The Spirited Seventh Heaven ...

[Pumbas Nakasak]

Did you work that post out to off as many people as possible?

No its a natural talent

 

[Nemo14]

He's been here longer than you.vOr me for that matter.

He has carte Blanche to do say these things.

and he's lovable...

 

[MichWolv]

My parents went to Uni last year and felt that both the parade and night time show at USF paled in comparision to Disney offerings. They enjoyed a lot of what Uni offered, but felt this was a clear area where Disney was superior. Obviously, everyone ca have different opinion.

I'm going to Uni later this year and look forward to checking out Cinematic Spectacular for myself. A question I have: does IOA have any large entertainment offerings? I have not seen any parade or show listed for there, which surprises me. I would think some sort of fireworks/WoC/Illuminations type show over the lagoon would be a real hit.

I agree with your parents, obviously. As to IOA, nada in terms of a big spectacle. The pathways generally would make a parade all but impossible, but a lagoon show seems like it could work, but there ain't one. Indeed, the lagoon is almost annoying. It takes up a lot room, making it impossible to allow traffic flow in any direction besides clockwise and counterclockwise, but isn't used much in a way that takes advantage of its beauty (e.g., lagoon-side dining) or for any shows.

 

[PhotoDave219]

and he's lovable...

For you maybe.

I think of him as a loyal Scottish highlands wolfhound that points out the hilarious obvious.

 

[Nemo14]

For you maybe.

I think of him as a loyal Scottish highlands wolfhound that points out the hilarious obvious.

in a lovable manner....

 

[bhg469]

Disney clearly likes to keep things more family-oriented. All of their rides pretty much follow this policy, with the exception of Aerosmith and Tower of Terror at DHS. Universal goes for attracting everything, families, youngsters, thrill-seekers, etc. If you look at Gringotts, Forbidden Journey, Mummy, etc, those rides are so high quality that it makes my entire family, from 7 to 40, want to go there first. We love Disney more than Universal for the overall experience, but Universal blows Disney out of the water with their rides.

Why won't Disney continue with the thrill ride idea at DHS? They can make that park just as strong as USF or IoA. Thats not a rhetorical question. Someone please explain to me why they dont go that route to keep up... is it just money? Or something else?

Here is where I will defend disney and criticize them at the same time. My favorite ride in the entire world is haunted mansion. Thrill rides are not needed, they are a "cheap thrills". As soon as you're talking drops you're not talking show scenes and entertainment elements.

Universal does this less but they still do it.

Disney used to do it but stopped and you get mine train which could have been double the length if they just slowed down more sections and had an easy E ticket. The mine scene looks amazing but that's it... the rest is a mini coaster..

I should say that they just don't do it here.. look at mystic manor. I would give up many body parts for that in a mythical section of dak.

 

[bhg469]

Hollywood studios? I'd support that. Still plenty of room for Star Wars land to go with the frozen land.

It makes the most sense and it's the park that needs the most help.

And there are lots of stale attractions there. Better yet, frozen room in great movie ride! That ride is dreadful lately.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Here is where I will defend disney and criticize them at the same time. My favorite ride in the entire world is haunted mansion. Thrill rides are not needed, they are a "cheap thrills". As soon as you're talking drops you're not talking show scenes and entertainment elements.

Universal does this less but they still do it.

Disney used to do it but stopped and you get mine train which could have been double the length if they just slowed down more sections and had an easy E ticket. The mine scene looks amazing but that's it... the rest is a mini coaster..

I should say that they just don't do it here.. look at mystic manor. I would give up many body parts for that in a mythical section of dak.

And this is why I don't understand when people say Disney parks have something for everyone. They don't.

 

[bhg469]

And this is why I don't understand when people say Disney parks have something for everyone. They don't.

I sort of don't agree. Across all 4 parks everyone e can find one enjoyable thing, it's just that 150 bucks is a bit silly for 1 enjoyable thing.

 

[Californian Elitist]

I sort of don't agree. Across all 4 parks everyone e can find one enjoyable thing, it's just that 150 bucks is a bit silly for 1 enjoyable thing.

I'm talking about those who are seriously into roller coasters (not including kiddie coasters like Space Mountain and Thunder Mountain). My uncle loves Magic Mountain, but can't stand Disneyland, for reasons I don't think I need to mention. I have friends who are the same way.

 

[spacemt354]

I'm talking about those who are seriously into roller coasters (not including kiddie coasters like Space Mountain and Thunder Mountain). My uncle loves Magic Mountain, but can't stand Disneyland, for reasons I don't think I need to mention. I have friends who are the same way.

Space Mountain is a kiddie coaster? I wouldn't put it in that category.

If people are serious into roller coasters there are a few to their liking. RnRC and California Screamin are two of the best I've ever been on. I'm not making the case the place is filled with coasters, but there is something in Disney that satisfies every crowd.

Granted, if you're going to Disney expecting it to be Magic Mountain, you will be disappointed, but you shouldn't really go in expecting that.

 

[tamotu99]

Hollywood studios? I'd support that. Still plenty of room for Star Wars land to go with the frozen land.

It makes the most sense and it's the park that needs the most help.

Part of me is thinking that Frozen would work in AK, have an arctic section, (plus penguins because they are cute and this is Disney they can magically travel north) would give a whole new land, along with creatures of interest of which AK currently has nothing similar to, and could have a frozen ride, and some other elements added in and would be a perfect place for a meet and greet with Anna and Elsa

And any indoor areas, such as penguin viewing rooms, would be a nice cool area to escape the heat that is sometimes stifling in that park particularly i find

 

[tamotu99]

We got a pluto dog bowl and a couple of aristocats cat bowls back in 2008 i think, i dont know what is in cat food, but it had turned that bowl yellow from white

 

[Omnispace]

You're still wrong.

Outside of New Fantasyland, Disney hasn't done anything except rehab and overlay existing attractions.

Don't forget those that have caught fire...

 

[PhotoDave219]

And there are lots of stale attractions there. Better yet, frozen room in great movie ride! That ride is dreadful lately.

The inherent problem with a pop-culture park is that popular culture changes and it needs continual updating.

Either that or.....

You need attractions that are based on timeless themes that transcend age or pop culture that has withstood the test of time.

Studios could be a gem again with the right love, attention and budget.

 

[PhotoDave219]

Part of me is thinking that Frozen would work in AK, have an arctic section, (plus penguins because they are cute and this is Disney they can magically travel north) would give a whole new land, along with creatures of interest of which AK currently has nothing similar to, and could have a frozen ride, and some other elements added in and would be a perfect place for a meet and greet with Anna and Elsa

And any indoor areas, such as penguin viewing rooms, would be a nice cool area to escape the heat that is sometimes stifling in that park particularly i find

That sounds even more fantastic… Although there are no penguins in Norway. Tho I'm willing to overlook that detail.

 

[hpyhnt 1000]

And technically TSMM wasn't even an addition. It replaced Who Wants to be a Millionaire

This is something thats really begun to bug me about WDW: the lack of new ADDITIONS or EXPANSIONS. The vast majority of new attractions or refurbs have actually been replacements for something else.

In fact, off the top of my head, the only true "additions" that WDW has had in the last decade have been Lights, Motors, Action (somewhat debatable as it could be argued as a replacement for the Hunchback show) in 2005 and Expedition Everest in 2006. If you go back further, you do have The Magic Carpets of Aladdin spinner in 2001, but otherwise...?

 

[PhotoDave219]

Don't forget those that have caught fire...

I was just adding a rebuttal to his list & assertions.

If anything, it adds to the assertion that outside of new fantasyland, Disney hasn't done anything of substance to the parks beyond overlays or rehabs since 2008.

 

[Disneyhead'71]

To the other poster in the thread, I do like Universal quite a bit.

The most recent addition to Universal was Transformers which is an exact clone of the ride in USH, which in my opinion was a weakened replica of Spiderman which opened in 1999.

Potter is original, but they lost a family ride in Jaws in the process of its removal. Kong may be original, we will have to wait and see(I loved Kong 360 in Hollywood).

Disney is getting a Frozen overlay, an updated Soarin, and an all new original land in Avatar(and this is just what we know). Disney and Universal look to both be expanding, and that is a good thing.

Actually, the most recent attraction opened was Kang and Kodos' Twirl 'n' Hurl. And it's not a clone nor an overlay.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Space Mountain is a kiddie coaster? I wouldn't put it in that category.

If people are serious into roller coasters there are a few to their liking. RnRC and California Screamin are two of the best I've ever been on. I'm not making the case the place is filled with coasters, but there is something in Disney that satisfies every crowd.

Granted, if you're going to Disney expecting it to be Magic Mountain, you will be disappointed, but you shouldn't really go in expecting that.

Yes, Space Mountain is a kiddie coaster when compared to the behemoths at Six Flags parks, which is what I'm referring to. If I was just talking about Disney parks, I wouldn't call Space Mountain a kiddie coaster.

Never been on RnRC, but California Screamin' is nothing compared to other roller coasters I've been on. The drops aren't too steep and the inversion is meh.

Rides like California Screamin' don't satisfy my uncle and some of my friends. They would even call that a kiddie coaster. You said it yourself, if one expects to find rides that are on the level of Six Flags, they will be disappointed.