The Chit Chat Chit Chat Thread

[StarWarsGirl]

I may be disagreed with here, but, in my mind the term "unpaid internship" is a fancy rich white business name for slave labor. I find it abhorring that anyone would even consider it. Even unpaid, the intern does help out in many ways that otherwise the business has to pay someone else to do. Even minimum wage is less repulsive to me then to have generated a mindset that I will expose you to business, but, you will do it here for free. Yet, everything that you do will in some way or the other help make me richer. I find it immoral and wrong on so many levels I cannot even spell them all out.

Even done as a "fast-track" situation, it is still a disservice. Fast-tracking can be done while paying something to the person that is putting in the effort and the time and still has to survive. Sorry, I just find it terribly wrong and just another totally greed related move on businesses. If they don't hold up their end, then you do what will happen once in the work force anyway, you send them down the road. They will learn quickly to put effort in it because then they have something to lose. Remember the now famous phrase that we here so often today... When they pay me more, I will give them more effort? What do you really get for free. And if someone doesn't measure up to the standards required to get paid, then you have not only wasted their time, but, yours as well.

You and Yours, is a generic term in this post and not directed at anyone personally.

In an ideal world, yes, we would all do paid internships, and we would all get experience, and we would be extremely happy. But we don't live in an ideal world. We live in a world where entry level positions require experiences. Heck, I interviewed for a paid internship over the summer, and the interviewer was asking about my previous experience. I'm thinking, I have no experience, that's why I'm coming to you. When you're living that environment, you do whatever it takes to get experience, regardless of whether or not you're getting paid. If that means you work part time in the summer and do an internship in your field part time, then you do that (and I know quite a few people who do that).

I think what my company does is pretty decent. They pay the candidates they really want, but still allow ones who they might not necessarily hire but who are, for whatever reason, desperate for experience, to work as unpaid interns. Instead of just telling them no when they might need the internship for school or because they have no experience and the only job they can get is flipping burgers. Sad reality, but it is our reality.

 

[StarWarsGirl]

Hi, I'm new to theses forums! This site help me planned my next trip to Disney world in few months wanted to say thanks! I'm going in February 13th-17th 5-days. I want to enjoy my 30th B-day in few months at Disney! And yes I have receive my Booklet to Disney Resorts/Springs,Parks and soon I be getting my Wristbands in January or Start planning in December. I am looking forward to it! Last time I went was back in 2015 to 1 park for a day, that made me wanted go back even more!!

Welcome.

We're all nice here. And pretty normal. Except @Mr Ferret 88 .

 

[Figgy1]

Welcome.

We're all nice here. And pretty normal. Except @Mr Ferret 88 .

If @Mr Ferret 88 gets out of line just put him back in his cage.

 

[Wrangler-Rick]

It's baaack. A week of...

http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/a-week-of.883271/page-11#post-7420244

Why did I not know of this thread sooner??!!

 

[MOXOMUMD]

I want some lasagna too please!

Me too!

 

[Figgy1]

Me too!

All this lasagna talk has me thinking i should make one this weekend

 

[disneySimple2016]

Welcome and have a great trip. Are you going to post a trip report about your last trip?

Yep, I can.
All I did last year, I went to Main Park Magic Kingdom for a Day, what I did there, I saw and chance get on theses rides, shows. I saw the
1. Mickey's PhilharMagic - Entertainment to see! When Summer Rain came in.
2. Jungle Cruise - Very Relaxing
3. Stitch's Great Escape! [Dark Ride] - Now in Season Operation, Not to bad of a Ride, going to be miss.
4. it's a small world [Of course mostly the same, since I was a Kid, or little adjustments to details.]
Pirates of the Caribbean [Was under Refurbishments In June 2015 - Next time it will be open ]
Walt Disney World's Pirates of the Caribbean ride to close May 11 through Sept. 25, 2015 / Will Revisit
5. Haunted Mansion - One of my Favorites!
6. Tomorrowland Transit Authority PeopleMover [Slow Ride, always fun even it rains!]
7. Walt Disney's Carousel of Progress
And the shows,

8. The Dapper Dans
9. Wishes nighttime spectacular
10. And of course I got to see for Last Time before this went away so sad, main-street-electrical-parade, going to be miss! Favorite Child Hood Memories.main-street-electrical-parade
11. move-it-shake-it-dance-play-it
12. Mickey's Royal Friendship Faire

Not bad for 1-day Park Ticket, I did allot in June 2015!

I Want to try, Space Mountain and others that I miss. And I be at the other Parks for new things!

And thanks for making me feel welcome on this website!

 

[Figgy1]

Yep, I can.
All I did last year, I went to Main Park Magic Kingdom for a Day, what I did there, I saw and chance get on theses rides, shows. I saw the
1. Mickey's PhilharMagic - Entertainment to see! When Summer Rain came in.
2. Jungle Cruise - Very Relaxing
3. Stitch's Great Escape! [Dark Ride] - Now in Season Operation, Not to bad of a Ride, going to be miss.
4. it's a small world [Of course mostly the same, since I was a Kid, or little adjustments to details.]
Pirates of the Caribbean [Was under Refurbishments In June 2015 - Next time it will be open ]
Walt Disney World's Pirates of the Caribbean ride to close May 11 through Sept. 25, 2015 / Will Revisit
5. Haunted Mansion - One of my Favorites!
6. Tomorrowland Transit Authority PeopleMover [Slow Ride, always fun even it rains!]
7. Walt Disney's Carousel of Progress
And the shows,

8. The Dapper Dans
9. Wishes nighttime spectacular
10. And of course I got to see for Last Time before this went away so sad, main-street-electrical-parade, going to be miss! Favorite Child Hood Memories.main-street-electrical-parade
11. move-it-shake-it-dance-play-it
12. Mickey's Royal Friendship Faire

Not bad for 1-day Park Ticket, I did allot in June 2015!

I Want to try, Space Mountain and others that I miss. And I be at the other Parks for new things!

And thanks for making me feel welcome on this website!

You're welcome

 

[Goofyernmost]

In an ideal world, yes, we would all do paid internships, and we would all get experience, and we would be extremely happy. But we don't live in an ideal world. We live in a world where entry level positions require experiences. Heck, I interviewed for a paid internship over the summer, and the interviewer was asking about my previous experience. I'm thinking, I have no experience, that's why I'm coming to you. When you're living that environment, you do whatever it takes to get experience, regardless of whether or not you're getting paid. If that means you work part time in the summer and do an internship in your field part time, then you do that (and I know quite a few people who do that).

I think what my company does is pretty decent. They pay the candidates they really want, but still allow ones who they might not necessarily hire but who are, for whatever reason, desperate for experience, to work as unpaid interns. Instead of just telling them no when they might need the internship for school or because they have no experience and the only job they can get is flipping burgers. Sad reality, but it is our reality.

That particular problem has always been there and I can assure you the the number of internships that existed in my time, be they paid or unpaid, were few and far between and most of them were done as a college credit, if money was not paid. Most of them were for highly specialized professional positions, like, Lawyers, etc. That is a little different then taking people off the boat that need to support themselves and, saying you can get experience here, but, we are not going to pay you, but, we are going to work you like we are paying you. This all over the place internship is a relatively modern concept, probably taking deep roots with the Donald's, reality (yea, right) show.

We all faced that. I know I did and almost everyone I knew did as well, yet, somehow we managed to get experience and we weren't completely exploited to get it. We just had to lower the bar, temporarily and do work that wasn't really what we were aiming for. We aimed a little lower and started to climb our way up, all the while, earning money. Something that we should all be able to agree is necessary to support ourselves even if not in the lifestyle that we eventually hope to be at.

 

[MOXOMUMD]

That looks like the cruise ship that was here yesterday

Carnival does have many ships. In the picture it's at Curacao, my favorite Caribbean island.

 

[MOXOMUMD]

I'm sure I got the spelling wrong it's a bit spicy and a bit sweet. We got it at the farm market from a local vendor who has some rather interesting spices.

That's correct. It's the spice that gives red rice (like red rice and beans) its color.

 

[StarWarsGirl]

We all faced that. I know I did and almost everyone I knew did as well, yet, somehow we managed to get experience and we weren't completely exploited to get it.

And you lived in a very different world that we do.

 

[Cesar R M]

Me likey!

 

[Cesar R M]

And you lived in a very different world that we do.

Sad its the reality we have to live now.

I still remember how many graphic design and artists are abused nowadays. They are told they will get paid then the company tries to claim they are going to pay the artist in "free advertisement".

 

[Goofyernmost]

And you lived in a very different world that we do.

Yup, one that knew the purpose of labor laws to prevent exploitation by unscrupulous people. I'll stick with the old world, because it will still work. Changing the name does not change what it requires people to endure so someone else can get wealthy. BTW, I still live in this world, I've seen the difference and I am not going to just accept things because someone says that it's the way it should be now. What was wrong back then is still wrong. Anyway, we have spent way to much time on this topic. I have expressed my opinion and others have expressed theirs and none of us individually are able to alter things.

Again, unpaid interning as part of a college program or even a high school educational program is completely different then taking advantage of desperation of people feeling that they cannot get in without this type of activity. It is using people to help them make a profit with no guarantee's that the persons doing the labor are ever going to benefit from it. Even if they were, their time and efforts are worth something since our society is based on being able to support itself by earning a living.

 

[Cesar R M]

In something completely different.. its NAP TIME!!!

 

[StarWarsGirl]

Again, unpaid interning as part of a college program or even a high school educational program is completely different then taking advantage of desperation of people feeling that they cannot get in without this type of activity.

And there we have the kicker. So many colleges require internships, and there simply aren't enough paid ones to go around. Even my company can only afford so many paid interns. Initially, I did one just for experience during sophomore year of college since I had no experience and couldn't even get a part time job at Pizza Hut. Then I had to complete one for my honors program, so I did the unpaid one over the summer. Could not get a paid internship, I had one interview and quickly found out that they already wanted me to have experience, and my experience is HR, not sales. It was like I had to get experience before I could get experience. Some of the other majors require them for seniors as a capstone to their degree program. I must say, it's worked out very well, and I don't regret doing it for one second. Led to this job. I'm looking at another job for after I graduate (entry level), and career services at school told me that I'm over qualified. As long as companies are upfront about the internships being unpaid, it's really up to the student whether or not to accept, but if you need professional experience...well, it's worth consideration.

 

[MOXOMUMD]

 

[MinnieM123]

I have no clue. It's on every channel and very sad. I called somebody I know who works near by and it was heard from several blocks away. The whole area is jammed up. The traffic there is as bad if not worse than mid town Manhattan to start with. Nobody can get in or out of the area except for emergency vehicles

It was really bad, and there are so many questions about what happened. I watched some of the news conference today with Chris Christie and Gov. Cuomo (one of the people in our office had the news conf. on the computer, and a bunch of us gathered around).

Aside of the injured, I feel awful for all those people--thousands of them--who will have a nightmare commute with no trains. Thank goodness that at least the PATH is still running, as that will help alleviate some of the commuting congestion. But most of the commuter rail passengers will have to make their way to buses, which will be absolutely horrendous, because you know there's no way they can come up with enough buses for all those people.

 

[Goofyernmost]

In an ideal world, yes, we would all do paid internships, and we would all get experience, and we would be extremely happy. But we don't live in an ideal world. We live in a world where entry level positions require experiences. Heck, I interviewed for a paid internship over the summer, and the interviewer was asking about my previous experience. I'm thinking, I have no experience, that's why I'm coming to you. When you're living that environment, you do whatever it takes to get experience, regardless of whether or not you're getting paid. If that means you work part time in the summer and do an internship in your field part time, then you do that (and I know quite a few people who do that).

I think what my company does is pretty decent. They pay the candidates they really want, but still allow ones who they might not necessarily hire but who are, for whatever reason, desperate for experience, to work as unpaid interns. Instead of just telling them no when they might need the internship for school or because they have no experience and the only job they can get is flipping burgers. Sad reality, but it is our reality.

I'm going to stop talking about this because I am so much against any unpaid internship except in conjunction with an educational program, which I have already stated is legitimate and is really just an extension of class work. As far as not enough paid interns to go around then those that are getting paid as interns or, god forbid, regular employees, need to step up and if the company cannot afford to pay someone minimum wage (at least) then they have to go without.

I know this sounds a bit over the top, but, to me it's almost the same thing as saying we can't afford to pay anyone to pick the cotton so lets run over to Africa and see if we can come up with a group of black folk to work the fields.