lazyboy97o
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There is a clip of Sherpard Smith going around that is quite good. He is not amused by the panic or politicking.
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ford91exploder
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What everyone seems to forget is that Disney was not a business in 1971 when Roy Disney opened the Magic Kingdom with a Parks & Resorts (P&R) gross margin of 24.4%.
Disney was not a business in the 1970s and 1980s under Donn Tatum and Card Walker when Epcot was opened and P&R gross margin averaged 18.8%.
Disney was not a business in the 1980s, 1990s, and 2000s under Michael Eisner when DHS, DAK, TL, and BB were opened and P&R gross margin averaged 22.2%.
Nope, nope, not a business.
It's only in the last 9 years since Bob Iger took charge and opened squat at WDW producing an average P&R gross margin of 15.0% that Disney suddenly has become a business.
@ParentsOf4 it's plain that WDW was a mismanaged not-for-profit enterprise until Iger came around
I don't know, but I have heard similar. Someone I thought was a friend and had ties to UNI told me that I needed to watch whatever I posted. It didn't change a thing. I post what I can when I feel it is safe to do so. No one at UNI has ever contacted me. I have no idea who over there knows my 'super secret' identity where at Disney I am under the impression that everyone knows who I am. I know too many people at the highest levels of TDO who absolutely know who I am (like Andy 'Hale and' Hardy's partner) For years, I know the low/mid level grunts had no clue who I was (like the folks who work in social media) but a few mentally disturbed (should that be unsaid?) Lifestylers/Bloggers spouted off like a whale coming up for air (or a 12-year-old who discovers 'net !) trying to better their slots on Disney's 'List' ...
Back to your point, I don't know what I've put out that could off UNI's media folks, although I'm sure they don't like stuff getting released. I think they're more focused on UNI-centric sites, major Lifestylers, UNI Twits etc.
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BrianLo
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Without the use of points it would most likely run you a few thousand (total, the flight is about ~1200). Hong Kong from a commodity/food/park admission perspective is very affordable, but hotel costs I find are fairly expensive. I'm also speaking from someone whose hub city for flights would be Toronto (with Chicago and New York being fairly accessible). It will vary the further West and the closer you are to a major hub city with frequent service and airline competition.
That said, Japan is probably more attainable, more US airlines use Japan as a hub so you can usually find airfare for a few hundred dollars cheaper. Plus the partner hotels are actually affordable at key times of the year (that don't necessarily contradict North American vacation time). Of course, HK transit is fantastic, anywhere remotely near one of the subway stations will very easily get you to Disney within 30 minutes, and I find taking the rail spur in the best way to arrive. But, like I said, it's not just Disney hotels, it's hotels in HK period that are pricey.
HKDL is still not a destination, it's the bonus along with spending quality time in a wonderful city with a ton of great tourist attractions and a really great tourism board. Tokyo Disney *could* be the destination with some mandatory sightseeing being the icing on the cake. I really wouldn't recommend anything more than two 3/4 days at HKDL and a four day pass at Tokyo though. Still, it's not Orlando, there are very, very worthwhile things seeing outside of theme parks there.
Shanghai, Tokyo and Hong Kong are my three favourite big Asian cities, less to do with Disney occupying them and more to do with Disney sharing my good tastes...
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Yep. Saw it and while I hate the network and am not that fond of ole Shep (he was down here in the Miami market for years before he went national) I think he was dead on about the whole thing.
There is no reason for ANYONE (beyond those Dallas healthcare workers) to panic and I could argue that even those folks shouldn't ...
Nubs70
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Then Kippel doesn't know the difference from his ear hole or his brown eye. The stats that are being cited are the most simple basic metrics found in business. Whether you are selling cars, tooth picks, Apple pie, or , margin is margin.Well, to be fair, it is being run like most other poorly run businesses in 2014 Corporate America. No one looks at the underlying fundamentals. They focus on numbers that often are tortured until they say anything ... look at what you do with them?!?!! You make it seem like Disney P&R are not being run well and that isn't the case at all because Phil Kippel told me so
I know it's hard to believe, but Steve has a real business - and this isn't it. Just like I have a real life - and no, I don't get paid for moderating.
But a free trip on one of the Disney cruise lines would be greatly appreciated - if anyone from Disney is reading. Hint, hint, nudge, nudge.
Got ya beat - I've gone from 1951 to 2014 without getting the flu.
How is that even possible?!?!
Are you an alien?
BTW, wanna know a secret about @Lee (c'mon, y'all get close and no one tell him) but the dude had something like a 23-year no vomit streak going (DCL took care of that, seriously!)
I've had a couple of kids, so I can't beat his no vomit streak.
I think growing up in a crowded, no central heat house in New England with every sort of mammalian, reptilian, and avian pet imaginable has given me the immune system of a goddess.
Nemo14
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Teaching school will do that too...
I know it's hard to believe, but Steve has a real business - and this isn't it. Just like I have a real life - and no, I don't get paid for moderating.
Contact one of the fine folks at CP and offer to ax me from the site ... that might help. And remember that not only is Disney PR and Social Media based at CP, but so too is the DCL (and Karl Holz just loves me ... loves me ... you've never lived until you've heard his venom and hatred coming thru a phone call all because he couldn't do his job and offended the mayor of Shanghai and his wife and, more importantly, my family!)
BTW, to my Twitverse 'friends', I am making this all up and everyone knows I'm a fraud!!!! Yep ...
Mike S
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Oh I know there's more to see than theme parks. My upcoming trip to Disneyland also includes LA and Las VegasWithout the use of points it would most likely run you a few thousand (total, the flight is about ~1200). Hong Kong from a commodity/food/park admission perspective is very affordable, but hotel costs I find are fairly expensive. I'm also speaking from someone whose hub city for flights would be Toronto (with Chicago and New York being fairly accessible). It will vary the further West and the closer you are to a major hub city with frequent service and airline competition.
That said, Japan is probably more attainable, more US airlines use Japan as a hub so you can usually find airfare for a few hundred dollars cheaper. Plus the partner hotels are actually affordable at key times of the year (that don't necessarily contradict North American vacation time). Of course, HK transit is fantastic, anywhere remotely near one of the subway stations will very easily get you to Disney within 30 minutes, and I find taking the rail spur in the best way to arrive. But, like I said, it's not just Disney hotels, it's hotels in HK period that are pricey.
HKDL is still not a destination, it's the bonus along with spending quality time in a wonderful city with a ton of great tourist attractions and a really great tourism board. Tokyo Disney *could* be the destination with some mandatory sightseeing being the icing on the cake. I really wouldn't recommend anything more than two 3/4 days at HKDL and a four day pass at Tokyo though. Still, it's not Orlando, there are very, very worthwhile things seeing outside of theme parks there.
Shanghai, Tokyo and Hong Kong are my three favourite big Asian cities though, less to do with Disney occupying them and more to do with Disney sharing my good tastes...
I wouldn't go all the way to Japan or Hong Kong and only do Disney. That's crazy.
That is truly amazing. One helluva great immune system. You should think about selling some blood (at premiums, of course!)
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Nemo14
Well-Known Member
in exchange for a cruise...
Oh I know there's more to see than theme parks. My upcoming trip to Disneyland also includes LA and Las Vegas
Plenty of people do.
I'll be honest, since before it opened I wanted to go to TDL as a child. It was a travel dream of mine. But so was visiting the amazing city that is home to it.
I get people who take WDW or UNI or just plain theme park and beach vacations to Central Florida. What else is there?
But taking a vacation to DLR? Or DLP? Or HKDL? Or even TDR? ... Sorry, but I think that's just OCD and childish behavior.
BrianLo
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Oh I know there's more to see than theme parks. My upcoming trip to Disneyland also includes LA and Las Vegas
No worries, not targeted to you, just a general overarching statement... it is slightly crazy. Even if that's someone's "thing" there is still a lot of theme-park-esque things to do in those cities that impress just as equally - if not more.
I'm a big fan of trains, trams, boats, gondolas, cable cars, biking etc. Day trips that form a circuit utilizing several of those with some major landmark and/or photo opportunities along the way are always my favourite days. No magic band required.
BrerJon
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Wait... Jar Jar Binks got Ebola in Shanghai? Man this thread is tough to follow sometimes.
I remember having chicken pox - parents actually wanted their kids to get it back then, because it was so much worse when you were older. I don't remember having measles, but my titer says I either had them or had enough exposure to have immunity. The same with mumps. I survived the polio epidemic of 1955, and of course had polio vaccinations as soon as they were developed- both shots and sugar cubes. Knew people who had it, including a friend's mother who was paralyzed (she was hanging clothes outside and suddenly dropped - my friend just kept screaming until a neighbor came - great first memory, eh?) and had a chest compression respirator at home, and needed to go into an iron lung when hospitalized. She had 5 sons, including a newborn - who ended up with paralysis of one leg. When she was hospitalized the last time (in the late 70s, when she died) no one knew how to set up the iron lung they had in the basement of the hospital, so her adult son had to set it up. There were other young people in my neighborhood who wore leg braces and needed crutches.
There is no way I would think twice about getting my children vaccinated!!!