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[Nubs70]

Well if you compare it to the treatment of the British chap over here in the UK - none of the medical staff contracted Ebola who treated the gentleman. So one has to wonder how in the blue balls are they treating patients in Dallas...

Several different possibilities.

1. British had appropriate PPE.
2. British had more appropriate facilities.
3. British had better training. US nurses were shown a CDC training video about 2 weeks back. That constituted training.
4. A different strain of virus. I have noticed the CDC has changed from using "direct contact" to "proximity"

 

[The Mom]

I presume you got your shingles vaccine?

The vaccine isn't as effective as I would hope, but yes, I got it. Again, I've seen how bad it can be if you do get it - my grandmother, husband, and two SILs have had it to varying degrees.

I just never got the flu vaccine but will start getting it in a couple of years, when I'm in the prime age group at risk for dying. I'm at very low risk right now - SAHM, no children (vectors) at home, rarely go to crowded places. And that great immune system. My husband is at high risk, so he gets one every year.

 

[RivieraJenn]

Well if you compare it to the treatment of the British chap over here in the UK - none of the medical staff contracted Ebola who treated the gentleman. So one has to wonder how are they treating patients in Dallas...

The healthcare workers caring for patients in Atlanta and Omaha also did not contract Ebola. Dallas botched the thing from top to bottom.

 

[The Mom]

Well if you compare it to the treatment of the British chap over here in the UK - none of the medical staff contracted Ebola who treated the gentleman. So one has to wonder how are they treating patients in Dallas...

Did he die? That is the major difference. The patient is super, super contagious when dying, which is also when they need the most hands on care.

Also, the other patients were transferred in from one hospital to another - with the receiving hospital knowing they were arriving, and having a plan, protection, etc. In Dallas, he just walked in the door, unannounced. Did they blow it by not admitting and isolating him soon enough. Yes. But, no one in the US expected an Ebola patient to just show up on the doorstep - even if he had walked into Emory or the hospital in Omaha things might have played out in a similar fashion.

We were all lulled into a false sense of security, believing that the only cases that would arrive here would be US healthcare workers who would be transported securely every step of the way, with no chance of their coming into contact with anyone who was not prepared. No one, at any hospital, expected patients to just show up at the door, unannounced. We were told that the likelihood of that happening was miniscule, and not worth worrying about.

 

[flyerjab]

Flu, ebola, @Lee 's love for SHIELD and puking. At least the one WAWA/Italian hoagie discussion made me hungry. I am finding that this is having the opposite effect.

Really hoping that someone either posts overhead (again - note the skillful avoidance of the term aerial) shots of Pandora or someone spills some more specific beans about the upcoming DHS transformation.

 

[doctornick]

Really hoping that someone either posts overhead (again - note the skillful avoidance of the term aerial) shots of Pandora or someone spills some more specific beans about the upcoming DHS transformation.

I'm surprised we haven't had leaks with some information regarding the DHS plans. All we know is the third track for TSMM, talk of the BAH moving and some vague notion of Pixar stuff coming to the former Backlot Tour space.

I'm kind of curious as to when any sort of official announcement might be coming as well. D23 next summer is a while away and I kinda feel like they'd want to generate some excitement before them by at least announcing non-specific stuff (like "more Pixar coming to DHS" and maybe the park name change) with more specific concept art or attraction info being released at D23.

 

[ford91exploder]

Did he die? That is the major difference. The patient is super, super contagious when dying, which is also when they need the most hands on care.

Also, the other patients were transferred in from one hospital to another - with the receiving hospital knowing they were arriving, and having a plan, protection, etc. In Dallas, he just walked in the door, unannounced. Did they blow it by not admitting and isolating him soon enough. Yes. But, no one in the US expected an Ebola patient to just show up on the doorstep - even if he had walked into Emory or the hospital in Omaha things might have played out in a similar fashion.

We were all lulled into a false sense of security, believing that the only cases that would arrive here would be US healthcare workers who would be transported securely every step of the way, with no chance of their coming into contact with anyone who was not prepared. No one, at any hospital, expected patients to just show up at the door, unannounced. We were told that the likelihood of that happening was miniscule, and not worth worrying about.

Well at least SOME of us in emergency management started sweating bullets when we learned about the outbreak and knew it was only a matter of time before it got here and that we were woefully unprepared at any level to contain infectious disease.

 

[ford91exploder]

The healthcare workers caring for patients in Atlanta and Omaha also did not contract Ebola. Dallas botched the thing from top to bottom.

Atlanta and Omaha are facilities designed to treat BSL4 pathogens they are 2 of the 4 in the US with a grand total of 23 beds Not surprised no secondary infection occurred these staff are trained to deal with these pathogens and they have the proper PPE.

 

[ford91exploder]

you seem to be an expert on many topics

I'm not i'm an Engineer/Analyst my training is to analyze large complex systems and suggest courses of action to fix them and/or make them fail-safe.

I volunteer for the local Emergency management bureau and we run exercises on various scenarios most of which would curl your hair and make you want to crawl into a hole and pull it in after you. Recently most of them have centered on biological attacks and dirty bombs. So yeah I do have access to more information than the average person and I try to share it as much as possible.

It's the way I serve MY community and one of the ways I get my intellectual stimulation. I wish MORE people would volunteer for this type of role instead of cocooning themselves with sports and mindless entertainment.

Disney has always been my preferred method of 'Checking Out' from reality, Mainly because my version of reality is not pleasant.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Disney has always been my preferred method of 'Checking Out' from reality, Mainly because my version of reality is not pleasant.

It seems that a lot of people's vision of reality never enters a discussion concerning Disney, so I guess that's natural. Thanks, though for doing what you do. It's something that goes unsung until it's needed and hopefully almost none of it ever will be needed.

 

[Cesar R M]

Did he die? That is the major difference. The patient is super, super contagious when dying, which is also when they need the most hands on care.

Also, the other patients were transferred in from one hospital to another - with the receiving hospital knowing they were arriving, and having a plan, protection, etc. In Dallas, he just walked in the door, unannounced. Did they blow it by not admitting and isolating him soon enough. Yes. But, no one in the US expected an Ebola patient to just show up on the doorstep - even if he had walked into Emory or the hospital in Omaha things might have played out in a similar fashion.

We were all lulled into a false sense of security, believing that the only cases that would arrive here would be US healthcare workers who would be transported securely every step of the way, with no chance of their coming into contact with anyone who was not prepared. No one, at any hospital, expected patients to just show up at the door, unannounced. We were told that the likelihood of that happening was miniscule, and not worth worrying about.

hopefully a wakeup call for them to increase the security to those coming from Africa.

 

[PhotoDave219]

hopefully a wakeup call for them to increase the security to those coming from Africa.

Hopefully a wake up call for everyone to stop touching everything....

 

[twebber55]

Hopefully a wake up call for everyone to stop touching everything....

two best things you could do for your health is wash your hands a lot and drink lots of water

 

[Nemo14]

Hopefully a wake up call for everyone to stop touching everyone....

fixed

 

[PhotoDave219]

Flu, ebola, @Lee 's love for SHIELD and puking. At least the one WAWA/Italian hoagie discussion made me hungry. I am finding that this is having the opposite effect.

Really hoping that someone either posts overhead (again - note the skillful avoidance of the term aerial) shots of Pandora or someone spills some more specific beans about the upcoming DHS transformation.

I have no details on DHS beyond what I've said & I dont have a helicopter.

 

[GoofGoof]

two best things you could do for your health is wash your hands a lot and drink lots of water

Just don't drink it from a water fountain.

 

[RivieraJenn]

Atlanta and Omaha are facilities designed to treat BSL4 pathogens they are 2 of the 4 in the US with a grand total of 23 beds Not surprised no secondary infection occurred these staff are trained to deal with these pathogens and they have the proper PPE.

Agreed. But it doesn't excuse the officials in Dallas...or those at the federal level. We've known for years--not just since the current outbreak began--that one day Ebola would board a plane bound for our shores. There's no reason this should have come as a surprise. Now, I'm not saying it deserves the level of panic the media is having a heyday inciting. But there's no excuse for our healthcare infrastructure to not be prepared to deal with imported infectious diseases. Ebola won't be the last and it almost certainly won't be the most dangerous.

 

[bcoachable]

so interesting that ebola has been around for a really long time, but just now here in our great country we become interested in "solving" it.....

 

[PhotoDave219]

Agreed. But it doesn't excuse the officials in Dallas...or those at the federal level. We've known for years--not just since the current outbreak began--that one day Ebola would board a plane bound for our shores. There's no reason this should have come as a surprise. Now, I'm not saying it deserves the level of panic the media is having a heyday inciting. But there's no excuse for our healthcare infrastructure to not be prepared to deal with imported infectious diseases. Ebola won't be the last and it almost certainly won't be the most dangerous.

Yes, the Dallas people were caught unprepared and had no idea what they were dealing with. Of course, anyone who is paying attention should know that a patient presenting with 103 fever, flu like symptoms and a recent trip to Liberia should be isolated immediately and top level precautions taken.

 

[PhotoDave219]

so interesting that ebola has been around for a really long time, but just now here in our great country we become interested in "solving" it.....

Theyre not interesting in solving it.... Profiting from it, yes.