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News The Walt Disney Company Board of Directors Extends Robert A. Iger’s Contract as CEO Through 2026
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Sirwalterraleigh
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Sirwalterraleigh
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They are all CRAP…they can’t write Star Wars when they have no one outside Dave filoni with even a clue…
And they have no one.
They couldn’t come up with a dogfighter story based in Star Wars with all the technical stuff established…
That’s like a hanging curveball down the Middle Easy
erasure fan1
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Exactly. I was there last week and I can now say it was underwhelming. The Falcon was cool to see. Rise was great when it was working. I thought Dok Ondars was cool to look around in, lots of star wars vibes for sure. But walking around the land, I never got that feeling I was so hoping to get. Like you said, some things did, but as a whole it's a letdown for sure. Did they do a great job with the quality of the work? Of course they did, it looks fantastic. It just doesn't feel like star wars.
I've said in the past, and I will maintain my thoughts that black spire wasn't necessarily the wrong choice. But if that's the hill you are going to die on, you sure as heck need to do better than a random name drop in a movie most didn't see and a comic book that no normal guest was ever going to know about, let alone read. It's like you said. Disney thought they could tell everyone what star wars is and they would just lap it up.
Sirwalterraleigh
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It was the abrams thing…
For some reason…and Lucas did it too…they thought people LOVE the distressed desert motif…
Its ok…but not the best environment.
And of course the obsession with the junkyard” look. The stuff is supposed to look “used”…it doesn’t have to be junk.
I thought the best approach would have been a “base” entry point and then somekind of story “transport” to starcruisers
Like the OG living seas…space 220…or more importantly hogwarts up the road.
Think an indoor “snow base”…or a forest one…then into a Star destroyer?
Lines down the block. The bobs pulling out all the benches in Disneyland would have actually been needed
I posted that on the collapsing disboards wwaaaaayyyy back before Bob had a chance to congratulate himself on buying the IP and then get to work on destroying it systematically
I’m such an “asset” Disney never uses
SamusAranX
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It’s still mind boggling really. 1. Pick the least loved trilogy by a mile and 2. Set it in a planet and environment nobody knows or has a fan attachment too.It was the abrams thing…
For some reason…and Lucas did it too…they thought people LOVE the distressed desert motif…
Its ok…but not the best environment.
And of course the obsession with the junkyard” look. The stuff is supposed to look “used”…it doesn’t have to be junk.
I thought the best approach would have been a “base” entry point and then somekind of story “transport” to starcruisers
Like the OG living seas…space 220…or more importantly hogwarts up the road.
Think an indoor “snow base”…or a forest one…then into a Star destroyer?
Lines down the block. The bobs pulling out all the benches in Disneyland would have actually been needed
I posted that on the collapsing disboards wwaaaaayyyy back before Bob had a chance to congratulate himself on buying the IP and then get to work on destroying it systematically
I’m such an “asset” Disney never uses
Imagine if Universal had set HP in some place that never existed in its own universe, and had a one line mention in a book. Aye carumba
Br0ckford
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The money the sequels made fooled them. Slap Star Wars on a video of paint drying and you're gonna make at least half a mil. Fans were hopeful with each movie but each one was a let down. That's why the sequels made anything. Disney and Star Wars. What could go wrong?
TrainsOfDisney
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The first one was pretty good. Not perfect but not a let down like the next 2!
erasure fan1
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They had a lot of options to integrate all of star wars and make everyone happy. I couldn't help but think how well the concept for rise would have worked if it was set in the return of the Jedi time frame. Imagine you start the queue in the Ewok village, and it ends at the shield generator. You are then captured just like it is now. There's a bunch of time that you can be brought to a star destroyer and have an encounter with vader before he goes to get luke. Unfortunately I'm just a fanboy of the OT and I've been told that people want the new, not the old.
Sirwalterraleigh
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It was the stupid reboots box office and their belief “anything works for these dumb Star Wars fans”The money the sequels made fooled them. Slap Star Wars on a video of paint drying and you're gonna make at least half a mil. Fans were hopeful with each movie but each one was a let down. That's why the sequels made anything. Disney and Star Wars. What could go wrong?
They had an “event” movie - thank George because of all the hate for 15 years since the prequels. And made a bland reboot with no franchise direction in it. A dead end.
The box office collapsed after. People try to gloss it…but it dropped like a rock. Merch and marketing disaster longterm. That’s why you never mess it up.
And they built based on the solo “trilogy”…which no one ever wanted.
Now they’re stuck with decayland. Retheme it now…rip off the bandaid.
Ok…off of Star Wars. The fact it’s always true won’t convince the 5 holdouts in moms basement who won’t believe their sweet Bobby and Kathy messed up
Sirwalterraleigh
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Yeah but Bob thinks HE made Star Wars. Only he can do it.They had a lot of options to integrate all of star wars and make everyone happy. I couldn't help but think how well the concept for rise would have worked if it was set in the return of the Jedi time frame. Imagine you start the queue in the Ewok village, and it ends at the shield generator. You are then captured just like it is now. There's a bunch of time that you can be brought to a star destroyer and have an encounter with vader before he goes to get luke. Unfortunately I'm just a fanboy of the OT and I've been told that people want the new, not the old.
Bob=Good
George=Bad
Empire and Jedi only sold a hundred billion or so of licensed merch over 40 years…why lean into that?
Ok…now I’m done
HMF
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I blame the haters more than I blame George. I am firmly in the camp that wishes Lucas never sold the franchise, Especially to Disney.
Sirwalterraleigh
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Sirwalterraleigh
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It was a really obvious remake where they killed one of the legendary characters, featured one who wasn’t up to it too much, and then tried to replace the one who was the backbone of the entire universe with a cheap, young copy…while having a 5 second clip of the original…
Gee…what really COULD go wrong?
Gary Kurtz didn't do that much. George's successes are George's successes, not other people's. George was the main engine with the original trilogy, just as much as the prequels. Kurtz was a total whiner who thought he did everything and did nothing but discredit him. Kurtz is a nonentity, truly.
The Disney era is in line with what George did, it follows his motifs and style considerably, more than any of the trolls and sheep care to admit. It's a perfect window of continuity in between each other, unlike how J.K. Rowling has trashed her own legacy.
Sirwalterraleigh
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What book did you read all that stuff in?
I didn’t mention Gary Kurtz…but I give you a solid for at least knowing his name
I can analyze content for myself and make my own opinion on things. Though in one case, it's well known, also, and DOES feature in books, that George was incredibly generous with credit even for things that were undoubtedly his alone. That's why Leigh Brackett has a credit on Empire, despite nothing of Brackett's being used. But the vision, the guiding force, everything was George and George's alone in the first six films. Not just the prequels, but also the original trilogy.What book did you read all that stuff in?
I didn’t mention Gary Kurtz…but I give you a solid for at least knowing his name
And in the case of Disney era, just watching the content, thinking about, taking it in, analyzing it, it's clear how faithful it is to George's vision. The treatment is not the be-all, end-all that determines "George was ignored." Not to mention, it also shows how "history rhymes" as well as "Those who don't learn from the past are condemned to repeat it." This is the most logical and credible way the the timeline would unfold, and refusal to accept that shows a lot about these individuals.
Because well adjusted people can say, "I thought this would be different, but I was wrong," learn from it and grow with that intellectual honesty. Not scream and kick and wail and say "I'm right, they ruined it, they're heretics."
Look at that stock price! Whooo!!!!
Oh wait, it's still $6/share lower than when Bob's second reign began, below $86/share at the moment. I bet the BoD is happy about that, since the stock options they were all granted at the end of June had a strike price of $89.17/share. Mark Parker got a larger grant than the rest, it would seem, based on the valuation that's $40k higher. The listing is a bit vague - "1k", but those that got "1k" have valuations that vary between $91.22k and $131.59k with the same per-share strike price.
Oh wait, it's still $6/share lower than when Bob's second reign began, below $86/share at the moment. I bet the BoD is happy about that, since the stock options they were all granted at the end of June had a strike price of $89.17/share. Mark Parker got a larger grant than the rest, it would seem, based on the valuation that's $40k higher. The listing is a bit vague - "1k", but those that got "1k" have valuations that vary between $91.22k and $131.59k with the same per-share strike price.
Tha Realest
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You know how many film projects were “in development” only to be unceremoniously canceled? It’s an atrocious batting average.
Sirwalterraleigh
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It’s also garbage PR…you keep saying “somethings coming” and nobody cares/watches the sheep anymore.
They keep doing that after they pooched it.
If you believe In “coincidence”