The Spirited Seventh Heaven ...

[Nemo14]

I had measles, mumps, and chicken pox, but the only one I have strong memories of having the measles. Like you said, back then, we all had them. One of my best friends in elementary school had polio and wore leg braces. She developed complications later in life from that too.

 

[The Mom]

I had measles, mumps, and chicken pox, but the only one I have strong memories of having the measles. Like you said, back then, we all had them. One of my best friends in elementary school had polio and wore leg braces. She developed complications later in life from that too.

Measles = bedrest, dark room, no TV (if you had one) reading, etc. Went out of your mind with boredom

Chicken pox - could have lights, watch TV, read, etc - but it was hard to turn the pages wearing the mittens your mom taped on your hands to keep you from scratching.

My first child was in the prime chicken pox years before the vaccine, so I tried to expose her to it. Spent a whole afternoon with two different friends - no luck. We have no idea who she finally got it from - one of the kids in a different class.

 

[BrerJon]

How much is it to go to Hong Kong, just out of curiosity of course.

Converting to USD, $58 for a one day pass, $75 for a two day.

 

[Nemo14]

Measles = bedrest, dark room, no TV (if you had one) reading, etc. Went out of your mind with boredom

Chicken pox - could have lights, watch TV, read, etc - but it was hard to turn the pages wearing the mittens your mom taped on your hands to keep you from scratching.

My first child was in the prime chicken pox years before the vaccine, so I tried to expose her to it. Spent a whole afternoon with two different friends - no luck. We have no idea who she finally got it from - one of the kids in a different class.

I was babysitting my niece when my kids were 4 and 6 months. One morning while I was bathing the baby, she was complaining that her back hurt(she complained a lot) so once I was done with him and got him dressed and fed, I looked at her back and she was covered with chicken pox. Needless to say, both kids got it a week or so later. The scary thing was that my husband never had them as a child, but apparently he's immune because all that exposure never got to him.

 

[BrerJon]

That said, Japan is probably more attainable, more US airlines use Japan as a hub so you can usually find airfare for a few hundred dollars cheaper.

Last time I checked a multi-stop flight - going to Hong Kong for a couple of days, then onto Tokyo, and changing in Hong Kong on the way back, can sometimes be the same price as a direct flight to Tokyo, so one could conceivably do a 'Disney Asia' 10 day escape break and cover both resorts in one go.

 

[PhotoDave219]

Spirited Thursday Musings:

I bash Big Business a lot, but some (very few, but some) CEOs actually do care about their consumers and will reach right out to them. In hospitality and travel sectors, I have found two things this week: USAir (which also means the 'New American') absolutely views you as cattle and themselves as the butcher (see premiere of Season 5 of The Walking Dead if you don't get the reference), while La Quinta (a budget chain that I have used maybe four times in my entire life) actually cares about their product, their guests and feedback (of any kind).

Just back from the local Starbucks where a lawyer was sitting behind us and had UNI receipts in his hands, a client at a table and was emailing ...

(EDITED FOR YOUR PROTECTION --)

Speaking of which, you are really scraping the bottom of the toilet for material when you decide to go for a 'mythical fifth gate' rumour. Seriously, it ain't happening. Not now. Not in the next decade. Very likely not ever. Sorry. You look stupid and desperate when you state otherwise.

Anyone know if Georgie K was at the groundbreaking at Flamingo Crossing today? If not, who was the highest level Disney rep on site?

No, I don't read a thing into Soup & Salad Sandra's story here: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/us-world/ about the owner of these franchises Marriott suite hotels wanting to have seven total on site. The guy simply feels that he can corner a market (one that doesn't exist, but is an easy enough sell) there because no one else (and that covers well ... a whole lot of folks) has had any interest in a project that was announced in 2007. In case you didn't notice, we're 2.5 months away from 2015 now.

Speaking of calendars, fall officially arrived in SoFla at the Spirit Cave in the early hours of today (Oct. 16th). It's so beautiful outside that it almost reminds me of California. Almost. The humidity and highs close to 90 aren't due back until Sunday.

This Ebola Hysteria is absurd, totally. I saw a headline that said schools in Cleveland and Dallas were closed today. ***?!?! Seriously, how many people have died of the flu this month in the USA? How many have died of simply not getting adequate medical care (don't tell anyone in Texas, but we aren't in the Top 10 of medical care in our wittle capitalist society here!)? ... One thing that is abundantly clear, though, and that is if a real crisis happens from ebola to terrorism to natural disaster, we are not at all prepared and chaos and anarchy will rule. Sorry, that's just reality. ... To see how totally unprepared for an ebola patient this hospital was and to see that workers who came in contact weren't prohibited from getting on a commercial airliner, speaks volumes. ... I am sure heads will roll as surely as Wall Street bankers went to jail after our economic collapse.

So, yeah, those oil companies are really panicking at the thought of gas being under $3 a gallon for most of the country come November.

Don't know if you saw, but Alain over at Disney and More had a long report on the future plans for Euro Disney/DLP and they are dead accurate (and much of what I have told you before). Not saying they are all going to happen, but there currently are more long-term plans for DLP than there are for WDW. Take that for what it is worth. BTW, when will the Twit fanbois get it through their thick skulls that this has always been the plan, that DLP has never been in danger of shutting down?

So, someone sent a note saying MM+ was ''dead in the water again'' and I see a thread about it, so I guess we crash together again. MAGICal.

No, I did the Orlando city soccer groundbreaking. Smoke bombs and all

 

[flyerjab]

I remember having chicken pox - parents actually wanted their kids to get it back then, because it was so much worse when you were older. I don't remember having measles, but my titer says I either had them or had enough exposure to have immunity. The same with mumps. I survived the polio epidemic of 1955, and of course had polio vaccinations as soon as they were developed- both shots and sugar cubes. Knew people who had it, including a friend's mother who was paralyzed (she was hanging clothes outside and suddenly dropped - my friend just kept screaming until a neighbor came - great first memory, eh?) and had a chest compression respirator at home, and needed to go into an iron lung when hospitalized. She had 5 sons, including a newborn - who ended up with paralysis of one leg. When she was hospitalized the last time (in the late 70s, when she died) no one knew how to set up the iron lung they had in the basement of the hospital, so her adult son had to set it up. There were other young people in my neighborhood who wore leg braces and needed crutches.

There is no way I would think twice about getting my children vaccinated!!!

As someone who helps manufacture vaccines, I love the last sentence in your quote.

 

[PhotoDave219]

I know it's hard to believe, but Steve has a real business - and this isn't it. Just like I have a real life - and no, I don't get paid for moderating. But a free trip on one of the Disney cruise lines would be greatly appreciated - if anyone from Disney is reading. Hint, hint, nudge, nudge.

Well I like to make sure you don't get bored moderationg

 

[BrerJon]

Plenty of people do.

I'll be honest, since before it opened I wanted to go to TDL as a child. It was a travel dream of mine. But so was visiting the amazing city that is home to it.

I think it depends on where you live and whether you've been to Japan before or not.

If flight costs weren't too far different (say for someone who lives in Europe), and a person has a desire for a pixie-dust fix I'd say it makes *more* sense to go to Japan for a week and just do Disney than going to Orlando and just doing Disney, as the parks are so much better in Tokyo and you get more bang for your buck.

Obviously anyone who goes on a once in a lifetime trip to Japan and doesn't venture outside Tokyo Bay is missing out, but the sort of person who takes the Magical Express to WDW for a week and doesn't venture off-property might as well go to Tokyo and do the same, if it's the same price for either trip.

 

[raymusiccity]

Why would that be dubious? I'd venture to say that most of the pages of this thread have posts worth reading (and that is taking all of mine out).

This isn't a 'Disney Makes You Feel ...' thread or one of those typically mindless ones.

I'll repeat that I opened this thread with heavy news and have posted plenty since as have numerous others.

This isn't a 1,000-page ego trip/fodder for a book (that I was told was being co-authored by Michael 'Card Walker's Best Friend' Crawford) like say a certain ex-Imagineer's thread. And, FWIW, I still loved much of that thread.

It was meant to be lighthearted, hence, the smiley face.

I've enjoyed all these many pages and wish you several thousand more!

 

[TalkingHead]

So kids, back onto the topic of theme park social media ...

On a competing forum, a contibutor to a defunct lifestyler/rumor site posted how he was confronted at Universal and kicked out for his association with it. (Shortly after they posted rumors of Star Trek coming to US, for what it's worth.) The ban was lifted when the site was taken down.

Interesting anecdote, and raised all kinds of red flags for me. This isn't the first time* I've heard UNI has a team of G Gordon Liddy like "plumbers" who take what I can only describe as an unhealthy interest of social media bloggers/Tweeters/posters. It's troubling on many levels to me--they're pushing around teen kids in some cases, but do they pull the same sort of thing with the Sentinel? If Seth Kubyerski put out the real reason Bayou of Blood show was killed, would he continue to get such good access? Really, I'm not sure Celebration Avenue is the most corrupt game in town right now.


*The first time guy occasionally posts on here; won't out him, but if he wants to share I think his story is even more interesting.

It's interesting that UNI seems to antagonize its most hardcore lifestylers, while WDW seems to enable its addicts. For whatever reason, WDW's tactics seem to bother me more. But, then again, I haven't been antagonized by any UNI rent-a-cops. I'm sure if I was, it'd leave a bad taste in my mouth.

So what happened with Bayou of Blood?

 

[TalkingHead]

That's not IP. Like it or not, it's legit corporate news. Even if it is reported by teenagers.

Was it news, or was it BS?

 

[raymusiccity]

No worries, not targeted to you, just a general overarching statement... it is slightly crazy. Even if that's someone's "thing" there is still a lot of theme-park-esque things to do in those cities that impress just as equally - if not more.

I'm a big fan of trains, trams, boats, gondolas, cable cars, biking etc. Day trips that form a circuit utilizing several of those with some major landmark and/or photo opportunities along the way are always my favourite days. No magic band required.

I can totally relate to being a big transportation fan. One of my favorite Disney memories is Mickeys RR at Ft. Wilderness ( back in the day ). Tickets cost .25 !

 

[Phil12]

I remember having chicken pox - parents actually wanted their kids to get it back then, because it was so much worse when you were older. I don't remember having measles, but my titer says I either had them or had enough exposure to have immunity. The same with mumps. I survived the polio epidemic of 1955, and of course had polio vaccinations as soon as they were developed- both shots and sugar cubes. Knew people who had it, including a friend's mother who was paralyzed (she was hanging clothes outside and suddenly dropped - my friend just kept screaming until a neighbor came - great first memory, eh?) and had a chest compression respirator at home, and needed to go into an iron lung when hospitalized. She had 5 sons, including a newborn - who ended up with paralysis of one leg. When she was hospitalized the last time (in the late 70s, when she died) no one knew how to set up the iron lung they had in the basement of the hospital, so her adult son had to set it up. There were other young people in my neighborhood who wore leg braces and needed crutches.

There is no way I would think twice about getting my children vaccinated!!!

I presume you got your shingles vaccine?

 

[Goofyernmost]

I'll repeat that I think that anyone who posts ''Disney is a business ...'' should be immediately banned from this site (listening @wdwmagic?) and then we should beat them up at recess, steal their lunch money and give them a wedgie that makes mom have to take them to the pediatrician to example their balls. Really!

Well, Disney is a business... so go ahead a "attempt" all those things that you are going to do to me and then..."prepare to die". See, anybody can talk tough.

 

[Lee]

How is that even possible?!?!

Are you an alien?

BTW, wanna know a secret about @Lee (c'mon, y'all get close and no one tell him) but the dude had something like a 23-year no vomit streak going (DCL took care of that, seriously!)

True story.
They took me down with some undercooked lobster.

I got my revenge, though. I'm pretty sure our stateroom is a sealed-off biohazard zone to this day...

 

[burgess]

Having been, I'd say you must allow yourself at least two non-Disney days for every day you plan to visit Tokyo Disneyland. Just study the calendar and find a time to visit when the parks aren't way too crowded, so you can feel like you saw what you wanted to.

 

[TP2000]

BTW, y'all recall when Franklin was sent packing earlier this year, right? It was probably because the guy couldn't dress to save his life, right @TP2000 ?

Right. When you go in front of news cameras as the Executive Vice President launching a Billion dollar program, you roll down your sleeves and put on a coat. That's a rule. You get to break that rule only if you are Steve Jobs (RIP) or you own the company and have over a Billion more dollars in the bank.

If you don't follow that rule, you and your Billion dollar project are doomed. Per TP2000.

One strong-willed UNI fanboi kept telling me he was leaving Disney of his own accord and that he was basically a great exec and headed to NBC/UNI. One would think if that were the case that it would have made a few headlines.

Or at least shown up on his LinkedIn page. https://www.linkedin.com/profile/vi...00060,VSRPtargetId:343509866,VSRPcmpt:primary

Two key bullets I pulled from Nick Franklin's public LinkedIn page...

Select Achievements:


• Tapped by senior management and the Board of The Walt Disney Company to act as an entrepreneurial, internal CEO to lead the Next Generation Experience, a $1B total transformation of the global customer experience for Disney Parks & Resorts.

• Built and led a team of more than 1,000 creative, operations and technical professionals in creating, evangelizing and implementing a new customer experience vision marketed as MyMagic+. Key products include MagicBands and MyDisneyExperience.

It appears the "internal CEO" in charge of NextGen got the axe before the project was even completed. Yeah... that's not a giant warning flag surrounded by flashing sirens that something went wrong, and still is wrong, with NextGen and what Burbank expected it to do.

Nothing to see here folks, move along, the 3 O'clock parade is at 3 O'clock today.

 

[PhotoDave219]

Was it news, or was it BS?

No, Ive heard much of the similar stories but independently of Jason.

They are ruthless about leaks.

 

[SirLink]

Yep. Saw it and while I hate the network and am not that fond of ole Shep (he was down here in the Miami market for years before he went national) I think he was dead on about the whole thing.

There is no reason for ANYONE (beyond those Dallas healthcare workers) to panic and I could argue that even those folks shouldn't ...

Well if you compare it to the treatment of the British chap over here in the UK - none of the medical staff contracted Ebola who treated the gentleman. So one has to wonder how are they treating patients in Dallas...