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betty rose

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I'm not criticizing your reasons, just that it would be a cold day in heck (trying to be PC) before I would let anyone, family or not, control my actions. I don't care who they think they are. My sister tried that Matriarch trip on everyone. It was ridiculous, because I am the oldest so if there were to be any "arch" it would be a Patriarch (me). To me it would be much more tiring to always be walking on eggs because of one non-justifiable persons opinion of power. But, whatever works for your dynamic. I do understand because I had a wife that required very careful egg walking for many years. Probably that is why I have an adversity to it.
I wish I had your strength with the family. She, (sister), has called me ugly, stupid, and a scaredy cat my whole life. She was 2/1/2 years older than me. My parents told me to respect her as she was older. I have walked on eggs for many things in my
life, parent's favorite saying was respect your elder's, and speak nothing against them. You have probably caught on to that ;
being the youngest, I had to be silent. I endured unspeakable things in my life, as I was afraid to speak out. Yes, that was wrong, but when you are brought up in a judgmental religion, you don't know any better, especially when you are isolated from other people in your formative years. College virtually saved me. I went to I U. A very liberal college, let's just say my eye's were opened to another world. My Mom hated the person I became, at college. She couldn't control me anymore. But sister has taken her place. I'm too tired to fight anymore. I endure, and move on. Disney has been my and hubby's sanctuary/ He was very abused by his father...hit in the face with a hammer etc. His father had 43 jobs over his life for hitting his bosses. He didn't speak to me, and our 2 year old daughter for me telling him he was abusive. I then said I don't care if you don't speak to me, but I will not let you abuse his 2 year old grand daughter. Hubby and I left and said we wouldn't ever come back to see them. When he died, we were best friends with his mother. We had great times together. She was a nicer mother to me than I have ever had. I still say a prayer on her birthday. She was very abused physically in her life. That was a time when women had no rights. We came to love and understand each other. Her husband tried to control her and me and daughter, and my hubby with abuse. I stopped his actions, by saying he couldn't control me or daughter, and hubby stood up, as he was beat up from his father from the time he was about 2. We left their house, and didn't return until we got a phone call from hubby's Mom. She said his dad wanted to set things straight. His father chickened out, and didn't apologize for his abuse to our family. We flew from K.C. to set things straight. We went out with hubby's mother, she was a kind and caring lady, I loved her dearly. I never forget her birthday, groundhog day, and say happy birthday to her. Things work out, sometimes with stress. I'm sure we have our stories. This is just one of ours. Thanks for listening.
 

Goofyernmost

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@betty rose, I understand, but, I still can't figure out why you would want to be around that person ever. Write them all off and enjoy the rest of your life. That is really just another form of abuse, cut the cord. I know that is easier said then done, but, really there is no reason to feel guilt, you are the victim not them. Let them feel guilty for a change. And if they don't... you have lost nothing.
 

ajrwdwgirl

Premium Member
I wish I had your strength with the family. She, (sister), has called me ugly, stupid, and a scaredy cat my whole life. She was 2/1/2 years older than me. My parents told me to respect her as she was older. I have walked on eggs for many things in my
life, parent's favorite saying was respect your elder's, and speak nothing against them. You have probably caught on to that ;
being the youngest, I had to be silent. I endured unspeakable things in my life, as I was afraid to speak out. Yes, that was wrong, but when you are brought up in a judgmental religion, you don't know any better, especially when you are isolated from other people in your formative years. College virtually saved me. I went to I U. A very liberal college, let's just say my eye's were opened to another world. My Mom hated the person I became, at college. She couldn't control me anymore. But sister has taken her place. I'm too tired to fight anymore. I endure, and move on. Disney has been my and hubby's sanctuary/ He was very abused by his father...hit in the face with a hammer etc. His father had 43 jobs over his life for hitting his bosses. He didn't speak to me, and our 2 year old daughter for me telling him he was abusive. I then said I don't care if you don't speak to me, but I will not let you abuse his 2 year old grand daughter. Hubby and I left and said we wouldn't ever come back to see them. When he died, we were best friends with his mother. We had great times together. She was a nicer mother to me than I have ever had. I still say a prayer on her birthday. She was very abused physically in her life. That was a time when women had no rights. We came to love and understand each other. Her husband tried to control her and me and daughter, and my hubby with abuse. I stopped his actions, by saying he couldn't control me or daughter, and hubby stood up, as he was beat up from his father from the time he was about 2. We left their house, and didn't return until we got a phone call from hubby's Mom. She said his dad wanted to set things straight. His father chickened out, and didn't apologize for his abuse to our family. We flew from K.C. to set things straight. We went out with hubby's mother, she was a kind and caring lady, I loved her dearly. I never forget her birthday, groundhog day, and say happy birthday to her. Things work out, sometimes with stress. I'm sure we have our stories. This is just one of ours. Thanks for listening.

I'm sorry you and your hubby had to go through such abuse in your life. It is great that you stood up for your family, abuse is never acceptable. It sounds like your sister is no piece of cake either. And she really isn't that much of an elder for you. Anyway, you seem like such a nice person and you need to do what is right for you.
 

betty rose

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@betty rose, I understand, but, I still can't figure out why you would want to be around that person ever. Write them all off and enjoy the rest of your life. That is really just another form of abuse, cut the cord. I know that is easier said then done, but, really there is no reason to feel guilt, you are the victim not them. Let them feel guilty for a change. And if they don't... you have lost nothing.
Thanks for your advice. She is the last in my family, it's very hard. Hubby has said I should have stopped talking to her long ago...I will stop taking her bullying calls, and tell her we aren't available to see her. Life can be hard, when you follow parent's instructions when they are gone. I have had bad luck in my life, I went to an interview for a job, and the person that interviewed me . Took me back to my "office" and started to trap me, and do unspeakable things. I ran out so afraid. Shortly after, I got a job in Indy. and had to walk to the job, a guy tried to steal my purse, we were very poor at the time. I turned quickly and knocked him over and ran away with my purse. Then , when my brother died, I remembered bad things he did when he was 12 years older than me. I never had a safe home. Walking to school, when I was 6, we had a pedophile two doors down, I won't say what happened one day to school. Some how I have been the very bad girl. And got what I deserved growing up. My parent's religion said that. When my favorite uncle died when I was 6, I felt responsible.
 

ajrwdwgirl

Premium Member
Thanks for your advice. She is the last in my family, it's very hard. Hubby has said I should have stopped talking to her long ago...I will stop taking her bullying calls, and tell her we aren't available to see her. Life can be hard, when you follow parent's instructions when they are gone. I have had bad luck in my life, I went to an interview for a job, and the person that interviewed me . Took me back to my "office" and started to trap me, and do unspeakable things. I ran out so afraid. Shortly after, I got a job in Indy. and had to walk to the job, a guy tried to steal my purse, we were very poor at the time. I turned quickly and knocked him over and ran away with my purse. Then , when my brother died, I remembered bad things he did when he was 12 years older than me. I never had a safe home. Walking to school, when I was 6, we had a pedophile two doors down, I won't say what happened one day to school. Some how I have been the very bad girl. And got what I deserved growing up. My parent's religion said that. When my favorite uncle died when I was 6, I felt responsible.

I am so glad that you found your hubby, and have a loving and safe environment now.
 

betty rose

Well-Known Member
Too funny!!!!!
We were told the EXACT same thing...!!! :hilarious:
We ate so much watermelon over the years on both sets of grandparents farms. Definitely
fresh, because they came from their own gardens...!
Wether or not it was chilled in the fridge first or fresh right from the garden, we didn't care...soooooo good...!!!!! :hungry:
Yup, those days were the best. We listened to "june bugs", and ate watermelon. The June bugs, were circadian's. Great times!
 

Cesar R M

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By the way, the guys at David's DVC.. posted a new image of the Grand Floridian.
They are adding barriers and warnings in the "beaches" around the lake.
From nothing to overreaction? or do you think Disney is being smart now because they know some guests can be freaking stupid (like feeding the gators from the Polynesian huts)
 

betty rose

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I'm sorry you and your hubby had to go through such abuse in your life. It is great that you stood up for your family, abuse is never acceptable. It sounds like your sister is no piece of cake either. And she really isn't that much of an elder for you. Anyway, you seem like such a nice person and you need to do what is right for you.
I'm doing good, I never call my sister anymore. I did, every week after my Mother died. But, it was never nice, we took her and her hubby on a cruise to try to change things. Yes, hubby and I paid for it, actually out of my inheritance, she was nice until the cruise was over. We took them, everything paid for them to Disney for a week. She was nice then. But, after a couple weeks , when we returned, she was back to her old self. We have done nothing since. And they say, you can't teach an old dog new tricks!;)
 

betty rose

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@betty rose, I understand, but, I still can't figure out why you would want to be around that person ever. Write them all off and enjoy the rest of your life. That is really just another form of abuse, cut the cord. I know that is easier said then done, but, really there is no reason to feel guilt, you are the victim not them. Let them feel guilty for a change. And if they don't... you have lost nothing.
Agree, I never call sister.
 

betty rose

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I am so glad that you found your hubby, and have a loving and safe environment now.
We do, and are both grateful every day. I still can't make myself go into a church, that preached that my uncle died because we didn't have enough faith. He was the kindest sweetest soft spoken man I ever had the pleasure to be around. He died when I was six, and I was devastated. I never went to his funeral. Mom thought I was too young. I though it was because, somehow I was a very bad person. And got punishment from God, with all the things that happened in my life. I have found peace with my family, and daughter's family. We have love and fun together. Sunday for father's day we are playing indoor golf, as it's going to be very hot. Take an afternoon nap, and all have dinner together, at a steak house, the guys picked that. I'm good, I love salad and their warm yeast rolls, plus salad. It's a win, win for all of us!
 
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betty rose

Well-Known Member
By the way, the guys at David's DVC.. posted a new image of the Grand Floridian.
They are adding barriers and warnings in the "beaches" around the lake.
From nothing to overreaction? or do you think Disney is being smart now because they know some guests can be freaking stupid (like feeding the gators from the Polynesian huts)
I need to look at the pictures. I thought information or a sign about alligator's would be the right thing to do. Barrier's , well I need to see them. They don't make sense, as alligator's can be in a golf course, or between buildings, as my sis and brother in law saw one. I hope they warn about snakes too. I just don't think people will care or read the signs. At most, it lessens Disney's responsibility. Maybe Disney should build a barrier over everything, lol.;)
 

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