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bhg469

bhg469

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the.dreamfinder said:
So this got the fanboys all hot and bothered today.
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Hey look it's a Kardashian next to snookie!
 
TalkingHead

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zooey said:
Tarantino named The Lone Ranger one of his favorite films of that year. Mostly because of the train sequence at the end, which is the best, technically and thematically, part of the film.
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Knowing how idiosyncratic (and, at times, awful) his taste in movies is, I'm not sure how much of an endorsement that is.
 
ParentsOf4

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zooey said:
Tarantino named The Lone Ranger one of his favorite films of that year. Mostly because of the train sequence at the end, which is the best, technically and thematically, part of the film.
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The Lone Ranger's main problem was production cost.

It pulled in $260M. If it had a budget of $50M, then it would have been considered a big success. As it was ...

Kinda like MyMagic+. If MyMagic+ had a budget of $100M, then it might already be well on its way to being considered a success.

However, with its actual budget ... :D
 
RSoxNo1

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ParentsOf4 said:
The Lone Ranger's main problem was production cost.

It pulled in $260M. If it had a budget of $50M, then it would have been considered a big success. As it was ...

Kinda like MyMagic+. If MyMagic+ had a budget of $100M, then it might already be well on its way to being considered a success.

However, with its actual budget ... :D
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The Lone Ranger's biggest problem was "How the hell do you market this?" Fans of the IP aren't the typical movie going crowd. It had the Disney stigma so teenagers didn't want to see it, and it was too violent for kids. I thought it was a really fun movie that measures up to any Pirates movie except the first one (I'd rank it behind that but ahead of the others) but it was hard to just get the word of mouth to spread.
 
Animaniac93-98

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RSoxNo1 said:
The Lone Ranger's biggest problem was "How the hell do you market this?" Fans of the IP aren't the typical movie going crowd. It had the Disney stigma so teenagers didn't want to see it, and it was too violent for kids. I thought it was a really fun movie that measures up to any Pirates movie except the first one (I'd rank it behind that but ahead of the others) but it was hard to just get the word of mouth to spread.
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Didn't help that the movie suffered from major sequal baiting and people had to wait two hours for The Lone Ranger to act like The Lone Ranger (instead of the useless white man who screams like a girl).
 
Violiav

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RSoxNo1 said:
The Lone Ranger's biggest problem was "How the hell do you market this?" Fans of the IP aren't the typical movie going crowd. It had the Disney stigma so teenagers didn't want to see it, and it was too violent for kids. I thought it was a really fun movie that measures up to any Pirates movie except the first one (I'd rank it behind that but ahead of the others) but it was hard to just get the word of mouth to spread.
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Yeah, it actually wasn't that bad. But the trailers looked awful. Just awful. That's why we ended up just watching it after it got to starz or whatever.
 
AEfx

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ParentsOf4 said:
The Wizzarding World Of Harry Potter in 2010 and Cars Land in 2012 both proved that the current economy is more than ready to provide a strong return on investment if the right product is built.
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Precisely. And, in fact, folks tend to be willing to spend more on entertainment in economic downtime. Of course, the scale of a Disney vacation isn't going to be in any more of a reach than it was if it wasn't before hand for you, but on the other hand - one reason you saw Universal have such gains with Potter was because of those upper-middle-class folks who used to go on vacation in Europe or other more expensive/exotic locations every year chose a cheaper, domestic spot for travel - and they picked the one with the new, WOW attractions and experiences while Disney just churned out same-old-same-old. They totally missed those folks.

WDW1974 said:
When you stop wondering what is the right move to grow our business for long term health and instead the question becomes ''what will make Richie Greenfield say nice things about us today?'' you have a problem. A fundamental, systemic problem.
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Of course - that's the current mentality unfortunately in many corporations. Most execs/decision makers know they are like a new Prime Time TV show - you better show some profit (or viewership) out of the gate, and keep on hitting - or you will be dropped like a hot potato.

It's a shame that they are doing so with something as long-term an investment as theme parks, though - where it clearly hurts long term viability much more than most entertainment industries where there is going to be fresh product year after year.

WDW1974 said:
There is considerable room for water park growth in O-Town, both with Disney and UNI and anyone who wanted to move in and spend serious $$$. Especially this time of year, BB, TL, AQ and WaW have no trouble filling up. Disney has been on again, off again on adding another water park since before they let RC sit out and rot. UNI has plans in this area as well.
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Absolutely. This is something I've never quite understood - no one has ever gone to "that level" with water parks. Disney looked like it was going in the right direction with some of that Pirates water park concept stuff we saw, but even that was still more theming of the same-old experiences. In the current climate, I am betting that Universal will be the first to so as they are the only ones who seem in the game anymore.
 
Nubs70

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Animaniac93-98 said:
Didn't help that the movie suffered from major sequal baiting and people had to wait two hours for The Lone Ranger to act like The Lone Ranger (instead of the useless white man who screams like a girl).
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I really did not like it. I still remember getting up really early on Saturday mornings to watch the tv series. In the tv series, the Lone Ranger was a serious man with purpose, something to emulate as a child. In the movie, the Lone Ranger was a second fiddle comic relief who left his balls on the nightstand on his way to work in the morning. Did I say I really didn't care for the movie?
 
RSoxNo1

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Nubs70 said:
I really did not like it. I still remember getting up really early on Saturday mornings to watch the tv series. In the tv series, the Lone Ranger was a serious man with purpose, something to emulate as a child. In the movie, the Lone Ranger was a second fiddle comic relief who left his balls on the nightstand on his way to work in the morning. Did I say I really didn't care for the movie?
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That's interesting, the original pre-dated me so I went in with no real knowledge of the source material. It sounds like it was really an entirely different IP then? I know one of the storylines involved playing up the warewolf component, but that was removed.
 

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