The Spirited 11th Hour ...

FrankLapidus

Well-Known Member
Why spend a billion dollars on building up a franchise you don't own when you have 3 equally (arguably even more) viable in-house ones?

Fair question and it would explain why they've veered away from their original strategy.

As someone who actually thinks Pandora is shaping up and really prefers for parks to be unique from one another, I think it's worked itself out for the best. AK will continue to towards becoming WDW's best park, while remaining one of the most unique worldwide.

I've never been a fan for various reasons. I'm glad they're spending on DAK but personally I'd rather they were spending that money differently than they have. In spite of that you're right, uniqueness isn't a bad thing to have at the parks.
 
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Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
@WDW1974 As to runDisney - last time I checked you need to cross the finish line under your own power to collect the medal, What's changed here (I do runDisney). Is this different in LA LA Land home of speshul snowflakes???
He's talking about the rubber refrigerator magnet type medallions that Disney gives out for participation. For some reason that threatens his manhood or something. Can't live and let live or get the Disney "spirit" at all.
 

Soarin' Over Pgh

Well-Known Member
Can't say I'm surprised to hear this. Do you know why that is the case? Do they just not want to spend the money or have they concluded that Avatar doesn't have sufficient pull as an IP to bring in more people to the parks?

The collective groan of Disney fans measured a 6.4 on the Richter scale and displaced someone's coffee at headquarters.
 

Mike S

Well-Known Member
Disney has opened up a Political Action Comittee... called DisneyPAC. They also want white collar employees to make contributions.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...ployees-to-chip-in-to-pay-copyright-lobbyists
Disney CEO asks employees to chip in to pay copyright lobbyists
mickey.1-640x427.jpg

Oh, hey, do you work here? Mickey could use a little extra cash.

Loren Javier
The Walt Disney Company has a reputation for lobbying hard on copyright issues. The 1998 copyright extension has even been dubbed the “Mickey Mouse Protection Act” by activists like Lawrence Lessig that have worked to reform copyright laws.

This year, the company is turning to its employees to fund some of that battle. Disney CEO Bob Iger has sent a letter to the company’s employees, asking for them to open their hearts—and their wallets—to the company’s political action committee, DisneyPAC.

In the letter, which was provided to Ars by a Disney employee, Iger tells workers about his company's recent intellectual property victories, including stronger IP protections in the Trans-Pacific Partnership, a Supreme Court victory that destroyed Aereo, and continued vigilance about the "state of copyright law in the digital environment." It also mentions that Disney is seeking an opening to lower the corporate tax rate.

"With the support of the US Government we achieved a win in the Supreme Court against Aereo—an Internet service claiming the right to retransmit our broadcast signals without paying copyright or retransmission consent fees," writes Iger. "In the coming year, we expect Congress and the Administration to be active on copyright regime issues, efforts to enact legislation to approve and implement the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade agreement, tax reform, and more proposals to weaken retransmission consent, to name a few."

The source who provided the letter to Ars asked to remain anonymous, and they were bothered by the assumption that anyone who worked for Disney would agree with the company's political positions on tax, trade, intellectual property, and other matters.

"It just seems insensitive to folks that support the company but don't necessarily support all of its priorities," the source said. "Especially for something like TPP, which I view as particularly controversial. We do have a company position, but there's going to be a wide variety of opinion [within the company]."

The letter concludes with a suggested donation to DisneyPAC. Ars is not publishing the suggested amount in case it is personalized to the source's compensation or position at Disney.

"For your convenience, DisneyPAC has implemented a payroll deduction system, through which your contributions to the PAC will be deducted from your weekly paycheck," Iger explains.

The source received the letter via business mail and doesn't know how many other employees received it.

"I don't know how widely this was distributed," the source said. "Was it to rank and file folks in [theme] parks, to people working in a popcorn stand?"

Disney didn't respond to Ars' requests for comment about the fundraising letter.

Not unusual
Although Iger's letter was, in the view of this employee, somewhat tone-deaf, such requests are not illegal or even particularly uncommon. In 2012, Reuters reported on Citigroup's request to its employees to give to Citi PAC, a political entity that "contributes to candidates on both sides of the aisle that support a strong private sector and promote entrepreneurship."

US corporations are allowed to solicit political contributions as long as donations aren't coerced. The relevant law bars any "threat of a detrimental job action, the threat of any other financial reprisal, or the threat of force" when asking for donations.

The Disney letter has language explicitly reassuring employees that their jobs won't be affected by their decision whether or not to give to DisneyPAC.

"Your contribution is important to all of us, but I want to emphasize that all contributions are voluntary and have no impact on your job status, performance review, compensation, or employment," writes Iger. "Any amount given or the decision not to give will not advantage or disadvantage you."

Iger's compensation in the last fiscal year was $45 million (£32 million).

In the 2014 election cycle, the Disney employees' PAC spent about $375,000, according to OpenSecrets.org. During the current cycle with a presidential election on the way, the company will likely spend more. As of last month, the PAC had raised $295,000 and spent $231,000. The contributions are split roughly evenly between Democrats and Republicans, which is the PAC's policy according to the CEO's letter.

According to a MapLight analysis of the data, Disney employees contributed a total of $4.03 million in all election cycles since 2002. That doesn't include direct employee contributions to candidates, which adds another $1.81 million over the same period.

DisneyPAC fundraising letter to employees
Here's the verbatim text of most of Iger's letter to employees:

As we head into the election year of 2016, the electorate faces significant decisions about the direction of our Nation's future. Besides choosing a new president, we will once again be electing new senators and representatives. These decisions will have a profound impact on the lives of all Americans. The election will also impact issues that affect our company. As such, we will continue to work with our representatives in Congress to ensure that they understand our perspective on critical issues like trade, intellectual property, tax, and travel policies. I write to urge you to consider supporting the Company's efforts through a contribution to DisneyPAC. A well funded DisneyPAC is an important tool in our efforts to maintain our positive profile in Washington.

In the past year, we successfully advocated the Company's position on a number of issues that have a significant impact on our business. We played a major role in ensuring that the "Trade Promotion Authority" legislation set high standards for intellectual property (IP) provisions in our trade negotiations, and we helped get that bill through Congress. We used that language in TPA to advocate successfully for a strong IP chapter in the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) trade negotiations. We also pushed for provisions to promote digital trade and to reduce barriers in media and entertainment sectors. TPP will establish a strong baseline of protection for intellectual property while breaking down trade barriers in the Asia Pacific region. In both TPA and TPP we had to overcome significant efforts to weaken respect for IP, pushed not only by foreign governments but also from within our own Congress and the Administration.

The fight on these issues is far from over. Last year we spent significant time and effort engaged in a series of government reviews of the state of copyright law in the digital environment.

We also continued to defend our right to be compensated for carriage of our programming by cable and satellite carriers as well as by emerging "over-the-top" services. With the support of the US Government we achieved a win in the Supreme Court against Aereo—an Internet service claiming the right to retransmit our broadcast signals without paying copyright or retransmission consent fees. With respect to tax issues, Congress extended certain provisions that provide favorable tax treatment for film and television production in the US. It also extended this treatment to live theatrical productions. Last year we also worked closely with the Administration on important veterans employment issues—an issue of critical importance for the men and women who defend our country and an area in which our company is proud to play a leadership role.

In the coming year, we expect Congress and the Administration to be active on copyright regime issues, efforts to enact legislation to approve and implement the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade agreement, tax reform, and more proposals to weaken retransmission consent, to name a few.

On the trade front, we will also look to build on our achievements in other negotiations this year. 2016 should see significant activity in negotiations between the US and China over a Bilateral Investment Treaty (BIT), continued negotiations with the European Union over the proposed Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership agreement, the 50-country Trade in Services Agreement negotiations, and efforts by the US Government to raise IP standards and break down trade barriers through a variety of means.

In 2016, Congress will further discuss various tax reform proposals. While comprehensive reform is unlikely, activity in the coming year will lay the foundation for what many expect to be a genuine opportunity for reform in early 2017. We have been active educating Members of Congress on the importance of lowering the corporate tax rate to be competitive with the rest of the world. The US has one of the highest marginal and effective tax rates among developed countries, creating a significant competitive impediment to companies headquartered in the US.

Congress will continue to be very active on intellectual property issues... After three years of hearings and testimony from 100 witnesses, we now expect the House Judiciary Committee to turn to legislating. We expect significant attention on legislation to modernize the Copyright Office, a small agency that can have an enormous impact on our interests.

And the Copyright Office has launched several proceedings involving possible changes to laws governing the accountability of online services and the laws protecting technologies used to secure distribution of digital content. These discussions obviously have significant implications for a business like ours that is dependent on copyright policy in the face of ongoing change in technology and the marketplace.

We will also need to continue our work to fend off growing and concerted efforts to weaken our ability to freely negotiate the distribution of our broadcast and cable programming. Last year, the FCC teed up several rule makings that could have a significant adverse affect on retransmission consent and how we package and sell our media networks. As the debate becomes much more heated, we will need to remain vigilant.

With all of the challenges we will face this year, it is important that our PAC be strong. We, therefore, respectfully suggest that you consider making a contribution of [REDACTED]. You may give more or less than the suggested amount (although no contribution can exceed $5000 in any year) and any contribution will be appreciated. As always, 100% of your contribution is used in direct support of candidates and political entities that uphold policies and principles that are consistent with the best interests of our company. DisneyPAC contributes equally to Democrats and Republicans each calendar year. For your convenience, DisneyPAC has implemented a payroll deduction system, through which your contributions to the PAC will be deducted from your weekly paycheck. If you prefer, you may instead make a one-time personal contribution to the PAC. Your contribution is important to all of us, but I want to emphasize that all contributions are voluntary and have no impact on your job status, performance review, compensation, or employment. Any amount given or the decision not to give will not advantage or disadvantage you. You have the right to refuse to contribute without reprisal. Your help is truly appreciated.
Like the employees who just had their hours cut to shreds? I think I know the exact answer they have, but it can't be shared here.
 

matt9112

Well-Known Member
On the internet no on


No I'm not, Without going into NDA territory most home "routers" are based on Broadcom switching silicon, Technically it's a L3 switch because the switching (routing?) decision is made at the IP address level not at the MAC layer which because it's working at the IP layer people like to call it a router, But it's NOT a router because it DOES NOT implement a routing protocol even one as basic as RIP v2 or IPv6 RA's People like to call them 'routers' but they are not because they do not run a routing protocol.

A Broadcom based 'router' running factory software is a L3 switch, The same 'router' running Tomato is a 'REAL' router because under Tomato it supports routing advertisement of networks to other routers via the RIP and RIPv2 (CIDR support) you also get good stuff like VLAN's, VPN.

A example of one of the Wireless 'Routers' is the Broadcom 94717.

A final note switching is ALWAYS faster than routing because it happens at the hardware level and the decision is made in a silicon based lookup table.

i cant wait for the day somebody makes all of that obsolete and returns the power to the masses...every technology collapses...
 

the.dreamfinder

Well-Known Member
Here's a list of the employees who have contributed to DisneyPAC before the weatherman sent his panhandle email. Prominent figures include; Tom Staggs*, Jay Rasulo, George Kalogridis, Alan Horn*, Kathleen Kennedy*, Kevin Feige*, Louis D'Esposito*, John Skipper*, Bob "Chappie" Chapek*, Mary Niven, Kathy Mangum and Tom Fitzgerald.
* indicates employee gave legal limit of $5000
https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgave2.php?cmte=C00197749&cycle=2016
https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgave2.php?sort=A&cmte=C00197749&cycle=2016&Page=2
 

Witchy Chick

Well-Known Member
He's talking about the rubber refrigerator magnet type medallions that Disney gives out for participation. For some reason that threatens his manhood or something. Can't live and let live or get the Disney "spirit" at all.

The "rubber refrigerator magnet" type medals are given out for completing 5Ks and kids races. To the best of my knowledge, they are not "participation medals" (otherwise I would not be training to RUN the Darkside 5K).

The upcoming Disney Darkside is the first time DH is running a 10K, but I think that's an actual medal, not plastic. All of the halfs and fulls are awarded medals....for crossing the finish line (again, to the best of my knowledge).
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
The "rubber refrigerator magnet" type medals are given out for completing 5Ks and kids races. To the best of my knowledge, they are not "participation medals" (otherwise I would not be training to RUN the Darkside 5K).

The upcoming Disney Darkside is the first time DH is running a 10K, but I think that's an actual medal, not plastic. All of the halfs and fulls are awarded medals....for crossing the finish line (again, to the best of my knowledge).
Pretty much the same thing, like I said. You get one for being in the race. It may be a different one for finishing in the front instead of the rear, but, it still is broken out. I saw one of the 5K medals received by someone that FINISHED, but, was nearly the last one to cross the finish line. It specifically read... "Participated in" on the rubber medal. People that far out of shape do not finish or usually even start the half or full run. It will kill them or they will be picked up and transported to the finish area because Disney has a park to operate and they have to have the stuff and the people out of the way as soon as possible. If they don't reach a certain point within a certain time, they are picked up, but, I doubt that very many actually start a race of that length unless they have a pretty good idea that they can make it within the time. Either way, it is a good test run, but, nothing the caliber of say the Boston Marathon. In fact, it is more of a qualifying run to get into a real marathon.

Besides, this is Disney. Their job is to make people feel good. Their runs are designed, as they should be, as a launching point or a turning point, if you will, that changes peoples lives for the better. I've seen it first hand. No ones accomplishments are downgraded because someone came in slower and received a momentum and a pat on the back for giving it a try. If they came in first, nothing anyone else does takes away from that even a little. Must be all those endorphin's makes a person take themselves way to seriously.
 

doctornick

Well-Known Member
Nothing as serious as that. It's because they got Star Wars and Frozen in the intervening years (and Marvel too can go in most of those other parks).

Why spend a billion dollars on building up a franchise you don't own when you have 3 equally (arguably even more) viable in-house ones?

As someone who actually thinks Pandora is shaping up and really prefers for parks to be unique from one another, I think it's worked itself out for the best. AK will continue to towards becoming WDW's best park, while remaining one of the most unique worldwide.

Couldn't agree more with everything you have said. It doesn't make much sense for Disney to pay (additional) licensing fees for a property they don't own when they have a boatload of internal IPs to use. Especially since there is no particular park where Pandora fits so well as it does in DAK.

And DAK is truly splendid as a unique experience and this new land will only add to that.
 

Witchy Chick

Well-Known Member
Pretty much the same thing, like I said. You get one for being in the race. It may be a different one for finishing in the front instead of the rear, but, it still is broken out. I saw one of the 5K medals received by someone that FINISHED, but, was nearly the last one to cross the finish line. It specifically read... "Participated in" on the rubber medal.

Soooooooo I just took a look at both my 5K "refrigerator magnet" medal and my child's Kids Race "refrigerator magnet" medal from the 2013 WDW Marathon weekend.

There is no verbiage whatsoever that states "Participated in" on either medal. The ribbon (for mine) says "Family Fun 5K", has a picture of the Fab 5 on the front, and verbiage "Disney China" on the back. Same setup with my kids' medals (different ribbon verbiage, different picture).

Now maybe things have changed in the past three years. I am highly doubtful, however, that runDisney is going to commission and pay for two separate types of medals for these races. A "regular" medal for those who finish "fast" and a "participation" medal for those who finish back of the pack.

Now all that being said, after finishing the 2013 full, my DH overheard some lady state she walked the entire 26.2. :jawdrop: I don't know if the course sweeping is accurate or not. But if it is, this lady maintained a 16 minute/mile pace. For the entire 26.2.
 

Bairstow

Well-Known Member
Disney has opened up a Political Action Comittee... called DisneyPAC. They also want white collar employees to make contributions.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...ployees-to-chip-in-to-pay-copyright-lobbyists
Disney CEO asks employees to chip in to pay copyright lobbyists
mickey.1-640x427.jpg

Oh, hey, do you work here? Mickey could use a little extra cash.

Loren Javier
The Walt Disney Company has a reputation for lobbying hard on copyright issues. The 1998 copyright extension has even been dubbed the “Mickey Mouse Protection Act” by activists like Lawrence Lessig that have worked to reform copyright laws.

This year, the company is turning to its employees to fund some of that battle. Disney CEO Bob Iger has sent a letter to the company’s employees, asking for them to open their hearts—and their wallets—to the company’s political action committee, DisneyPAC.

In the letter, which was provided to Ars by a Disney employee, Iger tells workers about his company's recent intellectual property victories, including stronger IP protections in the Trans-Pacific Partnership, a Supreme Court victory that destroyed Aereo, and continued vigilance about the "state of copyright law in the digital environment." It also mentions that Disney is seeking an opening to lower the corporate tax rate.

"With the support of the US Government we achieved a win in the Supreme Court against Aereo—an Internet service claiming the right to retransmit our broadcast signals without paying copyright or retransmission consent fees," writes Iger. "In the coming year, we expect Congress and the Administration to be active on copyright regime issues, efforts to enact legislation to approve and implement the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade agreement, tax reform, and more proposals to weaken retransmission consent, to name a few."

The source who provided the letter to Ars asked to remain anonymous, and they were bothered by the assumption that anyone who worked for Disney would agree with the company's political positions on tax, trade, intellectual property, and other matters.

"It just seems insensitive to folks that support the company but don't necessarily support all of its priorities," the source said. "Especially for something like TPP, which I view as particularly controversial. We do have a company position, but there's going to be a wide variety of opinion [within the company]."

The letter concludes with a suggested donation to DisneyPAC. Ars is not publishing the suggested amount in case it is personalized to the source's compensation or position at Disney.

"For your convenience, DisneyPAC has implemented a payroll deduction system, through which your contributions to the PAC will be deducted from your weekly paycheck," Iger explains.

The source received the letter via business mail and doesn't know how many other employees received it.

"I don't know how widely this was distributed," the source said. "Was it to rank and file folks in [theme] parks, to people working in a popcorn stand?"

Disney didn't respond to Ars' requests for comment about the fundraising letter.

Not unusual
Although Iger's letter was, in the view of this employee, somewhat tone-deaf, such requests are not illegal or even particularly uncommon. In 2012, Reuters reported on Citigroup's request to its employees to give to Citi PAC, a political entity that "contributes to candidates on both sides of the aisle that support a strong private sector and promote entrepreneurship."

US corporations are allowed to solicit political contributions as long as donations aren't coerced. The relevant law bars any "threat of a detrimental job action, the threat of any other financial reprisal, or the threat of force" when asking for donations.

The Disney letter has language explicitly reassuring employees that their jobs won't be affected by their decision whether or not to give to DisneyPAC.

"Your contribution is important to all of us, but I want to emphasize that all contributions are voluntary and have no impact on your job status, performance review, compensation, or employment," writes Iger. "Any amount given or the decision not to give will not advantage or disadvantage you."

Iger's compensation in the last fiscal year was $45 million (£32 million).

In the 2014 election cycle, the Disney employees' PAC spent about $375,000, according to OpenSecrets.org. During the current cycle with a presidential election on the way, the company will likely spend more. As of last month, the PAC had raised $295,000 and spent $231,000. The contributions are split roughly evenly between Democrats and Republicans, which is the PAC's policy according to the CEO's letter.

According to a MapLight analysis of the data, Disney employees contributed a total of $4.03 million in all election cycles since 2002. That doesn't include direct employee contributions to candidates, which adds another $1.81 million over the same period.

DisneyPAC fundraising letter to employees
Here's the verbatim text of most of Iger's letter to employees:

As we head into the election year of 2016, the electorate faces significant decisions about the direction of our Nation's future. Besides choosing a new president, we will once again be electing new senators and representatives. These decisions will have a profound impact on the lives of all Americans. The election will also impact issues that affect our company. As such, we will continue to work with our representatives in Congress to ensure that they understand our perspective on critical issues like trade, intellectual property, tax, and travel policies. I write to urge you to consider supporting the Company's efforts through a contribution to DisneyPAC. A well funded DisneyPAC is an important tool in our efforts to maintain our positive profile in Washington.

In the past year, we successfully advocated the Company's position on a number of issues that have a significant impact on our business. We played a major role in ensuring that the "Trade Promotion Authority" legislation set high standards for intellectual property (IP) provisions in our trade negotiations, and we helped get that bill through Congress. We used that language in TPA to advocate successfully for a strong IP chapter in the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) trade negotiations. We also pushed for provisions to promote digital trade and to reduce barriers in media and entertainment sectors. TPP will establish a strong baseline of protection for intellectual property while breaking down trade barriers in the Asia Pacific region. In both TPA and TPP we had to overcome significant efforts to weaken respect for IP, pushed not only by foreign governments but also from within our own Congress and the Administration.

The fight on these issues is far from over. Last year we spent significant time and effort engaged in a series of government reviews of the state of copyright law in the digital environment.

We also continued to defend our right to be compensated for carriage of our programming by cable and satellite carriers as well as by emerging "over-the-top" services. With the support of the US Government we achieved a win in the Supreme Court against Aereo—an Internet service claiming the right to retransmit our broadcast signals without paying copyright or retransmission consent fees. With respect to tax issues, Congress extended certain provisions that provide favorable tax treatment for film and television production in the US. It also extended this treatment to live theatrical productions. Last year we also worked closely with the Administration on important veterans employment issues—an issue of critical importance for the men and women who defend our country and an area in which our company is proud to play a leadership role.

In the coming year, we expect Congress and the Administration to be active on copyright regime issues, efforts to enact legislation to approve and implement the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade agreement, tax reform, and more proposals to weaken retransmission consent, to name a few.

On the trade front, we will also look to build on our achievements in other negotiations this year. 2016 should see significant activity in negotiations between the US and China over a Bilateral Investment Treaty (BIT), continued negotiations with the European Union over the proposed Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership agreement, the 50-country Trade in Services Agreement negotiations, and efforts by the US Government to raise IP standards and break down trade barriers through a variety of means.

In 2016, Congress will further discuss various tax reform proposals. While comprehensive reform is unlikely, activity in the coming year will lay the foundation for what many expect to be a genuine opportunity for reform in early 2017. We have been active educating Members of Congress on the importance of lowering the corporate tax rate to be competitive with the rest of the world. The US has one of the highest marginal and effective tax rates among developed countries, creating a significant competitive impediment to companies headquartered in the US.

Congress will continue to be very active on intellectual property issues... After three years of hearings and testimony from 100 witnesses, we now expect the House Judiciary Committee to turn to legislating. We expect significant attention on legislation to modernize the Copyright Office, a small agency that can have an enormous impact on our interests.

And the Copyright Office has launched several proceedings involving possible changes to laws governing the accountability of online services and the laws protecting technologies used to secure distribution of digital content. These discussions obviously have significant implications for a business like ours that is dependent on copyright policy in the face of ongoing change in technology and the marketplace.

We will also need to continue our work to fend off growing and concerted efforts to weaken our ability to freely negotiate the distribution of our broadcast and cable programming. Last year, the FCC teed up several rule makings that could have a significant adverse affect on retransmission consent and how we package and sell our media networks. As the debate becomes much more heated, we will need to remain vigilant.

With all of the challenges we will face this year, it is important that our PAC be strong. We, therefore, respectfully suggest that you consider making a contribution of [REDACTED]. You may give more or less than the suggested amount (although no contribution can exceed $5000 in any year) and any contribution will be appreciated. As always, 100% of your contribution is used in direct support of candidates and political entities that uphold policies and principles that are consistent with the best interests of our company. DisneyPAC contributes equally to Democrats and Republicans each calendar year. For your convenience, DisneyPAC has implemented a payroll deduction system, through which your contributions to the PAC will be deducted from your weekly paycheck. If you prefer, you may instead make a one-time personal contribution to the PAC. Your contribution is important to all of us, but I want to emphasize that all contributions are voluntary and have no impact on your job status, performance review, compensation, or employment. Any amount given or the decision not to give will not advantage or disadvantage you. You have the right to refuse to contribute without reprisal. Your help is truly appreciated.

So Disney is directly asking its employees to help the company further corrupt the American political system?
Are we sure this isn't an Onion article that got cross-posted?
 

Rteetz

Well-Known Member
Soooooooo I just took a look at both my 5K "refrigerator magnet" medal and my child's Kids Race "refrigerator magnet" medal from the 2013 WDW Marathon weekend.

There is no verbiage whatsoever that states "Participated in" on either medal. The ribbon (for mine) says "Family Fun 5K", has a picture of the Fab 5 on the front, and verbiage "Disney China" on the back. Same setup with my kids' medals (different ribbon verbiage, different picture).

Now maybe things have changed in the past three years. I am highly doubtful, however, that runDisney is going to commission and pay for two separate types of medals for these races. A "regular" medal for those who finish "fast" and a "participation" medal for those who finish back of the pack.

Now all that being said, after finishing the 2013 full, my DH overheard some lady state she walked the entire 26.2. :jawdrop: I don't know if the course sweeping is accurate or not. But if it is, this lady maintained a 16 minute/mile pace. For the entire 26.2.
I have a Walt Disney World 5K, 10K, and Half medal from 2015 and 2016 none of them say participated in. People can walk and maintain that 16 min pace. Some are even getting a little more time to finish if they are in a higher corral. The sweepers don't start walking until 16 minutes after the last person crosses the start line.
 

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