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Tony the Tigger

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While you're here. Big NYE plans? What does one do when not shivering to death? LOL

No big plans. Brian works at a football stadium. He'll be working Friday 10am to 2am, Saturday 10am to at least 10pm, Sunday 5am to 8pm.

If we're lucky, he will get home Saturday night in enough time for us to walk a few blocks to a local bar for a midnight toast and walk right back home to go to sleep! That's exactly what happened last year LOL. But it was nice anyway.

I just realized I've been reading your username as "Tony the Tiger" and it's really "Tony the Tigger". Whoops. :hilarious:

The latter being a play on the former!

I told the boys they either get to watch a Carrie Fisher or Debby Reynolds movie tonight. They chose the actress I chose the movie. I put in When Harry Met Sally. They are now quietly doing chores, my work for today is done:D

Have you ever seen "Mother" with Debby and Albert Brooks? I enjoy that one. Sad about both. Reminds me of a friend - her brother-in-law had a heart attack and died. His father went to the hospital, saw his son dead, and had a heart attack and died. They had a double funeral. Such a shame.

Sometimes, it's hard not to get caught up in it. Certain famous people tend to make an imprint in our minds (if we're fans of them, to begin with).

Emotions are twisted at best--emotions are not logical. I know I've mourned the deaths of certain public figures down through the years. Even though they're not family or friends of ours, grief can still be real. I know that recently I was really down about the loss of John Glenn. Did I ever meet him or know him? No. But his death affected me for a few days. I always admired him for many reasons.

Robin Williams really got to me. This year, Glenn Frey hit me hard, and of course now George Michael. Listen to him do "They Won't Go When I Go." Got me choked up.
 

A W Reezy

Well-Known Member
I'm a big fan of both so let's hope for safety for all.

@A W Reezy good to know that you are a parrothead too. Have you been to any concerts? My husband and I have gone to one a year for the first decade of our marriage. The last two years it hasn't worked out to go, but we loved tailgating and hanging out before the concert. We are hoping the dates work out this year to go to a concert within decent driving distance this summer.

Parrothead through and through! I've only been to one Jimmy Buffett concert. It was during Final Four weekend in New Orleans 2012. Talk about an amazing time! Hope you get to go this year... Fins up!!
 

Cesar R M

Well-Known Member
We're still on the road. Got about 45 minutes more.

So excited for Disneyland. My friend and I have been texting back and forth all day about the trip. I'm so excited for my double dose of Disney. :D

Meanwhile, stuff to take care of at home. Packing, laundry, resting, hair cut, making sure I have all my Disneyland documents, new battery in my one watch, all that good stuff.
eeeenvyyyyy XD
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
Hey howdy hey! It's time for brifraz's once every 3-4 months driveby posting... hope all is well with everyone.

As a veteran teacher who is married to another veteran teacher, I always need to chime in on these things... Sadly, most districts that are moving into teacher evaluation through student achievement are not doing it nearly as logically as what you have described. 3 year years of data which include student success before and after would definitely be a great way to approach things. And, I would have no problem with that. But most districts/counties around here are looking to tie salary to student achievement and success and you are spot on - that's a recipe for disaster. They are also offering bonuses to teachers willing to move to lower achieving schools in some of the same districts AND not looking at multiple year sample sizes. So, we are getting good teachers moving to struggling schools both altruistically and for $$ who then are in danger of getting fired the next year b/c of outside factors that might be the actual reason a school is struggling with test scores. Ack!

Lucky for us, my wife and I are both got into a good system that treats it's teachers with some degree of respect (on the negative side, we both took almost $10k paycuts to get that respect, but IT WAS WORTH IT). Regardless, it's 8 years until we retire to Celebration, FL. :)

It is all so frustrating. I come from decades of education in my family and my inlaw family too. Me, I took on the Board Member. My Sis along with owning her law firm is also a professor. Saying I've been immersed in education from birth is an understatement.

Teachers are as different as night and day and in it for different reasons like any profession. Even on our little forums I see the personalities that are beyond awful and to learn that type of personality is an educator, oy. Others that put their heart and soul into other people. I've said it before I hate NCLB but the one good thing I hope never goes away as it is altered is the basic skills test for educators. I was sad when everyone didn't have to sit for that when NCLB went into place. Long time to weed out the knitwits. Not a fan of Grandfathering as it leaves the broken aspects intact.

We are an extremely small school district and feed our elementary districts into a coop high school. At the elementary level being tiny it is easier to implement logic into evaluation of teachers. Our teachers are Union and a fair union most of the time anyhow. As board members the Union assigns a teacher to each of us. We are each other's ears. Mine has been my DD math teacher (she was a excellent math student so no issues) and then same since. We'd go to a restaurant, have a beer and a wine and have some good talks. He'd understand where I was coming from on any given issue and I learned some of his takes. A good man that never spoke badly of anyone, a mark of a great educator to the core. I genuinely like him as a human and an educator.

Now I've seen what you speak of. Chicago is the only school board that is appointed vs elected like we are throughout the balance of the state. A newer mayor thought he could just disregard contracts, make up labor law and do as he please. Bonus money to those who would follow his cause. Most went to court and most of it the mayor lost. Tenure is a icky system that I wholeheartedly support. I watched a former principal of ours try his best to create drama to rid himself of older tenured staff to lower his overall budget to free up monies for other things less important than educating students. Before I was on our board he managed to rid himself of two high paid teachers. It did end with that as the boards became more intune with the pattern. Why I love data. Still data can be stacked and as an unpaid member one should be objective. We have been. Still that could change with any given election.

I really don't know what the overall answers are though. Pay for success creeps me out, too many ways for administrators to stack the deck for that system. Our pensions are 75% of last 4 years of salaries. It keeps coming out of student line items. We can't afford that on end. I'm not comfortable with that, there is only so much budget monies. Nobody wants strikes and as long as I've lived here there has never been one. We have a high property tax rate for schools here. That tax rate makes our dependance on Feds and state a small fraction but still you can only go to the WELL so many times. It is system that is broken but boy I wish I was the prophet that knew how the heck to fix it. Public schools are not operated like a business, likely the downfall.
 

MinnieM123

Premium Member
Almost 140 pages behind, now.
Will still try ketchup ;) through about Jan. 2nd. After that, I might do some while recovering from surgeries, but, other than that, there's no way I'm gonna' all the way ketchup.
I sowwy. :cyclops:

We're happy whenever you join us. (It's not the quantity of @donaldtoo , it's the QUALITY of @donaldtoo !!) :happy:

Don't knock yourself out trying to do that much ketchup -- maybe go back 10, 20 pages and just pick it up from there. When are your surgeries--some point in January, I think you mentioned recently.
 

MinnieM123

Premium Member
Morning everyone! Not much snow here--less than 1/2 inch. :( There's a lot of ice out there, though, and the sanding trucks have been going up and down our street all night. I went out at 3 this morning and threw some salt down on the steps to get the melting started. I'll have hubs drive me to a train this morning to get into work. I think by mid-morning all the streets will be ice-free, but when we go out at 7 a.m., the side roads may still be icy.

At least we get out early today from work for the long weekend! YEA!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

MinnieM123

Premium Member
If we're lucky, he will get home Saturday night in enough time for us to walk a few blocks to a local bar for a midnight toast and walk right back home to go to sleep! That's exactly what happened last year LOL. But it was nice anyway.

I'm such a dud on N.Year's Eve -- I always fall asleep well before midnight. (The next morning I watch the ball drop in Times Square on the news and do the countdown -- 10, 9, 8 . . .etc. -- after the fact . . . :hilarious: ) Hubs and I are really low key about N.Year's Eve celebrations (probably because we're broke after the expenses of Christmas, etc.-- :p ). But anyway, he goes out and gets take-out Chinese food and we have a little feast at home around 6:30 p.m. What can I say? We're such dull people!! :D

I hope you and Brian have a fun N.Year's Eve -- a toast at midnight will be fine!
 
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Figgy1

Well-Known Member
Hey howdy hey! It's time for brifraz's once every 3-4 months driveby posting... hope all is well with everyone.

As a veteran teacher who is married to another veteran teacher, I always need to chime in on these things... Sadly, most districts that are moving into teacher evaluation through student achievement are not doing it nearly as logically as what you have described. 3 year years of data which include student success before and after would definitely be a great way to approach things. And, I would have no problem with that. But most districts/counties around here are looking to tie salary to student achievement and success and you are spot on - that's a recipe for disaster. They are also offering bonuses to teachers willing to move to lower achieving schools in some of the same districts AND not looking at multiple year sample sizes. So, we are getting good teachers moving to struggling schools both altruistically and for $$ who then are in danger of getting fired the next year b/c of outside factors that might be the actual reason a school is struggling with test scores. Ack!

Lucky for us, my wife and I are both got into a good system that treats it's teachers with some degree of respect (on the negative side, we both took almost $10k paycuts to get that respect, but IT WAS WORTH IT). Regardless, it's 8 years until we retire to Celebration, FL. :)
All is well and happy holidays
 

Figgy1

Well-Known Member
Safe travels home for the rest of the way. Happy to hear that you're going to Disneyland--you get around!! I've got stuff to do here at home, too, but I'm not doing any of it--ha! (And, I have 3 days off--Saturday through Monday, the holiday.) Laundry is boring, and I swear that the clothes just clone in the hamper--we can't possibly have that many dirty clothes in a week (or could we? o_O :D )
I think the boys have invented a laundry cloning machine:cautious:. I do laundry think I'm caught up, look over and another mountain appears:cautious:
 

Figgy1

Well-Known Member
Morning everyone! Not much snow here--less than 1/2 inch. :( There's a lot of ice out there, though, and the sanding trucks have been going up and down our street all night. I went out at 3 this morning and threw some salt down on the steps to get the melting started. I'll have hubs drive me to a train this morning to get into work. I think by mid-morning all the streets will be ice-free, but when we go out at 7 a.m., the side roads may still be icy.

At least we get out early today from work for the long weekend! YEA!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please be very careful out there.
 

Figgy1

Well-Known Member
The manager who I would work under has been out this week, so nothing yet. They got all of my references in (it was basically an online survey) and I believe I still have to take a logic-based personality test, but they've basically indicated that as long as everything checks out, I'll have the job. If for some reason this goes under, though, I'll keep hunting when I return.

Really hoping for this job, though. Starting salary was about what I was looking for, plus there's comissions, and the benefits are awesome. 12 days of paid time off that starts immediately, paid holidays, health insurance (though I'll still stay on my parents' plan until I turn 25), dental, vision, short and long-term disability, and a 401K. Hopefully...
Good luck I hope you get it.
 

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