The Miscellaneous Thought Thread

[Phroobar]

Of course, we all thought this trailer looked really good too when we first saw it. We camped out for days just to see the trailer.

 

[Rich T]

Disney has killed what little interest I still had in a franchise I once loved. I wouldn't go see Ep. IX in all its steaming pile of soulless, regurgitated, committee-written corporate nonsense glory if it were the last movie on Earth.

 

[Rich T]

I like Kylo.,,killing Han and then sparing Leia, trying to do what he thinks is right.

Personally, I like characters who don't murder their fathers. I think whatever potential Jar Jar Abrams brought to Force Awakens (and I originally loved the new trio of heroes) was ignored and/or slaughtered by Last Jedi. All Abrams can hope to do now is make something that at least doesn't self-destruct in the projection room. This trilogy is complete, unadulterated gibberish. It's mind-blowing how Disney managed to not just drop the ball with this franchise, but drop the ball to the bottom of the Grand Canyon.

 

[Mac Tonight]

Personally, I like characters who don't murder their fathers. I think whatever potential Jar Jar Abrams brought to Force Awakens (and I originally loved the new trio of heroes) was ignored and/or slaughtered by Last Jedi. All Abrams can hope to do now is make something that at least doesn't self-destruct in the projection room. This trilogy is complete, unadulterated gibberish. It's mind-blowing how Disney managed to not just drop the ball with this franchise, but drop the ball to the bottom of the Grand Canyon.

 

[Rich T]

Call me crazy for not getting behind a corporate, make-it-up-as-we-go-along, each director trying to undo what the previous director did type of storytelling, but... This is the opposite of how a film trilogy is supposed to work. This is as close to computer-written randomness as any major franchise has ever come. And now it's a mess. And it will be quickly forgotten. Thank goodness.

 

[Mac Tonight]

Call me crazy for not getting behind a corporate, make-it-up-as-we-go-along, each director trying to undo what the previous director did type of storytelling, but... This is the opposite of how a film trilogy is supposed to work. This is as close to computer-written randomness as any major franchise has ever come. And now it's a mess. And it will be quickly forgotten. Thank goodness.

OK. You're crazy.

Truthfully though, I agree that they should have gone in with an overarching plan for the trilogy, and I don't exactly care for Kylo Ren in the slightest. However, I would never put them in the same abysmal trash heap pile with the animation remakes.

Also, just to be fair, I don't think Rian Johnson intentionally went into his writing with the desire to undo everything JJ (and Lucas) set up. If that were the case, he could have done WAY worse things.

 

[Phroobar]

See Tron Legacy.

 

[Mac Tonight]

See Tron Legacy.

I did. And I fell asleep during part of it.

 

[Phroobar]

I did. And I fell asleep during part of it.

Exactly.

 

[Rich T]

I really think Disney, at this point, faced with a Galaxy's Edge that doesn't resonate with the GP and countless unsold sequel toys, wishes it could start all over again with SW. And they will.
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I actually loved The Force Awakens up to the point where they entered Cantina 2.0. Then I started hating it.

 

[Phroobar]

I really think Disney, at this point, faced with a Galaxy's Edge that doesn't resonate with the GP and countless unsold sequel toys, wishes it could start all over again with SW. And they will.

They are not unsold sequel toys. They are just impossible to find at retail. The TROS figures have been out since Oct 3rd. They are not exactly warming the pegs because Target/Walmart never got them. Just try to find the 6" the Mandalorian and Fall Jedi figures.

 

[Rich T]

Just try to find the 6" the Mandalorian and Fall Jedi figures.

No thanks. Call me if one of them makes it into Smash Brothers and gets an amiibo. I'm just referring to the current SW trilogy not being the huge merchandising juggernaut Disney was hoping for-- I worded it poorly.
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"They are not exactly warming the pegs because Target/Walmart never got them." As in, didn't order them? 'Cause that's a problem.

 

[Mac Tonight]

When you see a man in his 30s in the action figure aisle you have to wonder... is he buying that for his child... or himself?

 

[Phroobar]

No thanks. Call me if one of them makes it into Smash Brothers and gets an amiibo. I'm just referring to the current SW trilogy not being the huge merchandising juggernaut Disney was hoping for-- I worded it poorly.

Under Disney's watch there really hasn't been very much merchandise to begin with. Before Disney we would get 30-50 figures per non movie year. Now we only get 10 in a movie year and good luck finding them. Disney's star wars toy merchandise distribution has been dirt poor. Retail stores don't stock their shelves with star wars toys anymore. I get my stuff online from Amazon, Entertainment Earth and Dork side toys. Even the theme park stores have very little.

 

[Rich T]

Under Disney's watch there really hasn't been very much merchandise to begin with. Before Disney we would get 30-50 figures per non movie year. Now we only get 10 in a movie year and good luck finding them. Disney's star wars toy merchandise distribution has been dirt poor. Retail stores don't stock their shelves with star wars toys anymore. I get my stuff online from Amazon, Entertainment Earth and Dork side toys. Even the theme park stores have very little.

Disney doesn't seem to know how to handle toys and videogames at all. It's almost as if they hire execs who aren't interested, don't know the characters, and never visit theme parks. But, naaah.... no company would be that clueless...

On a not-Disney's-fault note, it seems toys sales in general are declining. Phones.

 

[Rich T]

When you see a man in his 30s in the action figure aisle you have to wonder... is he buying that for his child... or himself?

If he's holding a list, looking confused, and asking for help from an employee (and mispronouncing the character's name), he's trying to buy a toy for his kid.
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If he's clawing through a peg of amiibos trying to find the one with the best paint job, it's for himself. Not ME, though! No way! (And I'm way past 30 anyway...)

 

[TROR]

The Phantom Menace is the best prequel. Time for the official, uncontested Star Wars ranking.
ROTJ > ESB > SW > TLJ > TFA > TPM >>>>>>>> ROTS > AOTC > RO >>>> S

 

[Figments Friend]

Of course, we all thought this trailer looked really good too when we first saw it. We camped out for days just to see the trailer.

I remember the press coverage of people paying to see a certain movie, JUST to see the 'Phantom Menace' trailer.
It was a crazy world in 1999.

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[Figments Friend]

When you see a man in his 30s in the action figure aisle you have to wonder... is he buying that for his child... or himself?

Probably neither.

Two words : 'eBay resale'



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[Figments Friend]

All the marketing in the world cannot turn a movie no one has any interest in into a huge hit. Sometimes peoples' instincts for a stinker really do triumph over a greedy corporation's belief that that public will eat any dish of trash that's marketed to them.

Current example - 'Maleficent 2'



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