The Spirited Sixth Sense ...

[Nubs70]

Their school system does extensive work with bullying and the concept in theory is terrific. In implementation, it's a joke. So they have a no tolerance policy and the kids are supposed to report the kids that are bullying. OK, the kids do that and the teachers simply tell them things along the lines of "Johnny has certain developmental issues, or this problem, issues at home, etc." and nothing is ever solved. It's as if they foster even greater bullying because they have a whole campaign against it, which the bully is fully aware of, and there are absolutely no teeth behind the policy. The bully then knows that they can do as they please because there is virtually never a true punishment for their abhorrent behavior.

This is why I think the anti bullying campaigns will actually lead to an increase in school shootings and higher level violence.

The bullied rats out the bully. No real outcome befalls the bully except now he is not only dealing with a weaker target but also a target that is a rat. Other classmates see the bullied as not trustworthy and will isolate the bullied. Now the bully gains a degree of credibility with other classmates as his target is also a rat.

This will cycle up until the bullied snaps. Anti bullying campaigns do bring attention to a problem, but faced with inaction, only lead to increasing the problem it was designed to eliminate.

 

[lazyboy97o]

a lot of times i see surveys done where people are upset and unhappy with education but really like their kids individual teachers
for example, in our county there was a survey done where 70% of public had a negative view towards the school system but 90% of the people surveyed liked their kids teacher(s)....sometimes perception isnt reality

There is a similar phenomenon with Congress. Everybody seems to hate Congress and think they need to be voted out except

4. Build smaller schools.

This would help in other areas as well. Small schools built closer to where the children live would allow for more children to walk to school, increasing their level of daily physical activity. In cases such as the snow storm that crippled metro Atlanta, it would have let children get home because they would not have been dependent on a several mile bus ride.

 

[ford91exploder]

This is why I think the anti bullying campaigns will actually lead to an increase in school shootings and higher level violence.

The bullied rats out the bully. No real outcome befalls the bully except now he is not only dealing with a weaker target but also a target that is a rat. Other classmates see the bullied as not trustworthy and will isolate the bullied. Now the bully gains a degree of credibility with other classmates as his target is also a rat.

This will cycle up until the bullied snaps. Anti bullying campaigns do bring attention to a problem, but faced with inaction, only lead to increasing the problem it was designed to eliminate.

Back in the day one punched the bully in the nose (if one had the stones) and the bullying ended, Now current policies make the bullying worse until some kid snaps.

 

[lebeau]

WE ARE!

 

[Nubs70]

Wait a minute! Are we seriously looking to the director of The Village, Lady in the Water and After Earth for education reform?!?!

If so, things are worse than I thought.

Yes I am. I too had the same thought the same. I have yet to read the book as I only heard an interview. He spent 3 years researching and writing his findings. The findings are based on statistically significant data.

However, you should look at the education level of his immediate family. He comes from a twisted smart gene pool.

If your family comprised of several MD' s and PHD' s, I would take your posts with a little more credibility.

 

[jt04]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_of_Babel

 

[lebeau]

Yes I am. I too had the same thought the same. I have yet to read the book as I only heard an interview. He spent 3 years researching and writing his findings. The findings are based on statistically significant data.

However, you should look at the education level of his immediate family. He comes from a twisted smart gene pool.

If your family comprised of several MD' s and PHD' s, I would take your posts with a little more credibility.

Better start taking my posts a little more seriously then, pal. The lebeau clan is wicked educated.

 

[twebber55]

You don't really know what you are talking about about a Master's program in education. You should probably just be quiet.

my Masters in Education took two years...loved the courses i took from Advanced Educational Psychology to Educational Law were all very beneficial... probably enjoyed learning about Howard Gardners Theory of Multiple Intelligence the most

 

[ford91exploder]

You don't really know what you are talking about about a Master's program in education. You should probably just be quiet.

Actually I know a great deal about graduate degree programs after spending a decade as an academic officer at a Ivy League college, Interestingly enough the Ivy League does not tend to have 'Education' programs... I wonder why not.

DGM a Professor and there are a few PhD's in the family tree along with 25 or so patents, I know a lot about higher education. DFIL has a PhD in Library Science, DMIL has a Ms in Nursing and a Ms in Biology Did I mention DW is a teacher... I have a Ms in EE (a HARD subject)

The most telling thing about Master's in Education is they only take a year at most colleges offering them, Master's programs for other subjects take 2-3 years.

 

[Daannzzz]

Speaking of Walt Disney World.....

 

[danlb_2000]

Speaking of Walt Disney World.....

Wrong thread for that.

 

[CDavid]

They already tried that and it didn't work. What makes you think that it will now? I know that is what a number of us would like to see, but, since that ain't gonna happen, let's try and find a way to make what is there work.

Epcot Center did indeed work, even for years following the 1980's despite the remarkable lack of effort to keep the attractions up to date. Any attempt to say otherwise is simply revisionist history.

 

[ford91exploder]

Yeah seriously. Do you guys wanna maybe open a thread on chit chat about teachers and education? I think you would find it's a better fit than discussing it here


Back to WDW, does anyone know if Peter Pans flight will ever get a uh..facelift to go with the sparkly shiny new facades of New Fantasyland? I realize the next in line for refurb is the hub (greatly needed project) and the alternate walkways to the exit. Any chance Tomorrowland feels any love soon? Will we also get DL Tomorrowland redo if that one ever gets off the ground?

I certainly hope so - but it seems unlikely with DL getting all the love for the 60'th

 

[marni1971]

, let's try and find a way to make what is there work.

That's the problem. It needs a hell of a lot of work to make it work again...

 

[ford91exploder]

Epcot Center did indeed work, even for years following the 1980's despite the remarkable lack of effort to keep the attractions up to date. Any attempt to say otherwise is simply revisionist history.

Remember the Dining reservation system (That actually WORKED) unlike the current incarnation, I really miss the image lab, especially since 3-D free space holograms are starting to come into their own.

 

[The Mom]

This is supposed to be a thread about WDW News and Rumors. It has gone far astray, even by Spirited standards. How about everyone get back to discussing WDW? Thanks.

 

[twebber55]

'Personnel' costs eat up 89.4% of our county's OPERATING budget of $843 million (school funding takes up 55% of our county's budget). The catch is... personnel != 'teachers', but includes all staff. The problem in our schools is the bloated system. If you believe our school board's presentation of the facts, they claim their costs per student break down as

Instruction $9,351
Operation & Maintenance $1,068
Pupil Transportation $771
Administration $237
Technology $237
Attendance & Health $154
Facilities $47
Total CPP $11,865

But how they lump things is all the magic of budgets and presentations. I look at things like... in middle schools, we have 15 principles. Ok, seems legit... and then 29 assistant principles.. ok.. but then 43 'deans'... and then 87 'support staff'. That's just ONE category of expenses.. not where they stuff all the other non-teacher roles or other things you might expect like nurses, SE teachers, consoluers, etc. Sure paints a different picture then saying only $237 out of $11,865 per student goes to 'administration'.

Snapshots of top level facts
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Remember the nifty stat above showing 9 out 11 dollars per student is going to instruction? Yet when you look at all the other categories, that 9 out 11 drops to 471 out of 823..

The budget documents are such great pieces of art to paint pictures like 'oh look how much is going towards students! we barely spend any on non-student stuff' and they group and categorize things to make it difficult to really see simple things things Teachers vs everything else.

Feel free to numb your brain on our highly touted school system here

awesome info
I ve been playing phone tag with our school board member whom im goods friends with...trying to get some info on budget

 

[twebber55]

sorry..back on topic

 

[EPCOTCenterLover]

I'm not saying I do not enjoy Epcot. It is just now as powerful an experience as it once was. Now it seems to be a series of disjointed experiences that allow little time for thought regarding the concepts it explores.

"NOT as powerful an experience as it once was." Hate my lack of typing skills- and reading clearly before I post...

 

[danlb_2000]

So how much do people think that teachers who visit WDW on vacation should be payed? On topic now?