lazyboy97o
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It's not an issue of having to search every nook and cranny for possible infringement like you keep trying to make it. Just one that must be acted on once it is known.
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Overlay, new, overlay, minor diversion, interactive experiment overlay, exhibit, finally, C ticket, new show in old theatre, disaster, overlay, butchered up, excellent refurb and excellent refurb.
Hmmmm
SJN1279
Well-Known Member
Its a clone of Dumbo, Seuss, Aladdin etc.
Tigger1988
Well-Known Member
I'm not trying to make it anything. Just saying that if they wanted they could have C&D them years ago. Disney hasn't and likely will not. Not sure why that is hard to grasp.
sshindel
The Epcot Manifesto
IMO of course, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
Soarin has a long wait because it is, for most people, nearly the only attraction worth doing at Epcot (TT2 and M:S of course are potentials as well depending on the person). The lines are long because it's wait in line for Soarin' to experience a mediocre attraction, or wait in line for other attractions that are sub-par at best. I think they could add 2 more theaters to Soarin and still have long lines, because people are looking for SOMETHING to do with their expensive ticket to Epcot.
If they updated the rest of Future World to contain quality attractions again, I'd be willing to bet that the lines for Soarin would cut down drastically. I don't know how much it would cost to add a new theater and ride system to Soarin, but I'd bet they could update Imagination, or Energy, or the ending to SSE, or fix The Seas, etc for that cost.
Of course, they'll probably do it. Epcot will just be renamed to Soarin & Drunkville (now with more Elsa).
Again, that is all my opinion, and we know what they say about those.
Sometimes it is necessary.
As you keep on saying.
I've a feeling it will still be rather successful and once again prove spend big to make even more back by investing in awe inspiring attractions. Like WDW used to introduce every few years.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
Only if Disney knows about the infringement. If Disney knows and allows the continued infringement then they seriously risk losing their rights. Disney doesn't get a choice in the matter.
Mike S
Well-Known Member
It's people that encourage the further dumbing down of Epcot, that makes me sick. Epcot was my favorite park as a kid (tied with MK). The sight of Spaceship Earth, to me, was just as exciting as Cinderella Castle. Going ON Spaceship Earth? Good lord I was in heaven. It was total sensory overload, not one second passed where I wasn't smiling. The ride got me so excited about the future and I loved it (looking back now I find it weird that SE is the ride that did this for me and not Horizons, which I barely remember). Now the descent is just watching a cartoon on video screens. And while I find it humorous and make a funny face for the picture each time, it pains me when I remember what once was. Before this gets too long I'll end it by saying you don't need to shove cartoon characters where they don't belong to entertain children. I believe many kids today, like me and many people here in the past when they were kids, would love an Epcot that once again focused on the promise of the future. I think people don't give kids enough credit when it comes to what would entertain them.
You should have numbered them or at least put them in tabular format. I spent 4 minutes of my life trying to place which one with what. lol
Bairstow
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First of all, if universal's gambit pays off, two-park tickets will soon become the new normal.
Second, when was Jaws ever a "family" attraction? There might not have been motion but that thing was terrifying to young kids.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
Two-park tickets have been the norm for some time already.
You mean infants don't love being terrorized by a shark? Learn something new everyday.
While I agree with you on the dumbing down attractions, have you ever seen a clip of "Waters World" on O'Reilly or "Jay Walking"? People is dumb.
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
I understand how trolling works, and you're great at it, really. But every post?
Anyway, glad you resulted to name calling
There appears to be some confusion, yes I am fantastic at trolling, its a gift. However your definition of what constitutes trolling and its frequency are somewhat skewed by your desire to dictate post content, I understand that some folk take their opinions of tourists destinations very seriously, but I dont. If this causes you discomfort please feel free to apply the ignore application.
Glad you "resulted" to victim, very popular with a select group on this site.
CDavid
Well-Known Member
It's a gray area, admittedly. I would tend to classify a show as an attraction if it is a more or less permanent offering in a dedicated venue (Beauty & the Beast, Lights Motors Action, etc.); Usually you have a queue before entering. A more temporary show, or one presented in a pre-existing facility somewhere (anything on the Castle Forecourt Stage, the old Hyperspace Hoopla, etc.) and where you usually do not find a queue would generally constitute entertainment.
Consider the audience. There are far more families and parties with very young children, seniors, and other persons for whom thrill rides hold limited appeal at Disney than traditionally found at Universal. The premise that a Disney park is something which the entire family can experience together should, I'd argue, still carry weight. You do want 'something for everyone' to an extent, but while an extreme thrill ride would hold strong appeal to a certain demographic, it would be a useless waste to many others; Attractions such as Pirates of the Caribbean and Spaceship Earth hold interest for everyone.
While anyone can pre-purchase their tickets, there are many who do not, and thus they do not have access for FP+ reservations until the day of entry into the park (assuming one-day tickets). The point is not that they could utilize FP+ if they chose to or did the necessary research or pre-planned their trips to a greater extent. The point is that the Walt Disney World parks are still serving a large segment segment of visitors who do not do these things, and they are just as important a customer as the most obsessive-compulsive pre-planner types.
While Disney should, and generally does, hold very wide appeal across varied demographic groups, there are always going to be some activities which aren't as well developed. The Walt Disney World resort offers boat rentals and fishing excursions, for instance, but there are better places in Florida to vacation if that's how you want to spend your time. Similarly, I don't know that more extreme coasters are what Disney really needs to be doing. Again, they're unappealing to some segments of guests and having just one or two such rides is never going to satisfy thrill freaks, for which WDW would still come up short.
orky8
Well-Known Member
Indeed. Perhaps the bleakness of future world is the best we can expect from today's society. America is no longer the bastion of optimism that it was in Walt's day, or even in Epcot's heyday. Tomorrow's Child was the best ending of any ride, perhaps ever IMO, but the most accurate documentary I've seen in a long time for today's society is Idiocracy. It's also more in line with WDW's apparent target audience, unfortunately.
SJN1279
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At least 25 percent of Universal patrons have a one park ticket.
flynnibus
Premium Member
Yes, so worth pointing out.. because know all those sub 8yr olds are missing that attraction that they were too scared to ride in the first place.
GLaDOS
Well-Known Member
No, at most. 75% is the average minimum of 2 park passes in the park.