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tamotu99

Active Member
While anyone can pre-purchase their tickets, there are many who do not, and thus they do not have access for FP+ reservations until the day of entry into the park (assuming one-day tickets). The point is not that they could utilize FP+ if they chose to or did the necessary research or pre-planned their trips to a greater extent. The point is that the Walt Disney World parks are still serving a large segment segment of visitors who do not do these things, and they are just as important a customer as the most obsessive-compulsive pre-planner types.

But these are the same people that pre MM+ would most likely not have made a touring strategy, or looked at any projected crowd levels before hand, would not know what FP is, or think that it is a paid for extra and not used it, they will not have a worse expereince than before MM+ and they might just get the FP+ system explained to them, allowing them to book a few things


Plus ultimately Disney wants to drastically reduce the number of this type of guest, if you buy your tickets 3 months before, then Disney has had your money for three months longer that is a major bonus for a business, equally it means they can reduce the number of cast members they need working on the ticket booths, which although is realtively pocket change, we all know just how much current disney likes to save any penny it can
 

SJN1279

Well-Known Member
So
No, at most. 75% is the average minimum of 2 park passes in the park.

So roughly 1/4 of the the people in Universal Studios and 1/4 of the people in Islands of Adventure won't be permitted to experience the new Hogwarts Express attraction. That is NOT going to go over well.
 

tribbleorlfl

Well-Known Member
Asking people in the park is lot different that outside.

Sure some over planning g soccer mom's are going to love this, but I dnot believe for one minute that anyone really wanted this or would be mad if it was gone. It's wasted money and imo ruined it for day guests or last minute ones.
It's funny, because that's exactly how I felt about the original FP when it was unveiled.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
At least 25 percent of Universal patrons have a one park ticket.
That means a super majority of guests will be able to experience the attraction. That 25% remainder is likely the same group that is not going to see everything or be all that aware of everything.

Yes, so worth pointing out.. because know all those sub 8yr olds are missing that attraction that they were too scared to ride in the first place.
I'm starting to think he really wanted to bring his infant onto Jaws.
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
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So roughly 1/4 of the the people in Universal Studios and 1/4 of the people in Islands of Adventure won't be permitted to experience the new Hogwarts Express attraction. That is NOT going to go over well.

No one will be restricted from experiencing the attraction, they will just have to have to have park to park tickets to do it. Just like Mickey's Not So Scary Halloween Party, you can stay in the park for it, if you pay the extra entrance fee.
 

GLaDOS

Well-Known Member
So roughly 1/4 of the the people in Universal Studios and 1/4 of the people in Islands of Adventure won't be permitted to experience the new Hogwarts Express attraction. That is NOT going to go over well.

No. You make it sound as if they're banned from ever experiencing it. Ticket options will make it very clear that you need a park-to-park ticket to experience the Hogwarts Express. If they choose not to buy such a ticket, they make the decision themselves not to ride.

With or without the "hopper" option?

With. 75%, on average, have 2 park tickets (what Uni calls park hoppers)
 

Cesar R M

Well-Known Member
Asking people in the park is lot different that outside.

Sure some over planning g soccer mom's are going to love this, but I dnot believe for one minute that anyone really wanted this or would be mad if it was gone. It's wasted money and imo ruined it for day guests or last minute ones.
Agree, many people are completely enthralled inside Disney Parks that they rarely see wrong things.

Yes these boards do get negative but to be fair with Disney I will say with the exception of the length of time in completion. New fantasyland is a success. It's perfect for the area it's in. I believe Pandora in AK will be a solid addition and blend in perfectly with the parks original ideas and aesthetics. Cars land in California is wonderful.
If Disney's plan is now creating thematic worlds to explore then I'm excited about what Star Wars will eventually look like.
Treasure cove is another land that looks amazing. (Disney Shanghai)
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I'm pretty sure Disney's current main problem is not the ideas/designs (on paper), but executing them.. which they always try to make the most value or cheapest variant they can select.
 

Cesar R M

Well-Known Member
The day care thing was close to 2 decades ago and Disney got heaps of bad press over it.

Again, Disney can't keep the fake characters from meeting outside their flagship store in TS (and they could stop it if they wanted). They won't do anything about this.
they probably think that as "free advertisement" and "guerilla marketing" nowadays.
 

Californian Elitist

Well-Known Member
While Disney should, and generally does, hold very wide appeal across varied demographic groups, there are always going to be some activities which aren't as well developed. The Walt Disney World resort offers boat rentals and fishing excursions, for instance, but there are better places in Florida to vacation if that's how you want to spend your time. Similarly, I don't know that more extreme coasters are what Disney really needs to be doing. Again, they're unappealing to some segments of guests and having just one or two such rides is never going to satisfy thrill freaks, for which WDW would still come up short.

This has been my point. Thank you.
 

wdisney9000

Truindenashendubapreser
Premium Member
Disney is getting a Frozen overlay

The last word in that sentence proves whats wrong with WDW today and how they have acclimated fans to accept mediocrity. When people get excited (and they will be) about an overlay of an existing attraction rather than a new attraction being built, it will only promote Disney to continue its poor efforts of creating anything truly unique. Its not about saving Maelstrom, its about Disney not taking the cheapest and easiest route possible. So many people love to cite the extreme need to have spent appx $2 billion on "infrastructure" to keep the PARKS running smoothly but are ok with absolutely cheapness when it comes to the ACTUAL PARKS.
 
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dadddio

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Isn't an additional theater also part of the Soarin' overlay? The ride has such a ridiculously long wait that it would be good investment to increase capacity.

The ride film needs to be cleaned and converted to digital anyway. So a new film can help differentiate it from the California Adventure version, which makes it a much more unique offering to Epcot. It doesn't fix the lack of attractions there, but it isn't a waste of money.
It's too bad that they aren't (apparently) going to have a unique film for each theater.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
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So roughly 1/4 of the the people in Universal Studios and 1/4 of the people in Islands of Adventure won't be permitted to experience the new Hogwarts Express attraction. That is NOT going to go over well.

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You are trying to find flaws for the purely for sake of finding flaws to point out. You are taking the classic defense of instead of defending your own actions, attack what the other guy does.

It's pathetic really - please stop. You're making yourself seem worse by the passing hour. Next you're going to tell us how much of the population can't see 3-D and use that to try to tear them down.
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
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You are trying to find flaws for the purely for sake of finding flaws to point out. You are taking the classic defense of instead of defending your own actions, attack what the other guy does.

It's pathetic really - please stop. You're making yourself seem worse by the passing hour. Next you're going to tell us how much of the population can't see 3-D and use that to try to tear them down.

Or he will try to claim that the "walking through the brick wall to get to platform 9 3/4 effect" will get old real quick and annoy people. ;)
 

bhg469

Well-Known Member
It's funny, because that's exactly how I felt about the original FP when it was unveiled.
And one could argue that it should have always been a paid service or at leat exclusive to resort guests. This system just ruins any attempt at people like my wife and myself who feel like going to a certain park one day just because we are on vacation...
 

dadddio

Well-Known Member
And the vast majority of guests who go to Universal Orlando have two park tickets. So your Hogwarts Express qualifier is effectively and empty complaint
Is that true?

Certainly, most guests probably have multi-day tickets, but I don't know if the average tourist who plans to spend two days at Universal would otherwise pony up the extra money for 'park hoppers'.
 

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