one thing to rmember is star wars is a very American product...im not sure it has the international appeal to go to 3 billion but I wouldn't be shocked if it crossed the 2 billion plateau but its still has to be a quality movie...I ve said for a while it clears 1 billion on name alone after that its about the movie itsself
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this goes with what I see at my school where im a teacher....I ve said for a while star wars is huge with the 10 and under crowd and HP is bigger for the tweens and teens crowd
Ranch Dressing
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Yes, Star Wars has international appeal. Significant appeal.
well I was talking in terms of over all box office..if you look at star wars its domestic numbers are somewhat higher than its international numbers somewhat different than say avatar and transformers which relied/relies on huge international numbers
Tony Perkis
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Star Wars was launched in 1977. There is an enormous amount of appeal in the teens and above crowd.
I agree with adults not with teens...not that they wont go see the movie im sure they will
Stevek
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Not sure it even clears a billion unless you take into account higher ticket prices and potentially a better quality film under Abrams. Phantom Menace made $983MM worldwide, Clones $640MM and Revenge of the Sith $848MM. In every case, less than 50% of the total box office take is domestic. Star Wars has a very strong worldwide following.
Tony Perkis
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Episode I: $475 domestic, $550 international
Episode II: $310 domestic, $340 international
Episode III: $380 domestic, $470 international
which is exactly my point those numbers are pretty even in comparison to other movies like avatar and transformers
in order for it to get to 3 billion (which it could) it needs a ton from international numbers
Tony Perkis
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Star Wars is universal. Teen girls may be more into crap like Twilight and Divergent, but EVERYBODY knows Star Wars.
Just like everybody knows Harry Potter.
Tony Perkis
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What point are you trying to make? The last 3 Star Wars films earned more internationally than domestically, thus negating your claim that Star Wars appeals to American audiences for the majority of its gross.
Transformers and Avatar's international successes don't factor into that idea. All they prove is that international audiences have equally, if not more, terrible taste in film as the rest of us.
Stevek
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I think there is a subset of teens that enjoy the movies, those that followed through the Clone Wars series but it's not like when we were kids and pretty much every teen loved SW (slight exaggeration). I find that it's much more about the younger kids/pre-teen and those in 20's or older that follow the franchise.
1. Those of us that grew up with the original trilogy and followed the prequels
2. Those that grew up with the prequels being "their" Star Wars
3. Younger kids that grew up with the Clone Wars series and have now been exposed to all 6 movies
There is obviously a grey area in there for folks that don't fit in the timeline...likely some of the current teens that are much more enamored with Marvel...their Star Wars per se.
I don't see it in schools...see tons of HP stuff...actually looked at a star wars book when I was teaching summer school this summer and the last time it was checked out was 2005
again that doesn't mean they wont go see the movie because they will
Tony Perkis
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I've said this before, and I'll say it again.
Anecdotal evidence is the worst way to validate an argument.
Naruto or Pokemon, yes. They should replace American Idol. lol. heres a google trends report comparing all 3Clearly, Disney needs to build a NARUTO land!
I shared this before on this board...my brother (who teaches at a different school) and I did a pop culture survey asking kids about LOTR, HP, and SW..so this was a couple hundred or so kids ranging in age from 13-18 and it wasn't even close...HP won easily
I think part of that is HP is still fresh and im sure SW will probably do better when Ep. 7 comes out
I think part of that is HP is still fresh and im sure SW will probably do better when Ep. 7 comes out
agree
oh I agree
so when you tell me avatar sucks all my friends hate it I pretty much dismiss it as well
this also would be anecdotal, right?