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Prince-1

Prince-1

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the.dreamfinder said:
The only reason why this film exists is so Andrew Stanton can get out of Disney director's jail after "John Carter" flopped.
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So they decided to create a WHOLE movie just to help the career of a director who had huge flop. Ummm, ok...where did YOU hear this from???

But my question was where all this bad "buzz" for Finding Dory is coming from. Two people have said that they heard that this movie is in trouble but didn't list from where they heard this so I am just trying to get some clarification. Pet peeve of mine is people posting things without providing any back-up....which is basically what the internet is for (and - nod to Avenue Q!! - look it up).
 
flyerjab

flyerjab

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BrianLo said:
Ha, I actually thought that was supposed to be USJ at first glance. I can't speak to USH, but Japan has several high rise hotels looming at one end of the park, a massive bridge looming at the other (nothing says immersion like being able to watch traffic) and they screwed up the money shot with an exposed Hogwarts show building that's far more in your face than Orlando.

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I was on theme park insider's site the other week, looking at soft opening photos of the Potter expansion at USH. When they showed Hogwarts school, I almost forgot that I was looking at the new one in USH. They perfectly recreated it there...right down to the exposed show building for the attraction.
 
GiveMeTheMusic

GiveMeTheMusic

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gsam4ever said:
So they decided to create a WHOLE movie just to help the career of a director who had huge flop. Ummm, ok...where did YOU hear this from???

But my question was where all this bad "buzz" for Finding Dory is coming from. Two people have said that they heard that this movie is in trouble but didn't list from where they heard this so I am just trying to get some clarification. Pet peeve of mine is people posting things without providing any back-up....which is basically what the internet is for (and **** - nod to Avenue Q!! - look it up).
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I never said it was in trouble, just that it's not expected to be better than WDAS' two films this year. I'm sure it will be enjoyable, and I personally hope it's fantastic, but I have some friends in both animation studios who have told me to temper my expectations. It's expected internally to make a lot of money but not be a critical darling like Toy Story 3. Again, that could be incorrect as politics sometimes plays into what rumors go around. No citable source, as such sources often aren't.
 
lazyboy97o

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gsam4ever said:
So they decided to create a WHOLE movie just to help the career of a director who had huge flop. Ummm, ok...where did YOU hear this from???
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You have it backwards. It is not Disney looking to redeem Stanton, but Stanton looking to redeem himself in Disney's eyes. And yes, because of the success of Finging Nemo, a sequel is an easy means of getting that opportunity.
 
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asianway

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GiveMeTheMusic said:
I never said it was in trouble, just that it's not expected to be better than WDAS' two films this year. I'm sure it will be enjoyable, and I personally hope it's fantastic, but I have some friends in both animation studios who have told me to temper my expectations. It's expected internally to make a lot of money but not be a critical darling like Toy Story 3. Again, that could be incorrect as politics sometimes plays into what rumors go around. No citable source, as such sources often aren't.
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People come to rumors board for inside rumors. Get angry when said rumors aren't sourced.
 
BrianLo

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doctornick said:
Inside Out truly deserves the award though, unlike the last Pixar film to win the category.
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I agree, this seems a weird year to get bent out of shape. Generally speaking the Animated film category has been fairly well represented.

Spirited Away won the second year of the category, so I feel like that gets continual props.

The only real misses in the category is that some years there simply are no stand outs. Brave really doesn't deserve to be an Oscar winner, but neither did any of the others. Films like The Secret of Kells, The Tale of Princess Kaguya and Song of the Sea probably could have taken that year.

the.dreamfinder said:
The 2017 race for Best Animated Feature looks like a Disney Pixar gang battle. They will have three big titles between the studios and that's before you include DreamWorks, BlueSky Illumination, or the independents. I don't think all three Disney titles will get nods.
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Should be a very competitive year (mostly driven by Disney-Pixar). Early Zootopia reviews are glowing.

Not sure what else really poses a major competitive threat to those three. Kubo and the Two strings looks like it could be academy fodder. The secret life of pets may be super fun, but perhaps not the deepest of films.
 
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doctornick

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BrianLo said:
The only real misses in the category is that some years there simply are no stand outs. Brave really doesn't deserve to be an Oscar winner, but neither did any of the others. Films like The Secret of Kells, The Tale of Princess Kaguya and Song of the Sea probably could have taken that year.
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Of the films that were nominated in 2012, I thought both Wreck-It Ralph and Frankenweenie were far superior to Brave. I just think that is was not a particularly good film and basically won just because of the Pixar name being attached to it. The films you mention were from other years, not 2012, so they were not in direct competition with Brave.

As an aside, looking over the list of nominees for that category, I'm surprised that Tangled wasn't even nominated that year (not that it would have won versus Toy Story 3).
 
BrianLo

BrianLo

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doctornick said:
Of the films that were nominated in 2012
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That's what I meant, those are films that ended up being overshadowed in the years they fell into. I meant if they were 2012 films. Really, Brave is the only Pixar film that won for being 'Pixar' rather than being great and Pixar.

Finding Nemo, The Incredibles, Ratatouille, Wall-E, Up, Toy Story 3 and Inside Out are all pretty stellar films. Pixar wins a lot because they tend to deserve it, I can't criticize them for that. Arguably one or two of those films should have won Best Picture Overall. But the Academy pretty much put the kibosh on that ever happening by creating the category.
 
Wikkler

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atighe42 said:
Inside Out winning over Anomalisa? Extremely debatable.
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The chain of command:
The Pixar or Disney film > The DreamWorks film > The Cutest non-Pixar, Disney, or DreamWorks film > Every other film
Out of the 15 years the Oscars have given out a best animated film award, only three have been won by a film not made by either Pixar, Disney, or DreamWorks.
Those would be Rango, Happy Feet, and Spirited Away.
I'm sorta surprised Spirited Away won over Ice Age and Lilo and Stitch considering the way the awards typically go. Happy Feet and Rango's wins aren't that surprising to me because the main competition those years were, respectively, Cars and Monster House (for being e), and Kung Fu Panda 2 and Puss in Boots (for not having Johnny "Sellout" Depp).
 
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Phil12

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Nmoody1 said:
I heard the same... internally they aren't expecting much from Finding Dory.
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I think we'll have to wait and see. After all the Academy was heavily criticized this year for the lack of diversity in their nomination process. They're going to work hard to change that and make the Academy more inclusive.

Don't be surprised if there's a category next year for Best Tropical Fish.
 
Lord_Vader

Lord_Vader

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The Empress Lilly said:
America's gone mental.

I can't believe what I just read. A corporation is asking its employees to pay them to lobby to lower corporate tax? A contribution traceable to each individual employee because it is deducted from the paycheck?

No wonder TWDC gets away with strongarming its employees into training their own foreign replacement.
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Yeah, that is not abnormal for a Fortune 500 company. Disney is not alone.
 

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