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The Spirited Seventh Heaven ...
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I was curious as to what Spirit thought of this photo I took... Better yet just your personal thoughts on what you have seen for Diagon so far if you wouldn't mind.
Is there any chance that TWDC knew Uni was gonna add a huge fire breathing dragon in DA and they decided to put a fire breathing dragon in FoF Parade? Or perhaps the other way around, or just coincidence and they both now have fire breathing dragons?
PhotoDave219
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I was curious as to what Spirit thought of this photo I took... Better yet just your personal thoughts on what you have seen for Diagon so far if you wouldn't mind.
Good exposure & composition. I like slightly wider & people in my photos but that's just me.
Does it go off during the fireworks? I know you can see the fireworks from that angle.
culturenthrills
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i have a fun saturday night planned. going to see the Go Go's, martha davis and the motels, patty smythe and naked eyes..
80's punk pop. yea baby yeah
I am guessing you live in the Tampa Bay area.
NearTheEars
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Can't argue that removing a ride for a M&G was a good idea, but it doesn't seem to be a waste of space. It's attracting a heck of a lot of people. You can call them dumb, but thousands are happily lining up every day for the photo ops.
Sounds great. My Friday afternoon/evening wasn't too shabby. I got to 'faux one percent it' in the city in an Aston Martin Vantage. (Not mine, but I drove it like it was!)i have a fun saturday night planned. going to see the Go Go's, martha davis and the motels, patty smythe and naked eyes..
80's punk pop. yea baby yeah
PhotoDave219
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No. Always drive it like it's a rental and you took the extra insurance.
PeterAlt
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Thanks! Any idea where this new water park will be built? Over Wet and Wild or new property?
C'mon, Dave, I couldn't claim true 'faux one percent' status if I paid for it.
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stevehousse
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You work valet, don't you...
stevehousse
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Wow, if only our few classic dark rides could get that kind of attention. Well, our one classic dark ride.
THANK GOODNESS TO THAT!!!
I hope to see them outside of 7DMT again than no more than I hope to see the "swaying" ride vehicle. I'll likely be disappointed, but the longer they are held off from being the norm, the better.
With all the money they spend, it's crazy they don't make small investments like these. They could take a small plot, and stick two of these (with shared operations to decrease footprint) in, warehouse-style with a small facade (a la the HM), for under 20 million. They don't need to be "state of the art". I think that's what is disappointing about our Pan in particular - do you know what makes the Disneyland version, aside from the just being better to begin with? Fiber optic lights.
Now, that sounds all fancy - but it's not. You can recreate a starfield across your child's entire bedroom ceiling (or your own, LOL - I won't lie, I've thought about it!) for $300-400 bucks that is the same exact effect they do in the Disneyland Pan. I'm not exaggerating - it's about the same number of lights and the same size. Even when you add the corporate/Disney/business tax - $5,000? $10,000? $20,000 if we are all crazy? That they don't do little things like that is what I find so confusing. It's like they want to do away with them in Florida totally - and, actually, they pretty much have, except for our Mr. P - he's the anti-Potter, more like the Rotter.
Love your post but you have to remember that this is the company that uses actual trash bags as "clouds" for the Peter Pan ride...that's how cheap they are!
Haha, I did many moons ago. Wouldn't be where I'm at today without that job. #blessedYou work valet, don't you...
Mike S
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I think the rumor said it will be built near Cabana Bay.
TP2000
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Dining is one of those things where Disneyland's operation and WDW's operation has grown further and further apart in the last ten years. It's bizarre and I can't think of a good reason why WDW's theme park dining locations have gone the direction they have. Meanwhile, Disneyland's locations go in the opposite direction from Flo's V8 Cafe to the Carthay Circle to the Frontierland Barbeque.
It's very odd, and there's really no good excuse for what TDO has done in the WDW parks since about 2005.
You forgot to say please.
Looks like I've been beaten to it. Post 7624 incase you missed it. And that's being generous by including resorts.
I can show you're wrong again though if you like? But I don't like doing that to people.
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PeterAlt
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So, there's no new land since Wet and Wild?
Changing the subject, two things I want to throw at everyone for opinion:
1. Alan Horn as next Disney CEO? Impressive what he's done for the studio so far...
2. Kerzner International Holdings Ltd. (now being held by its creditor), owner of Atlantis and Dubia World resorts. What if it were acquired by either Disney or Universal? The possibilities for synergies... Disney could use it to add value to its cruise line and DVC offerings and maybe even let Imagineering do something with it.
You really want to widen it to those 12 years?
Why do you insist on digging a deeper hole ?
And why do you try to change your questions to attempt to appear to be correct? First you said Disney, now you say Magic Kingdom?
Either way I'm afraid history shows you are either wrong or misinformed.
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If you ran a theme park, who would you rather have visist? Tourists staying in Orlando for a week and spending a few days in your park? Or locals with a season pass coming all the time? Of course the answer depends on if you can get close to the same total attendance. As Universal continues to build hotels and more rides they will continue to increase the numbers from tourists who pay more than the locals. This in turn will lead to Universal increasing their Florida Residents season pass price. They will eventually increase it to just a few dollars lower than Disney and possibly eliminate it entirely. Any business owner could tell you this and the reason is they can and they want to maximize profits. Every park gate at WDW, Universal and elsewhere has a maximum capacity. There is no way to reach it everyday so even if MK has a maximum capacity of 100,000, the maximum annual capacity is not 36.5 million, it's much less in realistic terms to 25 million or a little more but no where near 36.5. Universal's 2 parks are close in combined size to the MK and so should have close to the same capacity. That is just 12.5 million each. How much longer will it take until they can fill up that capacity with tourists?
Universal wants to get to the point where they have 10,000 to 15,000 hotel rooms. I will use the 15,000 because that is the number some of my favorite posters use. With 15,000 hotel rooms and 80% occupancy and an average of 2.5 a room, the number of people staying each day is 30,000. (We all know many people put 4 or 5 in a room and that 2 in a room is low for most families) Now if only 20% of them get park to park tickets the daily attendance from just their hotels would be 36,000 or 13,140,000 a year. Even if one were to say not everyone in their hotels will go to universal hotels every day it is clear the locals will be forced out. There is no other way you can look at the numbers and not draw that conclusion. It is better for Universal and Disney to care more about the tourists than the locals and that is even true of the tourists staying in a timeshare or hotel off property. It is just a fact that once a company makes the decision to be a destination theme park and not just a regional one the locals are no longer important.
Local universal fans may realize this and keep posting it but if the visitors staying in the 34,000 rooms at WDW spent 2 days a week at Universal that would result in 3,545,610 a year. It is clear that if Universal keep growing and both Disney and Universal keep building hotel and timeshares the only season tickets that will be offered are those with a requirement of staying on property. WDW will most likely have 50,000 rooms on property by 2030 and Universal will have their 15,000. Add in all the other hotels and timeshares and why would either park sell lower prided season pickets when you can get over $100.00 a day from tourist's and fill up you parks?
There are 140,000 hotel rooms in the Orlando area. I have no idea how many timeshares because the don't count in the hotel numbers and I don't want to count them all one by one. However I would bet the non WDW number has to be well over 30,000. So the combined number should be well over 200,000 by 2021. That should bring in more than 400,000 people a day. If just 60% of them went to theme park it would be 240,000 a day or 87,600,000. Without a 3rd gate at Universal and major expansion at WDW there is no way the parks can handle the tourists and local residents attendance.
Hotel occupancy is up big time this year through April. That is before HP2. Both WDW and Universal will see big increases this year and neither of their parks will see any drop.