matt_taylor1985
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I don't have a problem with paying for excessively large pushchairs but I would have a problem paying for my daughter's single umbrella stroller.
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The great "stroller" conspiracy.
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matt_taylor1985
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What a stupid, stupid statement. If i'm going for two weeks to WDW, then no I would not pay $14 a day for a stroller = $196 for two weeks. That's mental.
If it were the case I, and I'm sure alot of families would reconsider visiting. But hey ho, it'll make it better for you.
cblodg
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Stupid or not, strollers take up space that amounts to between 1.5 and 2 people. If I do the math, a single rider stroller would be paying well below the entrance ticket prices for the park. I don't think it's an outrageous charge at all, especially if you're taking up space that a person might have used.
monkeysammich
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By that logic obese people should be charged by the pound.
NewfieFan
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Ummmm, the stroller doesn't stand in a queue, ride the rides, watch shows, etc. It's a stroller not a guest!
Disney knows darn well that can't charge people for bringing their strollers in the park... they would lose the business! Disney is trying to attract young families not drive them away!!!
cblodg
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That's a different topic all together, but I see your point.
cblodg
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I'm talking about the space a person takes up on a path or section of property. This discussion has never been about the queues, though it has gone into the land of stroller parking.
And you think families wouldn't pay!? HAH! We said that when ticket prices started increasing, and guess what? They still pay! People will pay and Disney knows they will.
EpcoTim
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It's not really about me, although in some small way I guess it is. Its about fairness. People with kids, or people who feel the need to haul around a stroller full of crap, should be charged for that right. It costs more to ship a couch via UPS than it does a letter. It costs more to drive an SUV (gas), it costs more to fly when excessive or overly large luggage is brought. I don't see any issue with them charging people for taking up more space, in fact, I would applaud them if they did. Its another revenue stream, and one they can easily justify and one that will also keep the abusers from abusing.
palmage
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:ROFLOL:Maybe at the Buffet :ROFLOL:
for me its not really about if the kid should have a stroller or not, its about safety concerns for Cast members. it gits really tiring for CM (especially the older ones but luckily i am still young) to move all those 100's of strollers, by the end of the day even a small stroller seems heavy. it does not matter how much in the "green zone" you are in if the stroller is the size of a small car. also the size of stroller parking in F-land is getting out of control, we have two main stroller parking and they are usually over filled by mid day. I honestly do not think a family needs a stroller about the size of a small car for 1 kid (no matter how old he is). I have taken many broken strollers away to Lost and found at the end of the day, and some of those were ours.
matt_taylor1985
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Again, I agree that large strollers can cause an issue, but I don't for one minute think it would be fair for us (my wife, and 1 year old daughter) to pay $14 a day to 'allow' us to use our stroller in the parks.
I really don't think it would come to that anyway.
I really don't think it would come to that anyway.
well thats why I said to charge ONLY if the strollers were over a certian size limt that was disprepotional to the kid/s. If you have 1 kid your stroller can be a little bit larger then the Disney single seat stroller. if 2 kids the it can be a litlle bit lager then the Disney double seat stroller.
if your kids have any medical issues and needs a big stroller then they can get a tag that turns the stroller into a wheel chair and by pass the whole thing. and as far as SCV go if they park in handycap parking then they should get a sticker at the parking boths (were you pay to park) and only then can they rent an SCV, other wise its a wheelchair. that should at least keep the Guests who only use them for a Fastpass off of them.
marcriss
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I'm sure I'll get flamed for this but, I think the policy of stroller parking areas causes the problem. When people used to park them outside the attraction they were in you didn't have the field of strollers outside Philharmagic. They were more spread out. There are plenty of out of the way places to park a stroller that don't interfere with walking areas. But strollers left in these areas are moved into the "parking area." Maybe this is done for security reasons, but it's just my observation.
There's no way to really enforce and age or price restriction for children over a certain age. It violates medical disclosure laws. An 8 yr old who has cancer shouldn't have their medical privacy rights violated because their need for a stroller inconveniences others. And before you jump on me for the NEED, you can't know what someone needs by looking at them.
The kid in the pic looks like he could be autistic to me. He could still run around and annoy people, but he'd also be more prone to wandering off or just getting separated in a mass of people (even if it was a stroller free society).
If we're going to charge extra because of the annoyance factor, I'd move to set a minimum IQ, get a license to walk (because some people walk as bad as they drive), if we're talking about taking up space then anyone over 5'2" should have to pay more so they don't block my view of the fireworks...these are just my thoughts for making Disney "annoyance free."
And yes, I have read through all of the pages of this discussion. There is no right answer. People need to be less rude in general.
There's no way to really enforce and age or price restriction for children over a certain age. It violates medical disclosure laws. An 8 yr old who has cancer shouldn't have their medical privacy rights violated because their need for a stroller inconveniences others. And before you jump on me for the NEED, you can't know what someone needs by looking at them.
The kid in the pic looks like he could be autistic to me. He could still run around and annoy people, but he'd also be more prone to wandering off or just getting separated in a mass of people (even if it was a stroller free society).
If we're going to charge extra because of the annoyance factor, I'd move to set a minimum IQ, get a license to walk (because some people walk as bad as they drive), if we're talking about taking up space then anyone over 5'2" should have to pay more so they don't block my view of the fireworks...these are just my thoughts for making Disney "annoyance free."
And yes, I have read through all of the pages of this discussion. There is no right answer. People need to be less rude in general.
matt_taylor1985
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matt_taylor1985
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How can you look autistic?
Crazy, you don't have to actually put your point in BOLD and underlined.
but its fun :ROFLOL:
matt_taylor1985
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Touche!
What's worse is that this is about the 5th time this week that i've used the terminology touche! :brick:
jakeman
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No there is a straight up increase in strollers. Safaris used to have one area for strollers that would overflow only on the busiest days. Now they have two, both of which I have seen full on what I would consider average days (non holidays).
Interesting that you say you can't know what someone needs by looking at them and then proceed to tell us what the kid in the picture could need.
If a child needs a stroller due to a medical condition, why would you take a chance on an unfamiliar Disney stroller that may not meet your needs? Why wouldn't an 8 year old be in a wheelchair, or scooter? Seems like all but the smallest 8 years would be too big. Now everyone feel free to post that your 8 year old is Smurf size.
I agree with all your points here and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
In general yes. They also need to take more responsbility for their family and be more aware of their surroundings.
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