - attraction and a shop, maybe a bit more but not much) while JKR wanted what we got with Potter.
For Disney, especially in the 90's and early 2000's, JKR's vision for Potter was not a good fit. No synergy when they didn't own the other rights (especially the films), and she wanted a far bigger part of the parks than Disney wanted to use, plus the infamous level of creative control. It was not a single person on the Disney side screwing the deal up - it was a cultural choice. And we'll argue for decades as to if it was the right one.
The only thing they got right was the life size falcon - and even then they put a tacky fence around it and made it look pretty plastic.Their Star Wars land is frankly laughable and only beginning to rot in place. They built a permanent monument to everything they misunderstood/did wrong with the franchise.
Star Wars is ruined because there is no current viable plan to bring it back to theatres anytime in the foreseeable future. Disney bought that franchise to make movies with it, not D+ series. There is not a Star Wars movie currently past the script writing phase. That’s the failure, that’s the mismanagement. Why is there no movie in development? Diminishing returns of the sequels, creative differences with directors, aimless management by Disney. And to make HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS in licensed products. The license was always worth far more than the actual franchise.
Some of the land feels like itI think SWGE is pretty good. Needs another ride and maybe that sit down expansion, but I like it.
Hate the sequel trilogy, but the land feels like star wars.
Ideally the fix would be to add an attraction in one area that is focused on the original trilogy, and have the characters from that trilogy active in that area. If they did that, and did it well(yeah I know...), that would probably address most Star Wars fans issues.Some of the land feels like it
But a lot of it is what Disney “thinks”’it should feel like. Which is not what Star Wars fans believe. Let’s not nuance…theme parks are to give the fans what they want…not what you think they should want.
That’s way different than movies and tv…where you are expected to fan out and push the property in new directions.
It’s a land anchored by rides based off a terrible sequel exercise and a prequel that failed disastrously. Great call
Much less long term appeal than the prequels…which is insane to think knowing what we all know. And Disney knew it too.
Add in to the mix in Florida being attached to the biggest theme park disaster in the history of parks…and you really got “special sauce”
But drink the sand.
I agreeIdeally the fix would be to add an attraction in one area that is focused on the original trilogy, and have the characters from that trilogy active in that area. If they did that, and did it well(yeah I know...), that would probably address most Star Wars fans issues.
I would add, if they had separate missions on Smuggler's run, where you fly with or get coaching from Chewie and Han, that would also be fun.
never will happen though...
Iger the salesman sold his idea for China and Xi to buy into the theme park by repeating " authentically Disney, distinctly Chinese ".But China doesn’t love Disney product…neither the central committee…nor the people
Good call!
They “authentically” don’t seem to give a $&@!Iger the salesman sold his idea for China and Xi to buy into the theme park by repeating " authentically Disney, distinctly Chinese ".
I'm not impressed with the authentic food at China at Epcot. Cheap eats at NYC Chinatown blows it away with better quality minus the smallish dining areas, and not so clean locations.They “authentically” don’t seem to give a $&@!
Wow: respectfully disagree.I'm not impressed with the authentic food at China at Epcot. Cheap eats at NYC Chinatown blows it away with better quality minus the smallish dining areas, and not so clean locations.
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