The Chit Chat Chit Chat Thread

Figgy1

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@Cesar R M , I enjoyed reading about PR in in your TR. I'm unfamiliar about PR in general, and it's a lot more attractive (at least in the areas you visited), than I expected. I also love historic buildings, etc., and there were plenty for you and your mom to see there. Glad that you also had nice, sunny weather for picture taking! :)
You should try and visit there. It's a bit like Jersey as it is quite different from one location to the next. Beautiful beaches and hills, farmland and city and all in a nice somewhat compact area.
 

ajrwdwgirl

Premium Member
TRIP REPORT PROGRESS!!

SAN JUAN, PR.
This day was different than our usual, because we had booked months ago with a local extremely well recommended private tour operator. Which is pretty much a family who owns a few vans and do exclusive and private tours around San Juan. They are called "Charlie's tours".
So our expectations were high as we wanted to be 100% sure we had everything READY and ON TIME.
The ship had only 5 pitiful hours docked on San Juan. So we wanted to squeeze as much as possible by visiting most of the historical sites of OLD SAN JUAN.

We woke up fairly early this day, the ship was already getting close to San Juan and was passing thru the El Morro when we decided to take breakfast.
This time, like on Sint Maarten.. we decided to eat on the WindJammer to see the approach and the docking.
The interesting part is, there was a Carnival ship already docked, and another very big one was moving right behind the Oasis (the Carnival Magic)

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Old San Juan was truly beautiful. Tons of classic buildings, with modern ones, all with a variety of colors. Not to mention the walls and the decked ships that populated the bay.

Now something weird happened. After docking. We got ready and checked the clock and we got ready to get to the exit ( the gangway/ramp). And we waited.. and waited.. and waited.. and waited..
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We noticed that the shipcrew was not cleared to drop as well. Turns out they gave priority to the huge Carnival Magic to dock. And nobody could move until the ship was heavily tied down and their ramps lowered as well.
We waited a hefty 45 minutes.. (which the Oasis added in the end to the docking time, so we left later than expected from San Juan)
And the lines were pretty big to get down from the ship.

First, the crewstaff had to go down, prepare things outside, then the new staff came in(shift change?) then we finally were cleared to leave the ship.

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It was interesting to be right between 2 behemots..
Anyway we were finally scanned and left the ship area.. where 2 photographers and 2 handsome pair (girl and guy in "sailor suit) were taking photos. Mother definitively wanted one, which she bought later on.

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Once we got down, we followed the instructions to find the "meeting point" for the cruise guy.

Turns out the father was not available, he had to go to the USA. So his son Carlitos (Charlie Jr) was going to be our guide.
Despite his difficulty speaking spanish as he was soo used to only offer tours in english, he did a phenomenal job getting us from there and here with so little time.

We boarded his Van which also had snacks and drinks (very welcome since it was scorching hot)

And then he told us to drop a few blocks away, where he needed to park.
Then we went walking to start the tour of old San Juan. by Walking in the Paseo de la Princesa.
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The whole area was very clean and well maintained.. It was definitively a beautiful town.
Note that the building on the left.. was used to be a jail, maintained outside the reinforced san juan walls.
Now its the tourism company.
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Our Tour essentially started near the fountain. Which featured the 2 flags of PR and USA.

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There was hardly people nearby so the whole thing was even more peaceful.
Big win for me, so I could understand better what he was explaining about the tour. The story, the walls, the wars, the doors..etc..

There was some restoration going on as well. By cleaning the walls and leaving in their color and state they should have been during their prime.
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The fortifications were indeed impressive. Surrounding the entire old San Juan except for the area facing the docks, which had most of the walls destroyed to let the city expand. Because old Castillo San Cristobal pretty much covered the entire town with huge fortifications, canon and artillery areas, as well as many "onlooking" towers(garitas) for spotters.

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There was some newer sculptures on the way as well. But we had no idea what these were for other than "ART"
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What was most impressive was the old trees AND these monstrous walls.. no seriously.. these walls were like.. from 6 to 10 meters wide.. It required 2 double doors of heavy reinforced wood to let people enter the town (there were more than 6 doors, now only one remains for historical purposes).

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This tree supposedly has more than 100 years. Maybe more, didnt hear very well.

And the famous last remaining reinforced double door.
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"Puerta de San Juan"

Note the huge curved room.. that is the "width" of the monstrous wall that the spanish built to defend San Juan.
Supposedly some of these doors are still the original dating back to the final years of the spanish ownership.

This is very close to the "La fortaleza" castle and now government building.

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Once inside, you could instantly notice the old cobblestone. Most of it dating from the Spanish era as well. Most of the rocks and cobblestone is severely damaged. Our guide told us its mostly because of the cars.

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There were tons of cats roaming around as well. Probably good to kill vermin in this area.

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My mother of course, wanted to see some of the main churches of the area.
Unfortunately for her, it was still too early and it was closed.
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Interesting rules about the buildings in San Juan. You are NOT allowed to have your house painted of the same color as any of your neighbors.. You must follow certain guidelines or face fines up to 300 USD a DAY. This is to prevent any disruption in the tone and style of San Juan.

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This old Convento was transformed into a luxury hotel and restaurant.
It was very pretty, reminds me of these spanish conventos that were transformed into hotels in the city of Puebla in Mexico.


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There were also plenty of sculptures in these small plazas.


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Facing "La Fortaleza".
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And one of the most hilarious stories..

a Rich spoiled man, lost control of his horses AND carriage.. as they ran at max speed towards the abyss.. supposedly the horses got loose and the carriage barely managed to stop by the precipice.
The man built this chapel with the name of "the miracle". or "Capilla del Santo Cristo de la Salud (saint Christ of health)
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There was a small park on the right of this chapel,full of very violent and hungry doves.
He told us that the birds can even attack you to get food (including perching and poking your face and hair). Which I witnessed (lots of doves attacking the shoes of a tourist lol). It was a goofy scene that would merit a space in the movie BIRDS.


After this spot, we turned left. This area had excellent view of the bay. and as well another interesting story.
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(ps,god bless our hats.. the sun was burning!)

Anyway the story..
There were 2 houses next to each other, with a small separation between them.
A homeless man took claim of that space and built one of the smallest houses in the world.
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The house currently is close for renovations and they claim it will be a museum. The house has 3 floors and only has like.. 1 meter of width but with a lot of depth and height.

There was some buildings with very nice details..
including this one, which was supposedly one of the best restaurants of old San Juan.
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Now have a Monstrous Panorama!

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Note the remnants of the Walls still visible and holding steady.
This one has a well maintained garita.
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Then it was time to return to the car. Because we were going to get to CASTILLO SAN CRISTOBAL.

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The way down was very pleasant, again more fountains, sculptures and old fort walls.



Some random Photos of the same area:

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Tune in for Part 2!

Lit looks so nice there, and so much history. I'm adding it to the travel list.
 

ajrwdwgirl

Premium Member
Did your husband hear what happened today???? :jawdrop::jawdrop::jawdrop::jawdrop::jawdrop::jawdrop::jawdrop:

The direct descendant of the goat, (the curse of the Billy Goat) came to visit WGN Radio Studio's at Tribune Towers in Chicago as an invited guest with owner of the famous Billy Goat Tavern. I'm sure your hubby knows the Curse story. Well The Tribune Towers were sold recently but WGN still broadcasts from there but security stopped the goat from entering (sound very very familiar???) Calls were made but no luck. They did the interview outdoors but everyone is freak'n cause it is a deja vu moment with the curse of the goat. Now everyone is trying to discuss with new owners to reconsider letting the goat in to bring good karma again. Been an interesting afternoon listening to the goat karma.

He didn't mention anything, but maybe that's why they lost last night.
 

MOXOMUMD

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Thank you. Both my grandmothers crocheted, sewed, knitted and embroidered so I learned most of that from them except for quilting. We had a friend of the family who was an amazing quilter, I'm the only one who quilts:( My James does some plastic canvas projects when he has the time. As for general crafting I was very lucky in grammar school I had an art teacher who introduced us to many different crafts.
My mom's best friend makes blue jean quilts. They are so nice to have on the bed during winter. (My daughter just got one for her birthday that has a row of pockets going down the middle and cat fleece on the side opposite the jean.) During spring and summer she goes to every rummage sale she can to get jeans and thrift stores the rest of the year. Then she makes them for the holidays or special orders the rest of the time. I have a king quilt and that took a lot of jeans!
 

Goofyernmost

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Heck, it's a balmy 36 degrees here! No heat needed. Is your temperature down to zero, perhaps?
Listen, I don't mind if you enjoy freezing your buttocks off, but, please contain the cold air in your part of the world. I don't want it. It was 47 degrees here this morning. No, No that is all wrong. It was hot and then a big wind blew up from the south, of all places, and now all of a sudden it's winter. (at least what we call winter) So please if you must enjoy cold air do not feel compelled to share it. I don't want to be selfish so I am OK with cold air in your immediate vicinity, but keep it there.
 

betty rose

Well-Known Member
Guess that is what I love about Pups. They are unconditional. Some humans are very harsh about how they view appearances and not just not Pups. I continue to be stunned by what comes out of peoples mouths. Don't get it.

Now Walt was a good Judge of Character. : ) Still really miss him.

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I miss your stories about Walt too. @MinnieM123, has funny stories about Jack too.
 

betty rose

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Thank you. Both my grandmothers crocheted, sewed, knitted and embroidered so I learned most of that from them except for quilting. We had a friend of the family who was an amazing quilter, I'm the only one who quilts:( My James does some plastic canvas projects when he has the time. As for general crafting I was very lucky in grammar school I had an art teacher who introduced us to many different crafts.
We learned how to make an ash tray. Times, have certainly changed.
 

Figgy1

Well-Known Member
My mom's best friend makes blue jean quilts. They are so nice to have on the bed during winter. (My daughter just got one for her birthday that has a row of pockets going down the middle and cat fleece on the side opposite the jean.) During spring and summer she goes to every rummage sale she can to get jeans and thrift stores the rest of the year. Then she makes them for the holidays or special orders the rest of the time. I have a king quilt and that took a lot of jeans!
Both my boys have a quilt made from their old jeans. My current stack of denim will get turned into pot holders and reusable shopping bags as soon as I get Christmas projects done.
 

Figgy1

Well-Known Member
Listen, I don't mind if you enjoy freezing your buttocks off, but, please contain the cold air in your part of the world. I don't want it. It was 47 degrees here this morning. No, No that is all wrong. It was hot and then a big wind blew up from the south, of all places, and now all of a sudden it's winter. (at least what we call winter) So please if you must enjoy cold air do not feel compelled to share it. I don't want to be selfish so I am OK with cold air in your immediate vicinity, but keep it there.
My thoughts exactly, maybe we can chip in for a giant fan and send her all our way too cold air.
 

StarWarsGirl

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In the Parks
No
In case anyone was interested, this is a satellite image of Disney's Hilton Head Island post-hurricane


Good news is that the pier and the marina are both intact, as is the bridge leading to the resort, and you can see the pool, indicating that the resort is not completely flooded, though the outer areas look like they might be flooded slightly. Also no trees down on the main building. Harder to tell with the other buildings.
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Considering this was the damage in other areas...
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That is VERY fortunate
 

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Cesar R M

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Tomatoes and peppers, lots of peppers(bell and 2 types of hot) because I'm not sure how much longer they will be in season, eggplant and lots of that for the same reason, arugala, dandelion greens, beets, green and yellow squash(surprised it's still holding on), 10 very large butternut squash for $10, a couple of pears, yellow beans, carrots, potatoes,onions and a 1/2 bushel each of Crispin and Jonah Gold apples. guess what I'm doing today. i also got a nice surprise at the fabric store fleece was on an even better sale than I thought it was and my coupons were for 20% off sale price guess I'll be prewashing all of that today. We had lots of fun and James was very helpful picking apples, M not so much, he's not a fan:cautious:
You know, if I ever move out of my country. This is something im going to miss.
Being able to find cheap fruits, veggies and other stuff 24/7/365
 

Cesar R M

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@Cesar R M , I enjoyed reading about PR in in your TR. I'm unfamiliar about PR in general, and it's a lot more attractive (at least in the areas you visited), than I expected. I also love historic buildings, etc., and there were plenty for you and your mom to see there. Glad that you also had nice, sunny weather for picture taking! :)
indeed.. And the tour operator said we only scratched a tiny bit of San Juan.
There was way too much to see. Sadly, we only had 5 hours.. CURSE YOU RCCL!!
 

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